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bottled water is bullshit

OK, OK, enough dicksizing about water quality already here.
 
xcidium said:
^^ Tasmanian tap water shits all over any other. Nuff said.


And ahh.....bottled water is a waste of cash IMO, just get a bottle, refill and refrigerate.

are you serious? taz water tastes like piss.
 
ooo i'm a water aficionado. i cringe whenever i hear someone say they love dasani. god damn. shite tap water that's purified than remineralized is like... some sort of bizarre heresy! I prefer to buy Canadian bottled water, not just because I live here but also because there is so much untainted land mass that there is a rich variety of flavourful water available coast-to-coast. My favorite right now is ICE AGE (link to review) because it's phenomenal glacier water for a decent price. I hear it's available in the U.S. too so if you haven't tried glacier water yet, it is most definitely worth the cost. Nothing quenches thirst better than such pure water after a workout... such a faint level of TDS (4ppm!) leaves no trace in your mouth, just nice clean, incredibly soft perfect water. makes my mouth water just to think about it!
 
I agree thujone. Lets not forget about the 2004 Coca-Cola Dasani tap water fiasco. Sure they say they recalled it and shit but the fact remains that it's still Coca-Cola lying to its consumers about their shitty tasting water. The student body at my college last year protested our contract with Coca-Cola (mostly because of the water situation) and thankfully it's not sold on our campus anymore.

If anyone wants to reminisce...

Coca - Cola Admits That Dasani is Nothing But Tap Water
by Trevor Datson
Published on Thursday, March 4, 2004 by Reuters

LONDON - It made for great headlines, but the fact that the UK version of Coca-Cola's Dasani brand bottled water comes out of the London public supply should hardly have come as a surprise.

"Coke's in hot water," "Eau dear" and "The real sting" were three good examples of the newspaper headline writer's art, but the only real difference between Dasani and many other bottled waters is that the humble origin of the product is firmly in the spotlight.

Figures from independent beverage research company Canadean show that at least two out of every five bottles of water sold around the world are, like Dasani, "purified" waters, rather than "source" waters which originate from a spring.

Most of the supermarket own-label bottled waters consist of treated mains water. They may be dechlorinated, filtered further, purified using ultraviolet light and have minerals either added or subtracted. They may also be carbonated.

In short, they are subjected to many of the same treatments that source waters undergo to satisfy public health requirements after being pumped up from the ground.

Alongside flagship brands such as Evian, Perrier, and Malvern, most of the big-name water producers market several purified water lines, often in countries where the safety of the public water supply is a concern.

Nestle's Pure Life is one such leading brand and PepsiCo's Aquafina is another, while Danone's Sparkletts and Alhambra marques are top sellers in the United States, where mains water purity is not usually an issue.

You also have mixed source waters, like Nestle's Aquarel, which comes from seven different springs. Such spring water is cheaper to produce and therefore to sell, and has proved a big hit with consumers in Europe and elsewhere.

But generally speaking, anything that doesn't say "source" or "spring" on the label is just fancy tap water.

PURE HYPE?

So why all the brouhaha over Dasani, a fairly typical product in a rapidly expanding market?

The origin of UK Dasani (it's produced all around the world but is always purified rather than source water) came to light when a complaint was made to the British Food Standards Agency over Coke's use of the word "pure" in its Dasani marketing.

The complaint, now being dealt with by the local authorities where Dasani is bottled in Sidcup, east London, hinges on the charge that the marketing implies that tap water is 'impure'.

As a market for bottled water, the UK is relatively immature. Britons consume an average of 28 litres of bottled water per year, compared with about 140 litres for Italy and France.

So the fact that bottlers take water, purify it further and sell it on can hit the headlines, especially if the water producers take a substantial mark-up in the process.

"Coke didn't do itself any favours by not getting the water supplier on side to begin with," one drinks industry insider said of the local supplier Thames Water.

Like Nestle, McDonald's and Cadbury Schweppes, Coke makes a gratifying target for journalists, in that all those companies trade heavily on their brand.

That makes them extremely vulnerable to criticism, as Coke already found to its cost with its failed "New Coke" launch.

YOU'RE NOT JUST BUYING WATER

Coca-Cola's seven million pound marketing drive for Dasani has taken a savage hit, but the success of the brand in other countries, such as the United States where it is the number two seller, suggests it isn't about to go away.

In the developing world you usually buy bottled water because it's clean, or because it doesn't taste of chlorine. In the west, it's a "lifestyle choice".

Most consumers in developed countries would accept that the water that comes out of their taps is clean enough and quite serviceable for cooking, washing or even drinking.

But just as a pair of supermarket own-brand running shoes will do the job, Nike, Reebok and Adidas can all charge top dollar for the kudos, the street cred, the style statement they make.

This is the essence of brand equity, and it's why consumers are happy to pay over the odds for Welsh TyNant water in Cyprus, or French Evian in the Peruvian Andes. It's also why the "water sommelier" has become a feature of upmarket U.S. restaurants.

"Branding does matter, even for a mundane product like water," Frits van Dijk, chief executive of Nestle Waters, said last year.

"We produce value-added waters. Marketing and R&D all have to be financed somehow and that's why you'll never see Nestle in the very low price market. It's not our territory."
 
Deathrow558 said:
Sorry that should be America not the Americans.

Bottled water started as a European trend (Evian, Perrier, etc.) and spread to the US. Blame the French for this obnoxious and wasteful practice.
 
The tap water in San Francisco is OK, because we have the Hetch Hetchy reservoir (still relatively clean comparatively).

I do need to caution anyone who goes to Vegas NOT TO DRINK THE TAP WATER! I have had no problem drinking tap water in other countries, but on my first trip to Vegas, I drank a glass of tap water after brushing my teeth and was violently ill for several hours. Screwed up my plans to drink that night!
 
Deathrow558 said:
Exactly. Until you're drinking shit infested, mosquito ridden swamp water just shut up and get real.

That about sums up my opinion.

People these days have pitifully weak immune systems and as they say, a (weak) fool and his money are easily separated.

Even when travelling I have no problem refilling bottles with potentially unsafe water and adding some purification tablets, a bit of lemon juice and sugar and I'm happily on my way.
 
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Matt, I don't blame the Europeans. I blame the lax dumping laws in this country that have led to water that not only tastes awful, but is full of chemicals and heavy metals. I have well water, and I'll be goddamned before I drink any of that stuff from the tap. If I'm at home, I purify. If I'm anywhere else, it's bottled.

(edit: grammar correction)
 
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Finder said:
I'm not opposed to tap water--city water here is pretty good--but I have one of those PUR filters on my tap and use that for cooking/drinking. If I'm out any bottled water will do, really. I'm not picky.

Basically, yeah.

Guelph water owns. We account for a large portion of both perie and nestle bottled water.
 
I tend to side with the people that view bottled water as a ridiculous excess unless it's being consumed due to poor tap-water quality.

I think the thing that makes it stand out as "tasting better" than tap water is the simple fact that bottled water is chilled before it's cconsumed.
 
oldskoolbl said:
I dont know if Chi-Towns water is anything to brag about, it was decent.... Milwaukee still has it beat.

Chicago water is great, as long as you don't stray too far from the city itself (pipes add more crap along the way in the suburbs). It's a pretty direct source from the lake, and I enjoy the taste. Usually I can only stand distilled water.

I don't understand people who buy bottled water. Is it so hard to buy distilled water in the gallon ($0.60 - 1.60 a gallon), and fill your own bottle (which can be made of something other than plastic, which leeches taste). Distilled water is as pure as you can get, so you know it's not filtered tap water. Why risk something so basic?

Also, some companies add shitty salts and minerals that leave your mouth dry after drinking (I assume to promote more drinking of their water). Fuck that. I enjoy Fiji, though.
 
When you live near the country there's also lots of springs and wells, people can just pull up with car full of massive plastic containers or something.
 
AmorRoark said:
"Eau dear"
LOL..

Nestle's Pure Life is one such leading brand and PepsiCo's Aquafina is another, while Danone's Sparkletts and Alhambra marques are top sellers in the United States, where mains water purity is not usually an issue.

wait, is this article trying to claim that Pure Life is tap water? As far as I know it is and always has been from Aberfoyle's exclusive spring which is located in...

Akoto said:
Gog said:
How's the University of Guelph?
It owns too, especially if you like women and agriculture.

ehhhh uoguelph is kinda hit and miss. I visited recently because I'm thinking of transferring there next year and I made it all the way to the south elevators in the university centre without encountering any serious talent but then when I finally found the floor I was supposed to be on such a beautiful brunette walked by with a smile that it set a nice tone for the day... the school sounds pretty good too, so I'm definitely going there ... and finding me that brunette :D
 
Yeh, I don't think I'm gonna go to that university to see the brunette. I was wondering if it was a good school aside from trivial bullshit :) Thanks though.
 
Even when I travel to other countries I NEVER drink from the tap water.........I guess it's just ingrained in us Asian denizens not to since back here tap water is never for drinking purposes :p
We buy our drinking water by the gallon.....very cheap. I prefer distilled or purified, but my office has that Japanese ionized water lol........I'm not complaining.
 
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