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Greenstar420 said:
Awesome episode last night as usual, love the new method of cooking. I was curious what walt was trying to say at the end of the episode about "victor flew too close to the sun and got his throat cut", What point was he trying to make there?
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I think he was pissed at Mike for the way he divided out of the cash, and made this comment to establish the fact that he can stop anyone. (eg. getting rid of gus).
Personally I don't think it was aimed at Jesse, but aimed at Mike.
However he wanted Jesse to hear it just to keep him in line too.
 
I missed a few minutes of the episode the other night.

Did they show them actually selling anything? I saw where they had set up and began their cook, but I missed a short bit and then they were standing in front of a table with hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I know there's probably a similar distribution network from when Gus was in charge, but I also remember Mike talking about how Gus had set up his distribution via his Pollos Hermano's trucks. I probably missed something important, but it seemed like they went from cooking to having money really quickly, while that had always been a major issue in the earlier seasons.
 
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That was pretty clear, I just didn't think he'd have the same network as Gus.

Mike was more in charge of security. We also saw him picking up money and making sure a delivery got to its destination last season. I just think it's a bit of stretch that he would have similar connections and networks set up, and wouldn't have difficulty in selling.

The DEA is all over this case. I would think people would be hesitant to get involved with someone who was connected so close to Gus at this point
 
Carl Landrover said:
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That was pretty clear, I just didn't think he'd have the same network as Gus.
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Why not? Mike was Gus' right hand guy and was, next to Gus himself, the most involved person in the business. His responsibilities extended beyond merely security: he handled everything from escorting product, collecting payment, managing the work force, and taking care of "problems". Gus placed an enormous amount of trust in Mike and was probably the only person Gus respected. I don't think it's far-fetched at all to think that Mike would have access to similar, if not the exact same networks as Gus.

The DEA is all over this case. I would think people would be hesitant to get involved with someone who was connected so close to Gus at this point
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Yeah, this is something I'm a bit confused about.
 
Well even if he does have similar connections, it still seemed like they got their money awfully quick. Wasn't sure if I missed some montage of product going out and money coming back in or anything.

Assuming Mike is using similar networks, he'd still be having to do the same jobs he was when he was working for Gus or he would have promoted one of his guys to do a lot of those jobs. It seems like he's doing most of the work, with the exception of the actual cook.
 
MrGrunge said:
Why not? Mike was Gus' right hand guy and was, next to Gus himself, the most involved person in the business. His responsibilities extended beyond merely security: he handled everything from escorting product, collecting payment, managing the work force, and taking care of "problems". Gus placed an enormous amount of trust in Mike and was probably the only person Gus respected. I don't think it's far-fetched at all to think that Mike would have access to similar, if not the exact same networks as Gus.
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Also, the second episode seemed to show that Mike had a very intimate involvement in the business affairs, procurement of precursors, ect.
 
Carl Landrover said:
Well even if he does have similar connections, it still seemed like they got their money awfully quick. Wasn't sure if I missed some montage of product going out and money coming back in or anything.

Assuming Mike is using similar networks, he'd still be having to do the same jobs he was when he was working for Gus or he would have promoted one of his guys to do a lot of those jobs. It seems like he's doing most of the work, with the exception of the actual cook.
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Lol, they spent, what 8 or 9 hundred thousand dollars just covering expenses. Mike is taking a more managerial role this time around, hiring out help where he needs it. I don't think it was prudent to actually show money and product changing hands because they're not responsible for that task anymore, Mike's delegated that responsibility to someone we haven't seen.

The cast has pretty much stayed the same, but the number of people working under Walt and Jesse has multiplied by a pretty huge factor.
 
In the scene where the 4 of them [Mike, Jesse, Walt, and Saul] are in the car scouting out the house being treated by Vamanos Pest control while Saul gives a little history on the crew, one of them asks if they are ready to vote on whether this will be the way they will be cooking or not. Walt says they are cooking there and don't need to vote (not the exact quote).

Do you think that he took charge of it as if his say was all that mattered there since it was decided that he is in charge of the cooking and Mike is in charge of the business? I took it as him asserting himself as the one in charge of cooking, so he made that clear by not letting the others vote.

That's kinda how I saw that scene, although it could just be seen as him saying that it [going from house to house being treated for pests] is the best way to cook and since they didn't like any of the previous places that Saul showed them there wasn't much to vote on.
 
Tommyboy said:
although it could just be seen as him saying that it [going from house to house being treated for pests] is the best way to cook and since they didn't like any of the previous places that Saul showed them there wasn't much to vote on.
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I think this was it.
It looked like all of them kinda "clicked" with that venue and a vote would not have been necessary.
 
This show is the type to psychoanalyze. I think the show this season is really unpredictable on how they get to point A to B, I do believe Walter will be a drug kingpin by the end of the season, but the fun is getting there. Classic moment when he's sitting next to Brock.
 
I was confused with the scene from I think the first episode of this season, where Walt was at Dennys on his birthday (either 52nd or 55th, I forgot but he made the year with the bacon from his meal) with a full head of hair, and he met a guy in the bathroom to make an exchange there. What was that all about, and when was it from?

Edt: I saw earlier that it was his 52nd birthday and it was a flash forward.

As for the series covering 1 year in 5 seasons, Jessee's hairline hasn't cooperated with the timeline. :\

P A said:
If ever there was a character that I truly hated in a show, and if ever that show were Breaking Bad, I'd have to on record and nominate Flynn/Junior/whatever the fuck his name is. Before I get flamed by disability advocates and laughed off by ardent fans (Breakfast Club, etc.), I have to wonder out loud: What is he doing in this show? What essential dramatic or narrative purpose does he fulfill as a character? And don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with disabled people as such appearing on network television - in fact, I welcome it. But if their appearance serves no better aim than the shameless insertion of a token character in order to promote 'awareness,' then I have to call bullshit. Now, if they had just given him more lines, made his character more accessible (by, for instance, making him out to be something deeper or more interesting than "He's an Average American Teenager with a Disability So Look How Normal He Can be In a Supportive Environment"), and woven him into the plot somehow, I would have no complaints. As it is, his character is cringe-worthy and worse than useless.
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Well they did use his disability to show how Walt had become more aggressive in the episode where they were helping him try on clothes at the store, and Walt beat up the kids that were making fun of him. Other than that I always thought of it was more of a reason for Walt to be motivated to make more money so that his family would be taken care of if he died. I think that having a son that could not support himself has added to Walts need to make enough money to support his son for life.
 
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Tommyboy said:
I was confused with the scene from I think the first episode of this season, where Walt was at Dennys on his birthday (either 52nd or 55th, I forgot but he made the year with the bacon from his meal) with a full head of hair, and he met a guy in the bathroom to make an exchange there. What was that all about, and when was it from?
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In a flash-forward (glimpse of the future like scene 1 of series 1), Walt sits in a diner and arranges his bacon into the number 52: it's his birthday. The waitress tells him that meals are free on birthdays, so Walt flashes her a New Hampshire driver's license with his photo on it.

A man walks in — it's Lawson, the gun dealer from whom Walt purchased his .38 revolver. Walt follows him into the bathroom, where he hands Lawson a thick envelope in exchange for a set of keys. Lawson asks for Walt's assurance that the acquisition won't wind up in Mexico, and then leaves. Walt coughs and pops some pills.

As he leaves the restaurant, the waitress calls out, "Happy birthday, Mr. Lambert."

In the parking lot, Walt opens the trunk of a white Volvo and takes out a duffel bag. Using the clicker he got from Lawson, he finds a nearby car and opens the trunk: inside, there's an M60 machine gun. He scans the lot, tosses in the duffel and slams the trunk.
 
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Happy birthday Mr. White!
 
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