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Breakthrough Mushroom Trip

cowboycurtis

cowboycurtis

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I'm somewhat experienced with both mushrooms themselves (somewhere around 20 times) and other psychedelics, however, I usually take lower doses (eighth or less). I would like to have a breakthrough experience and would like advice as to how much one should take, based on repliers' personal experiences.

I think this is NOT against the rules, though I apologize if it is.
 
WELCOME TO BLUELIGHT! Thank-god you are the only newb who don't use that dumb SWIM bullshit.

Take a bump of K on an ordinary dose, or two bumps depending on your tolerance and you'll most likely have a breakthrough ^-^

And if just on shrooms?
I'd say double your ordinary dose, so maybe a little less than 7Gs or a Quarter. I could be wrong tho, someone with more shroomey knowledge will be in soon lol.
 
i would definitely recommend going only to 5g after and eighth at the most. the dose-response curve, as with many other psychoactive agents, is not linear. meaning, 7g is not double the effect, but generally exponentially higher. to take the trip up a step i would definitely suggest 5 before jumping to a quarter...the breakthrough could be right around the corner, no need to skip steps on the journey to the top :)

but really each strain varies in potency pretty decently from my experience. there are mushrooms which seem to be 1.5x more potent than an 'avg cubensis'. and they can't really be differentiated by look alone, some mushrooms acquired can fuckin blow you away at an eighth dosage. perhaps the sources you've had haven't been the strongest. just an idea to keep in mind.

but yeah, if you're fairly resistant, which is a possibility, it could take a quarter or more to give you the breakthrough you're seeking. but i'm willing to bet that 5g will get you there if you're used to an eighth...it seems like double the intensity at least to me, in terms of my subjective analysis of the dose-response curve i experience.
 
Yeah, if I could find some K. Probably not gonna see that any time soon, but I would love to try it. K-holing sounds pretty gnarly.
 
thoughtsUnThought said:
i would definitely recommend going only to 5g after and eighth at the most. the dose-response curve, as with many other psychoactive agents, is not linear. meaning, 7g is not double the effect, but generally exponentially higher. to take the trip up a step i would definitely suggest 5 before jumping to a quarter...the breakthrough could be right around the corner, no need to skip steps on the journey to the top :)

but really each strain varies in potency pretty decently from my experience. there are mushrooms which seem to be 1.5x more potent than an 'avg cubensis'. and they can't really be differentiated by look alone, some mushrooms acquired can fuckin blow you away at an eighth dosage. perhaps the sources you've had haven't been the strongest. just an idea to keep in mind.

but yeah, if you're fairly resistant, which is a possibility, it could take a quarter or more to give you the breakthrough you're seeking. but i'm willing to bet that 5g will get you there if you're used to an eighth...it seems like double the intensity at least to me, in terms of my subjective analysis of the dose-response curve i experience.
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5 grams seems like a more reasonable dose. Erowid even has the "heavy" experience begin at 5 grams. And I've definitely had an eighth blow my mind before, but in a different sort of way. I've heard this batch is quite good and they are caps only. I think I will stick to 5g.
 
That's a good idea. Mushrooms and LSD are two psychedelics I will never be a hero with. Up the doses slightly and you'll be rewarded! You don't want to jump to 7g and find out you only needed 5 to have the time of your life. FWIW, my 'breakthrough' dose was 7grams though. That should hold no bearing on what you decide to do, just thought I'd share for posterity.
 
It depends what kind of "breakthrough" you are looking for. If you are looking for a complete dissolution of reality like higher doses of DMT, and dissociative breakthroughs (like the "K hole") then even 5g might not cut it, I imagine somewhere around 7g+ would, but this is an extremely dangerous dose to take - and I have had a similar experience on 4-AcO-DMT and must say you NEED a sitter, or you're likely to get seriously hurt. I was covered in cuts and bruises with two sitters, I also asked someone to kill me, so I think doing this without a sitter could be potentially life threatening, if you don't have someone who can potentially restrain you, then don't venture into such high dose territory.

If you're looking for dissolution of the ego, between 3.5g and 5g is likely to be enough, 5g is quite likely to produce ++++ experiences consistently provided that you eat it on an empty stomach and don't have any psychedelic experience.

Just remember, although Terence McKenna calls these "heroic doses", there's nothing heroic about ending up in hospital because you took way too much without a sitter ;)

PS this will be merged with the appropriate B&D Mushroom thread, but since you're new you get a chance to reply first :D
 
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