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Television Breaking Bad

I'm partially retracting my earlier comments; I've watched a bit more and this is without doubt the most irreverently hilarious show I've ever seen. I'm cracking up now thinking about how casual they are about meth use.
 
is300ss said:
the best show EVER. its really going to be hard to top. seriously can anyone think of a better show?
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(in no particular order)
oz
the sopranos
the wire
mad men
twin peaks
generation kill
arrested development
....etc
there are lots of shows better than breaking bad. bb's drama and story structure are both not that great, bit annoying actually. it has its moment, but they are too brief to call this show "great".
 
^ god choices, i wont aqdd any just yet, i have a killer headache.

i missed the sopranos boat and just got on board a week ago. already nearly finished s2. brilliant show.

intro theme song even sounds like the wire.
 
Just finished blazing through the first three seasons in about two weeks, and holy fuckin meth is this a good show. Always liked Bryan Cranston's work on Malcolm in the Middle but I love seeing him as Walt, it's a whole new level of character for him.

Fuck I hope Jesse shot Gale...
 
I've seen all of the aforementioned shows except Twin Peaks and still think Breaking Bad is the best. Arrested Development doesn't really belong on the list, and I would exclude Generation Kill as well, as it was a short lived mini-series. It doesn't feel right comparing it to serialized shows that go on for 5+ seasons. It is like comparing apples to oranges.

For me it would go:

1. Breaking Bad

2. The Wire

3. Oz

4. Mad Men

5. The Sopranos
 
HoneyRoastedPeanut said:
Fuck I hope Jesse shot Gale...
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He did. The creator of the show said so.

Obviously the camera moving towards the barrel of the gun made this appear ambiguous, but this was not intentional.

Unless of course, he is just fucking with everybody, and Victor shot Jesse. I doubt it though, Jesse is the fan favorite character and absolutely integral to the show. I don't know if I could continue watching if they killed him off, I know that a lot of my drug addicted brethren can easily relate to him in many ways (besides, you know, like, killing people and all of that).
 
Awesome, thanks for clearing that up! Yeah, Aaron Paul has definitely been my favorite throughout the series acting-wise. I hope this leads to him getting movie roles.
 
the unintentional ambiguity of the last shot of the season is a sign of poor production. it totally looked like he shot to the right of the guy. what an infuriating and meaningless twist, or so it seemed. they could have easily shown or even just made the sound of the guy dropping to clear it up, but the chose not to. and now they're stuck relying on an explanation from the series creator.

lame

3,4 i included those shows, and was thinking of adding some animated series as well, as they all demonstrate far superior storytelling.
 
i agree that this show isn't great. i've been a fan since it came out but re-watching it shows the flaws. the pacing is often boring instead of methodical. the acting is hit-and-miss. walt's family is really annoying as well.

still worth watching, no doubt. i just think ppl hype up TV way too much because it's all they do w/ their time, so naturally they're gonna rationalize that what they do with their time is amazing.
 
95Land said:
The Tortuga bit was a little over the top, but still pretty comical. Show's quality. There's so many different directions they could take things in, it's gonna be really fun to go along for the ride.
Just curious: does anyone know how many batches they could realistically make from a drum of 4MAR that size?
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I'm aware this post is from almost 2 years ago, but can anyone expand on wtf 4-MAR (4-Methylaminorex) has to do with Breaking Bad?

If they have introduced 4-MAR into the plot I'm heading over to torrentz ASAP and dl'ing the whole series ;)

Well I'll probably do that regardless, as its a great show, but wtf?

KamMoye said:
walt's family is really annoying as well.
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Amen to that, brother. Walt's wife is such a royal cunt I want to punch her in the face.
 
both walt's wife and her sister are insufferable cunts

this show portrays women really poorly
 
L2R said:
both walt's wife and her sister are insufferable cunts

this show portrays women really poorly
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Some women are insufferable cunts, it portrays them accurately haha %)

Also - the sister is definitely a twat, but Skylar? Not the kinda personality I'm into, but I'd hardly say she's a cunt. Yeah she was pretty cold last season, but she's also coming off realizing that her husband and her whole life is completely full of shit. The entire series only takes place over the course of a few months to this point, AFAIK. When we saw her in Season 3, she was only a few weeks into knowing the truth about Walter.

Alsox2 - Marie (the sister) who is a certifiable twat no doubt, was significantly humanized after Hank was shot and I thought the actress that plays her did a GREAT job playing a much different role from the one she had spent 2+ seasons building up in those episodes.
 
nah, i don't buy the whole "my life is bullshit" rubbish. her husband kept that shit from her because of the way she would, and did react. the bitch brought it onto herself. she has zero redeemable qualities.

miss "five o'clock shadow" marie's concern about shot hank is cliche and tedious. cheap drama.

the only other strong female character is jessy's landlord/GF, and she ended up being manipulative and nasty. every other female walk-in has been simply retarded. seriously, this show portrays women very poorly.

the ONLY reason BL loves BB is the drug theme. had it been prostitution or gambling, no one here would give two shits about this show.
 
L2R said:
nah, i don't buy the whole "my life is bullshit" rubbish. her husband kept that shit from her because of the way she would, and did react. the bitch brought it onto herself. she has zero redeemable qualities.
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=D Spot on, mate

L2R said:
the ONLY reason BL loves BB is the drug theme. had it been prostitution or gambling, no one here would give two shits about this show.
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I would probably agree with this too, although that doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching it, for whatever reasons.
 
hahah, and peculiarly, i've seen them all so far too!

hmmm...

back to the lab for more tests!
 
L2R said:
both walt's wife and her sister are insufferable cunts

this show portrays women really poorly
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I don't know I think Julia Minesci played a sand out performance in the portrayal of women in society ;)
 
L2R said:
nah, i don't buy the whole "my life is bullshit" rubbish. her husband kept that shit from her because of the way she would, and did react. the bitch brought it onto herself. she has zero redeemable qualities.

miss "five o'clock shadow" marie's concern about shot hank is cliche and tedious. cheap drama.

the only other strong female character is jessy's landlord/GF, and she ended up being manipulative and nasty. every other female walk-in has been simply retarded. seriously, this show portrays women very poorly.

the ONLY reason BL loves BB is the drug theme. had it been prostitution or gambling, no one here would give two shits about this show.
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Hahah wait, so what should her reaction have been? Doting, boring, pragmatic southwestern American housewife fraught with worry over husband's terminal illness, handicapped son and second child on the way comes face to face with the reality that her entire life and relationship with husband over last few months (and gee, who knows how long before that if this is possible?) has been built entirely on a web of deceit and bullshit - and on top of all that, it's all been financially supported by an illegal narcotics trade innately tied to violence and suffering that may very well cause serious legal or physical harm to her and her children... and she somehow sucks as a person because she wasn't cool with that?

I guess that's your opinion if you want it to be. The character from the outset is flawed. So is every character on this show, so are almost all characters in any fiction. There needs to be some kind of struggle to forward the narrative. Skylar started out as a dopey pictures of kitty cats and PTA meetings mommy giving anniversary handjobs while more interested in her $14 eBay auction. She is faced with a major crisis that challenges all her beliefs and preconceptions and reacts in line with what is realistic for her character. She shows "strength" when she expels Walter from her and her childrens' lives to the best of her ability, in order to protect them. She shows attempts at growth and independence by going back out and getting a job, trying to start a new relationship outside of her marriage. She shows a balanced level of insight trying to reconcile her fears and worries with what she wants to believe from Walter. All occur with extremely varying degrees of success... that's normal, that's natural.

Would it somehow have made a better story if she was just like "OK, cool!" and her and Walt become some Bonnie & Clyde duo cooking meth and living large together? Hell no, that would be cheesy. Would it be better if the character was written "stronger" from the onset? Who can say, but if that were the case they wouldn't have been able to use most of the plot devices of Walt trying to - and mostly being successful at - hiding his other life over the entirety of the first two seasons. It would have been a totally different story.

Same goes for Marie, she lives this bullshit sheltered existence shoplifting and putting people down to get her off... and then when something legitimately dangerous effects her she breaks down into a completely new realm of emotional turmoil. I didn't really see Jesse's girlfriend as a strong woman at all. She had a more hip personality, she had a snappy wit, but she was by far the weakest of the bunch. She was a sucker for losers and getting high and she paid the ultimate price for it. I'm sure she had much stronger opinions on which Kate Bush album is the best, but do you REALLY think that character could have handled the emotional conflict Skylar was faced with as deftly as she did? She couldn't even handle her own pussy ass shortcomings as a person.
 
Nice post. As an outwardly misogynstic male I find myself oddly sympathasizing with the plight of the two female leads. I mean, seriousely......put yourself in their place and ask if you would put up with all the bullshit. I think not. As for Jane, she's also just a person with a problem reacting to situations in a believable manner.
 
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