Noddy Boy
Bluelighter
Hello everyone!
I have googled and UTSE but honestly couldn't find anything at either place. I really hope I am posting this in the correct area.
I just bought a few "packs" of "Bonsai Grow" from a customer at my work who is a "salesman". He sells Hayze spice blends for smoking and has just introduced me to this. The products that he is selling are all from my local area, they do it all themselves. In the spirit of non-sourcing, i will be vague as to where I picked these up. So if you are familiar with the Bavarian Village with tons of cool shops, and they have Oktoberfest every year, and live in central WA, then maybe u know that it is "worth leavin" backwards, and hopefully there is a chance that it has been taken and ID'd. So Anyway, I picked up 2 of one flavor and a single of the other flavor. The packs are thin foil ,sticker label, barcode, and reads:
Garden Plant Food
Bonsai Grow
Energy for Your Plants
Instructions: Empty contents into 16oz of water. Water plant 3 times a week.
Do not sell to minors
Not for human consumption.
There is a website at the bottom as well but offers no info as to the ingredients.
So I have tasted just a dab of each and they are both very bitter (Big surprise there
). I was told that these are from Khat, which leads me to believe that the "Vibrance" is possibly 4MMC or maybe an analog of, ie. 4-MeMABP. And the "Accelerator" I am unsure of what it may be. Could be Naphyrone for all I know.
The kind called "Vibrance" is "good for dancing". It's powder inside a thin package and the powder weighs about 90-100mg (one pack was 94mg and the other was 96mg) is off-white to tan-ish in color. I was told that 2 of those packs would be enough. It has very little if any odor and is pleasant in the nose, light burn with 10mg.
The other is called "Accelerator" and is very very white and weighs approx 80mg. He told me this would make me "alert" lol kinda like coke or speed. I was told 1 of these is enough. There isn't much of an odor, very faint if any. This one has a bit of a burn in the nose, 8 mg was enough for me to know it will hurt putting it all up there if I decide to do it this way.
I am not asking for anyone to ID what is in these packs based on the information I have given, because I know it's impossible for anyone to tell me unless they in fact have further knowledge about these. I can't find a thing on the web about either of them. All I know is that they from khat (yeah right - since khat is illegal but in the USA 4MMC and other cathinones are in the grey area) I would like to know what I have for sure before I take it, but I haven't a way to positively ID either of these 2 substances.
**SO** I was hoping that maybe someone here at bluelight has had some experience with these "packs". If anyone has any ideas or can point me in that direction it would be really awesome. I am unsure how it all works with answering my question, but if need be, PM me. I really want to know what I have being that the drive is only 20 min's away and I will pick up more if it is in face 4MMC which I have never had the pleasure of tasting...
If I have posted in the wrong forum or gone outside of the guidelines for the post, I apologize. I read through the TOS and from what I saw I don't think I broke any rules, didn't list the vendor since it's not a business anyway, he is just a "distributor". And since a direct search on google brought up nothing, not even the website listed on the package. I don't think it is being sold online unless you become a "distributor" for their products and being they are a bit local, I can't imagine there being too many people distributing these.
Well, I am going to be a guinea pig and try a bit of the "Dance" formula and will report back with my findings. I have done a 1mg allergy test already, all good there. I am thinking I will insufflate about 25-30 mg and see what the results are.
The "Vibrance" formula results:
Positive results, mood lift, definitely some alerts happening within 5 mins, just put the rest up my nose, totaling 60mg a lot less pleasant with larger amounts in the nose. Will report back later after effects have manifested and diminished.
Post back quickly if possible as to what they could possibly be *ONLY if you have experience with either of these* =)
Thanks
-Noddy
I have googled and UTSE but honestly couldn't find anything at either place. I really hope I am posting this in the correct area.
I just bought a few "packs" of "Bonsai Grow" from a customer at my work who is a "salesman". He sells Hayze spice blends for smoking and has just introduced me to this. The products that he is selling are all from my local area, they do it all themselves. In the spirit of non-sourcing, i will be vague as to where I picked these up. So if you are familiar with the Bavarian Village with tons of cool shops, and they have Oktoberfest every year, and live in central WA, then maybe u know that it is "worth leavin" backwards, and hopefully there is a chance that it has been taken and ID'd. So Anyway, I picked up 2 of one flavor and a single of the other flavor. The packs are thin foil ,sticker label, barcode, and reads:
Garden Plant Food
Bonsai Grow
Energy for Your Plants
Instructions: Empty contents into 16oz of water. Water plant 3 times a week.
Do not sell to minors
Not for human consumption.
There is a website at the bottom as well but offers no info as to the ingredients.
So I have tasted just a dab of each and they are both very bitter (Big surprise there
). I was told that these are from Khat, which leads me to believe that the "Vibrance" is possibly 4MMC or maybe an analog of, ie. 4-MeMABP. And the "Accelerator" I am unsure of what it may be. Could be Naphyrone for all I know.The kind called "Vibrance" is "good for dancing". It's powder inside a thin package and the powder weighs about 90-100mg (one pack was 94mg and the other was 96mg) is off-white to tan-ish in color. I was told that 2 of those packs would be enough. It has very little if any odor and is pleasant in the nose, light burn with 10mg.
The other is called "Accelerator" and is very very white and weighs approx 80mg. He told me this would make me "alert" lol kinda like coke or speed. I was told 1 of these is enough. There isn't much of an odor, very faint if any. This one has a bit of a burn in the nose, 8 mg was enough for me to know it will hurt putting it all up there if I decide to do it this way.
I am not asking for anyone to ID what is in these packs based on the information I have given, because I know it's impossible for anyone to tell me unless they in fact have further knowledge about these. I can't find a thing on the web about either of them. All I know is that they from khat (yeah right - since khat is illegal but in the USA 4MMC and other cathinones are in the grey area) I would like to know what I have for sure before I take it, but I haven't a way to positively ID either of these 2 substances.
**SO** I was hoping that maybe someone here at bluelight has had some experience with these "packs". If anyone has any ideas or can point me in that direction it would be really awesome. I am unsure how it all works with answering my question, but if need be, PM me. I really want to know what I have being that the drive is only 20 min's away and I will pick up more if it is in face 4MMC which I have never had the pleasure of tasting...
If I have posted in the wrong forum or gone outside of the guidelines for the post, I apologize. I read through the TOS and from what I saw I don't think I broke any rules, didn't list the vendor since it's not a business anyway, he is just a "distributor". And since a direct search on google brought up nothing, not even the website listed on the package. I don't think it is being sold online unless you become a "distributor" for their products and being they are a bit local, I can't imagine there being too many people distributing these.
Well, I am going to be a guinea pig and try a bit of the "Dance" formula and will report back with my findings. I have done a 1mg allergy test already, all good there. I am thinking I will insufflate about 25-30 mg and see what the results are.
The "Vibrance" formula results:
Positive results, mood lift, definitely some alerts happening within 5 mins, just put the rest up my nose, totaling 60mg a lot less pleasant with larger amounts in the nose. Will report back later after effects have manifested and diminished.
Post back quickly if possible as to what they could possibly be *ONLY if you have experience with either of these* =)
Thanks
-Noddy
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