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Bong or Joint - which is better for you?

I find it very interesting that you are told at HS that bongs are better for you if you don't share, yet legislation aimed towards HR doesn't recognise this? IMO it puts bongs in the same category as syringes. The rule still applies - don't share, but if the process is preventative, it should be encouraged, not made a criminal offence IMO.

If you are worried about sharing a bong but still do it anyway, you may like to buy a bunch of isowipes. One to wipe the top with and another to cover the top of the bong as you inhale. Use a spacer to avoid making contact with the yuk alcohol. I'm not saying this is fulproof, but the accessories needed are few and they could make all the difference.

Tips on cleaning bongs:

You need;

  • 500mL container (large glass etc.)
  • 2 x Bottle Brush (1 for bong, 1 for stem)
  • Methylated Spirit (2-4 litres lasts forever even if the bong is used daily)
  • Hot water
  • Laundry tub


Simply rinse with hot water before soaking for 1-2 minutes with a small amount of methylated spirit. Shake to distribute the meths. Then use your bottle brushes to clean off the gunk. Clean in minutes. Then leave your brushes in the container, soaking in metho to clean. Use a suface polish spray with lemon around your basin, sink whatever, and you won't smell a thing.
 
Having smoked weed for over 30 years i can say that people who smoke joints experience fewer health problems than bong smokers..i think the water vapour and size of inhalation with bongs can result in many complications from pluracy to collapsed lungs..i know as these have happened to me and linked by the doctors and i'm sure they were right...i used to chew through the mull..an ounce or two of good heads a week..over the top smoking but thats what i loved/love.

Now i mainly smoke bubblehash..much cleaner and tasty smoke that works well in a vapouriser....i think the healthiest way to get high.

Cheers

MD
 
Or..... simply tell all your Stoner mates to BYO their bongs, and there's no disease spreaded, and it's not anti-social because everyone has they own bong and they just help themselves in the big bowl of mull =D

I am curious about this for "harm reduction" reasons... since it wasn't raised here....

You know in some parties people have a joint turned around and put the joint in the mouth and blow the joint out and other person is sucking the smoke that you are blowing the joint? Like almost if you are just about to kiss the blower :D

Any thoughts on this?
 
I personally prefer joints to bongs because it's a much more laid back and chilled kind of stoned. The vibe it brings about it's more of a social one with joints. The difference is like the difference between railing and injecting. They're both bad for you, they'll both get you fucked up, but one makes you feel like your taking it to have fun, and the other makes you feel like your taking it because you want to get fucked up.
Also we had the discussion that while bongs may filter out more of the nasties, when your stoned out of your brain trying to roll a joint is pretty hard work. But packing one mroe bong is just that little bit easier, so you tend to end up smoking more.

And one final quote, as Bill Hicks said;

"They tell you that marijana decreases motivation. LIES! It just makes you realise it's not worth the fucking effort."
 
joints for being social

bongs for when I want to get mashed and go to sleep

when I use a bong its pretty clean so there's less chance of me catching a cough off someone than if I was using a dirty bong.
 
Anyone ever been desperate to dry out your bong water and re-smoke your mix from the past week?
I know I have :) ! Its called old mans hash around my parts!
Not too bad if you can get over the harshness,still better than leaf but takes a few more cones that bud!
I've smoked outta bongs where the water wasn't water anymore of thick sludge!
 
^^^^ I don't ever have anything in the water to smoke.

I use a little mesh filter inside my conepiece. It means you can burn all the pot and not pull half of it through, handy when you're too wasted to regulate your inhalation for the slow burn :)

Means you don't use anywhere near as much pot (so much less wastage), and your water/bong stay HEAPS cleaner. I find it's also a lot easier to pull, because the flow is much more even as you don't have any blockages and as long as you don't force it down with your thumb then the air actually flows around the whole cone piece, not just the hole in the bottom. It's just important to blow the mesh out and keep it clean.

It has a tendancy to freak people out, and most people who use it firstly think the things completely blocked (which shits me cos dickheads are always 'stoking' the mesh through), and they don't seem to like smoking it. But, they just don't know what they're missing.

As for J's V Bongs, I'm a bong man myself for 2 reasons. 1) Like BT said, the nicotine rush and 2) you can duck out and have a bong in an ad break, J's you end up missing the first couple of minutes back :P
 
^Agree 100%.

I find most people are too accustomed to the feel of pulling through, or are just too stubborn to save weed. "Nar man, it's just not right, you've gotta pull through!".

I've also had problems where I shout someone, and they forget the gauze is just sitting on top, and spill it.

But i've got a coney with a handle on it, it's actually just a piece of metal coiled to make a cone shape (anyone who buys coneys probably knows what i'm talking about). Anyway, I trim a gauze and slide it down the coil so it's held in. Makes packing very easy and you won't have anyone spilling it.
 
hahha hot knives! ive got a kiwi who just moved in with me, and he introduced my circle of friends to 'spots'. heat the tips of two knife blades extra hot, stick a little bud in between them and breathe in that nasty nasty smoke. ahhh spots.
 
If its good skunk I like spotting it with two knives - also making an ice filter funnel out of a coke bottle heres a pic of my stupid gfx so ya get the point.. This way it is very smooth to inhale especially after a fat hit of smoke from spotting (I have gas stove so just leave the knives on that when I need a session..)

LMAO
 

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hahha hot knives! ive got a kiwi who just moved in with me, and he introduced my circle of friends to 'spots'. heat the tips of two knife blades extra hot, stick a little bud in between them and breathe in that nasty nasty smoke. ahhh spots.
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Actually the trick is not to get the knives too hot like red hot, just hot!? then slowly press on the weed to get the actual THC (you'll notice the taste difference) then press hard and youll get the rest. Yep its a kiwi thing, Ive showed more than a few people / friends on my overseas travels - it kicks ass spotting hash as you only need little amount and it hits ya hard instantly teehee, ok im off to put the knives on now :)
 
I'm going to try (probably in vain) to save this topic - but I wouldn't presume that filtering "spotting" smoke through an ice-chamber would do much for the harmful content of the smoke. Although, cooling the smoke down a little before it enters your lungs could cause some of the higher-bp gases to condense out. Since it's essentially still a smoke-inhalation method, it's probably somewhere in-between a bong and a joint.

BigTrancer :)
 
Presuming the knives aren't hot enough to burn the pot, wouldn't hot knives be second to vaporising (isn't it just a cheap way of vapourising?) in terms of least damage done/carcinogens inhaled?
 
Good point jimbu - the content of chemicals breathed in would vary with the temperature of the knives, and with the person's technique.

BT :)
 
Bongs only for me please ... joints make me cough ... like i'm smoking a cigarette, plus I find the high to be duller and you can't smoke a joint as often as you can have a cone.
 
NO, I cannot take any tobacco. Bongs all the way for me. Even a spliff will make me spin, or spew at worst!
 
Haha bong all the way, pipe's don't even do the job for me! I'm someone always looking for the peak effects of buds and I find the best way is easily bong or bucket.

There's another way which is not bad, most of you probably know it. Putting resin(hash oil) on foil and heating and and inhaling the white smoke(vapourized THC apparently). I have noticed effects from it though and I've only tried it once at a tiny dosage.
 
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