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Television Breaking Bad

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There are a million reasons to love this show. This is but one of them:

"The watch that Jesse gives Walt is the Tag Heuer Monaco, a watch forever linked to and made famous by Steve McQueen in the movie Le Mans (1977). Steve McQueen died of a rare, inoperable lung cancer."
 
The Wire would be a great show if it weren't so fantastically boring. Breaking Bad has come close to terminal tedium at times, partially (I think) because after the Wire, every series maker feels the burden of pausing the tension to create art. Many of my favorite shows fall into this hole from time to time.

Several pages up in this thread, a poster complains about introducing someone to this series the very week that Open House (worst BB episode ever) aired. The would-be BB neophyte promptly gave up on the show after seeing that ridiculous episode. BUT, this is my experience every time I try to introduce somebody to The Wire. The pace is so plodding!

There is art and there is entertainment, and (very rarely) the twain shall meet.
 
I have seen all of Breaking Bad up to the most recent "season," and although I liked it at first, upon rewatching it I found it boring.

-shrugs-
 
23536 said:
The Wire would be a great show if it weren't so fantastically boring. Breaking Bad has come close to terminal tedium at times, partially (I think) because after the Wire, every series maker feels the burden of pausing the tension to create art. Many of my favorite shows fall into this hole from time to time.

Several pages up in this thread, a poster complains about introducing someone to this series the very week that Open House (worst BB episode ever) aired. The would-be BB neophyte promptly gave up on the show after seeing that ridiculous episode. BUT, this is my experience every time I try to introduce somebody to The Wire. The pace is so plodding!

There is art and there is entertainment, and (very rarely) the twain shall meet.
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I found The Wire intensely interesting on my first viewing. Every episode seemed to say something, even if it moved slowly in a more conventional way. Today, with a more grown up perspective, I tried to watch it again, and I found it slow and boring (couldn't make it past season 3) and everything that they tried to say, which I once found so profound, I now believe to be wrong. Somebody, giving a review of Breaking Bad, said that The Wire displays David Simon's own "polemic world view" (the review for The Wire was still overwhelmingly positive). Today I tend to agree. I don't know if I would dislike it today if I were watching for the first time and all the suspense was still there, but upon rewatch I seriously need to reevaluate.

I thought season 3 of Breaking Bad navigated the slow episodes in the beginning expertly. It fit, Walt had just had one of the most pivotal moments of his life in letting Jane die, having his baby, losing Jesse for some time to addiction, and finally making big money, not to mention still coping with surviving cancer. He reaped big rewards, but also lost a lot of his humanity. It made sense that he didn't promptly want to jump back into the meth game. He wanted his old life back in a way, but when he realized that it was too late (with his wife finding out, then fucking her boss as some kind of twisted retribution for his attempts to look out for his family), he finally went back in and got back to work.

The drama in this series of episodes, season 3 episodes 1-5, was picturesque. It's the way you slow down a series for a time. It made for better, more fluid and intense tension later in the season, from Sunset where Hank is right outside the RV with Walt and Jesse, to his shootout in One Minute, to the penultimate scene of the series in Run and the entire episode of Full Measures. This was the greatest season in television history and a large part of the greatness was accomplished by taking some of the tension out of the early part of the season (and a couple later episodes like Fly and Kafkaesque) in order to develop characters and paint the picture of the season.

In season 4, they navigated this not so expertly at times. Open House was.. just awful in many ways. I think it might be responsible for the way I feel about the season. I still believed the drama was great overall that season, even if the tension was less than adequate. Season 5, IMO, was a massive improvement in many ways. "Fifty-One" was another great domestic episode, and Dead-Freight managed great tension.
 
For me, television is art attempting to sell you something.

Do I want to buy?

The Wire is the antithesis of boring because there are no throwaway scenes. The characters are, to varying degrees, alive.

The scale is bigger and the stakes are larger.

Breaking Bad is self-contained and, in the end, simply unrealistic. It's a roller-coaster. That's fine and dandy if that's your thing. It used to be mine but is no longer.
 
SHHMCJOOAPOYS said:
this is just an epic fail. You should watch the show through from the beginning and avoid this thread (for spoilers, obv)
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Carl Landrover said:
Word. You'd have no appreciation for overall the character development for every character nor would you have an understanding of the White/Schrader family dynamic. Also you would not fully comprehend Walt and Jesse's relationship or appreciate the development of their partnership.

I just started re-watching the series on Netflix about a week ago. It had been a long time since I'd seen season 1 and since I've been so into the show lately I'd figure I'd go through the seasons again. The first season is only 7 episodes, but it's crucial in setting up the series. Not to mention that if you start out in season 2, you're starting out with Walt and Jesse having been kidnapped by Tuco. You're jumping right into the middle of a story line. If you're enjoying season 2 then you should really stop and go back and start with season 1. You'll enjoy season 2 a lot more since you'll be more aware of what's going on in the show.
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poledriver said:
I wonder why someone would start with series 2...
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McHigh_HMG said:
Maybe she didnt have access to season 1. What does it matter if she started on season 2 anyways?
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Tommyboy said:
There are certain shows that you can jump right in and start watching without missing too much from the back-story. Breaking Bad isn't one of those shows though IMO, especially since it is slow paced and the various characters all have their own back-stories and relationships. Also the development of the characters is a big part of the show, so seeing their transformation from beginning to end makes the show better and can only be done if you watch the complete series.
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hahahhahaah.
it's cause my boyfriend started watching this summer and he got obsessed so when i went over he'd like insist on watching it but didn't like catch me up or backtrack for me. he'd just explain everything i missed and i'd get stuck watching whatever he was up to. i am in the process of downloading it now. i have season 1 so i'm gunna start that ASAP actually cause i got to like mid-season 3 but missed at least half of the episodes.

jeeze guys! so hostile!
hahahah
 
Hostile?

I'm going to buy you a dictionary since you didn't understand 'redundant' on The Dark Knight Rises thread either.
 
I thought she used it in the right context.

But anywayyyyyys, does anyone notice that Walt Jr looks like the real life Jimmy from South Park. Its kinda fucked up... I know....but its true.
 
McHigh_HMG said:
does anyone notice that Walt Jr looks like the real life Jimmy from South Park. Its kinda fucked up... I know....but its true.
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Stan: Jimmy, can you tell Wendy that she's a continous source of inspiration?
Jimmy [to Wendy]: Stan says that your a cunt-cunt-cunt-cunt...
Wendy: Well, tell Stan to FUCK OFF! [walks away]
Jimmy: ...a continuous s-source of inspiration.

*"Wow, what a great audience!"*
 
shreddedlettuce said:
Stan: Jimmy, can you tell Wendy that she's a continous source of inspiration?
Jimmy [to Wendy]: Stan says that your a cunt-cunt-cunt-cunt...
Wendy: Well, tell Stan to FUCK OFF! [walks away]
Jimmy: ...a continuous s-source of inspiration.

*"Wow, what a great audience!"*
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Thats exactly the scene from south park i had in my head. You psychic bro?
 
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