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bluelight.ru.....how safe is it?

lagger said:
theres no reason for a jump through USA first before hitting any country that would make things extremely slow and shitty
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It depends on which backbone the ISP of the host is using and which ISP you're on.

A quick tracert shows that from my box, outta my connection (which I've removed so not to incriminate myself) it actually goes to the UK and then Russia.

>tracert bluelight.ru

Tracing route to bluelight.ru [93.189.134.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

....

10 377 ms 321 ms 432 ms Gi3-0.lonth-inter-1.interoute.net [195.66.224.53]
11 370 ms 418 ms 451 ms ae2-0.lon-001-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.218.185]
12 342 ms 411 ms 369 ms ae0-0.lon-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.218.189]
13 425 ms 379 ms 415 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.57]
14 315 ms 346 ms 374 ms ge-0-2-0-22.r-sara-1.network.intermax.nl [89.202.142.226]
15 445 ms 407 ms 510 ms ae1-33.r-rix-1.network.intermax.nl [80.95.163.81]
16 355 ms 353 ms 365 ms imax1.router1.rix.slik.eu [80.95.169.126]
17 * * 519 ms aorta2.router3.rtc.slik.eu [93.189.128.194]
18 339 ms 411 ms 348 ms bluelight.slik.eu [93.189.134.5]

Trace complete.


The UK IP address is resolved (whois) to London Internet Exchange (LINX).

That's just a simple example (can't really do a lot since I'm on my Windows box atm)

As stated previously, there is no encryption being using on this site, it's straight HTTP (no SSL) so keep in mind that everything going back and forth is in plaintext.
 
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*disclaimer: I do not partake in illicit drugs, I am a 89 year old pensioner that has a passing interest in youth culture
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Lol, I'm 90 years old and I check up on the kids on the internets using the computers at the retirement village. :D
 
belarki said:
^ even while we sleep? :o

bigbrothere.jpg
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Nope, that's when I'm hands on ;)

Busty St Clare said:
Do you guys want to sell your scripts?
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Second this
 
Pft, don't bother with play scripts, it's the movie scripts that'll get you really fucked up.
 
Nothing is safe thesedays and u cant trust no one. If they wanted to they could access the IP addresses for anyone. Thats if they hand it over or the site gets infiltrated. Its not that hard. My personal opinion is that u dont have to worry too much as they have better things to do then to bust someone with a gram of weed or sumfn. I have a mate who works for the AFP so i will find out how it all works.
 
Well first the AFP would have to request the access logs from the host, this is assuming the host keeps these logs. Being that the host is overseas they cannot be forced to hand over the logs.

Then the AFP would perform a reverse DNS lookup to see which ISP the IP address is assigned to.

They would then try to have ISP to hand over the logs (court ordered since it'll be highly doubtful any ISP would voluntarily hand over this information without being forced due to privacy concerns) of which user account had said IP during said times.

Then there would need to be some proof that it was in fact the person who hold's the account who was actually on the site / posting / whatever at that time - the person's wireless might have been unsecure, a bot may have been running on the PC, it might have been a guest at the house, blah blah.

It would be very difficult to use this as evidence to convict!

The exact same situation can be applied for illegal downloading of content. Most ISP's when they receive one of these "love letters" from record labels don't/can't do anything about it. Mostly due to the fact that, as is the case with most IT laws, the law is about 10 years behind the technology.


Having said that, I agree with Sustanon - this isn't an excuse to be complacent.
 
Let's never forget ASIO/AFP's fantasticly effective and mysterious habit of "hacking" those which they want to nail hard enough. One would be naive to dream that they are truly safe on the internet...keep smokin that pipe and wait ;) Where there's a will there's a way, and they have the resources. I'm sure Mr.Ibis can alaborate :)

Unofficially, knowing intimate details of the past and also what will go down when can be VERY valuable.

Stay out of The Man's way as much as possible and go about whatever life presents you with to the upmost content.
 
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tyrael: you think ISPs keep full packet logs?
ive worked at an ISP before and the only logs kept for anything are kind of like the following format

DATE/TIME - SOURCE IP - DESTINATION IP - PROTOCOL (tcp/icmp/udp etc...) - PACKET SIZE

Even emails are not kept unless there has been abuse or spam reported and they switch a SMTP or whateva log on for a week or so to grep for spam/abuse of services
 
If you do things that the AFP really want to stop such as importing and what-not then it would be wise to not use any microsoft Windows operating systems, ever. Or wireless keyboards or old CRT monitors. Not much people think of it but there is technology to look at a CRT monitors display due the frequency it uses
 
..then again what would the hosting company of the colocated unix server bluelight is hosted on in the NL think if they looked at this site??? any one of those gateways/hops in a traceROUTE can read all information of every client/IP accessing bluelight
 
lagger said:
tyrael: you think ISPs keep full packet logs?
ive worked at an ISP before and the only logs kept for anything are kind of like the following format

DATE/TIME - SOURCE IP - DESTINATION IP - PROTOCOL (tcp/icmp/udp etc...) - PACKET SIZE

Even emails are not kept unless there has been abuse or spam reported and they switch a SMTP or whateva log on for a week or so to grep for spam/abuse of services
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Not at all! :) Most ISP don't like you said! However it is dependent on the individual ISP (especially with email re SLA's and the like).
 
lagger said:
any one of those gateways/hops in a traceROUTE can read all information of every client/IP accessing bluelight
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Clearly, (well actually no. Not according to the TCP/IP routing algorithm the hops don't have to be the safe. The whole point of the Internet :P), but they wouldn't necessarily keep the information. The end points would be the most obviously ones too. Also, in the case of my traceroute (8)) half the hops were within my ISP (since my ISP has sealinks out) and hence if the AFP wanted to get access to this side end point, it would be just as difficult to get to one of the hops in between. Anything outside was outside Australian (and hence the AFP jurisdiction)

lagger said:
traceROUTE
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And I posted "tracert" since thats the windows command.
 
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