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Bong Water Qualifies as Controlled Substance, Says Supreme Court
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Damien
Bluelight Crew
the glass dick is the only kind of meth pipe i've ever seen. foils are a substitute when you dont have one of those. lightbulbs work too haha.
can you find a picture of these "water meth pipes"? i hate not having the correct information, or being ignorant because i've never heard of something and cant find any information on it![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I see em in smoke shops around here, I'll try and snap a pic.
Huaca
Greenlighter
The courts are wasting our tax money on this trivia. What's next? Cops will bust in while you're urinating and have your toilet water tested for drugs. "Maybe he was going to drink or inject it."
No more "land of the free" anywhere, except maybe central Greenland.
No more "land of the free" anywhere, except maybe central Greenland.
slimvictor
Bluelight Crew
This person speaks the truth.
We need to see this for what it is: a total sham.
Nobody has the right to pretend that pot smokers might drink or inject bong water.
It is completely false.
They are making laws that affect our lives based on lies.
Will you sit there are placidly accept this Kalfkaesque rubbish,
or do something about it?
In the modern world, you vote with your dollar.
Do not forget this.
Research the companies you are supporting, and make sure that they are worth supporting.
Give donations to worthy causes, like Erowid and NORML (imperfect, maybe, but they are representing your voice).
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
This is a joke honestly, that is paraphernillia. You could say there is THC in the resin on cone pieces/bowls or little bits of recrystalised meth in a meth pipe but its paraphernillia. Paraphernilia is a tool used to consume drugs, ofcourse there will be traces in it, if your going to charge for drug possession then what is the point in defining drug paraphernilia?
Slimvictor I don't think people should face lighter sentences just because their preferred ROA is healthier than other methods. I personally don't believe bongs are any safer than pipes or joints to be honest, I think they are worse. Maybe a little bit of crap gets filtered but you also take in obscene amounts of smoke not possible via other ROA. When I was a heavy bong smoker I would cough up black phlegm constantly.
I know of people using water "bongs" to smoke meth, never tried it personally. Seems pointless to me because water steals some of your meth and meth smoke isn't even harsh at all to begin with.
Slimvictor I don't think people should face lighter sentences just because their preferred ROA is healthier than other methods. I personally don't believe bongs are any safer than pipes or joints to be honest, I think they are worse. Maybe a little bit of crap gets filtered but you also take in obscene amounts of smoke not possible via other ROA. When I was a heavy bong smoker I would cough up black phlegm constantly.
I know of people using water "bongs" to smoke meth, never tried it personally. Seems pointless to me because water steals some of your meth and meth smoke isn't even harsh at all to begin with.
slimvictor
Bluelight Crew
drug mentor and Transcendence -
I was joking about lighter sentences because of a healthier delivery method.
However, I was not joking about my belief that bongs are healthier than pipes or joints.
Transcendence, you cited one study that suggested otherwise, and drug mentor cited personal experience agreeing with you. I, however, have different experience. When I smoke from a pipe or joint, my throat hurts. When I smoke through a bong, my throat doesn't hurt. I have read that the heat of the smoke is the primary factor causing damage that can lead to cancer (can't remember where I read it - it was probably around a decade ago), and of course the water cools down the smoke. I don't take crazy hits, preferring small ones, drug mentor, so that is not a factor for me.
I have only seen one study on the issue - the one in MAPS that Transcendence cited - and those of us who have read thoroughly in a field of science know that one study is usually best not taken as proof, but as suggestive. It could be correct, of course, and that is the best scientific evidence we have to go on now - but my personal experience trumps any scientific evidence, at least in my own mind. I can actually feel the damage done to my throat when I smoke pipes or joints, and I don't feel it (or feel it less) when I smoke bongs. So, for me, bongs seem to be healthier. It would take a lot of studies to convince me otherwise.
Of course, vapes are the best for health.
I was joking about lighter sentences because of a healthier delivery method.
However, I was not joking about my belief that bongs are healthier than pipes or joints.
Transcendence, you cited one study that suggested otherwise, and drug mentor cited personal experience agreeing with you. I, however, have different experience. When I smoke from a pipe or joint, my throat hurts. When I smoke through a bong, my throat doesn't hurt. I have read that the heat of the smoke is the primary factor causing damage that can lead to cancer (can't remember where I read it - it was probably around a decade ago), and of course the water cools down the smoke. I don't take crazy hits, preferring small ones, drug mentor, so that is not a factor for me.
I have only seen one study on the issue - the one in MAPS that Transcendence cited - and those of us who have read thoroughly in a field of science know that one study is usually best not taken as proof, but as suggestive. It could be correct, of course, and that is the best scientific evidence we have to go on now - but my personal experience trumps any scientific evidence, at least in my own mind. I can actually feel the damage done to my throat when I smoke pipes or joints, and I don't feel it (or feel it less) when I smoke bongs. So, for me, bongs seem to be healthier. It would take a lot of studies to convince me otherwise.
Of course, vapes are the best for health.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ The thing is if your THAT concerned you will vape or eat it, plus just because you take smaller hits doesn't mean thats the norm for bong users. I don't know about heat of smoke being the main factor in lung cancer, I thought it was the carcinogens in the smoke which I do admit some are filtered out by water.
Cancer isn't the only consideration anyway, there is chronic respiratory illness and just general unhealthiness. Not much will ever convince me bongs aren't the most unhealthy way to consume cannabis, obviously not counting smoking through tin cans and foil and shit. It is still my preferred method to use cannabis, health is not my primary concern when I am abusing drugs.
Cancer isn't the only consideration anyway, there is chronic respiratory illness and just general unhealthiness. Not much will ever convince me bongs aren't the most unhealthy way to consume cannabis, obviously not counting smoking through tin cans and foil and shit. It is still my preferred method to use cannabis, health is not my primary concern when I am abusing drugs.