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Bluelight didn't help me with harm reduction...

Information is information, it is up to the individual what she or she does with it. Information should not be blamed for the decline of individuals.
 
I used a lot lot more after joining bl, probably wouldn't have used many drugs or even been interested without it. However my drug knowledge is tons better than others, and it's benefited chemistry and essentially decided my future because of this, so it has actually helped me. Without bl I would have no harm reduction at all, and I doubt I would ever be interested in using opiates or benzos or basically any drugs really. Now I'm interested but know limits, understand problems that go with it and am far more aware of consequences. Without this, I would be on something at least once a week whereas at the mo it's more like once a month, including alcohol.

Joined because I was curious (still am, and experimenting) but learnt plenty of harm reduction and haven't subsequentially died from an OD.
 
The forum is good for HR but has heavy gossip on new pills whats smack is whack in your area. Spend more time in addiction section maybe?
 
since joining this forum, i have exercised HR WAAAY more than i did previously. if you're not practicing HR and you've been on this site for a decent amount of time, then the only person who is preventing you from using HR is you. You cant expect us to just magically turn you into a more responsible drug user, you have to do the majority of the work. I come here for HR, to talk about drugs with other drug addicts, and share my existing HR knowledge. I also come here when i'm on a lot of drugs and i'm bored.
 
It's all relative, kiddies.

Plus Harm Reduction does not equal abstinence. Wanting to try different drugs and knowing how to use them safely is the essence of HR...

Knowing that opiates + benzos = greater chance for respiratory depression doesn't mean that your curiosity to try DMT will be absolved...

Apples, oranges and bananas, man.
 
Why blame BL for your own choices? This site contains info on every angle of drug use that can enable or disable a user, depending on how the info is used.

I'm never going to fully stop using psychedelics, I knew that before I ever signed up here. Some drugs I have zero interest in trying while others I haven't done I'm constantly curious about. At least I can get the facts here and maybe not hurt myself.
 
be a big boy/girl and make your own decisions. at least with bl you can make informed decisions. if bl is leading you astray dont log on. imo
 
No i think bluelight in a way has made me more consiece about what i put into my body. I have learned alot of shit i didnt know before and thats a good thing. Especially with mdma i can say that if i didnt join my brain would have melted through my ears and nose.

Now its like before i use a new drug, i research the fuck out of it so i now exactly what its doing to my body and what the side effects are - thats not to say i still wont use the drug, but at least i cant bitch about fucking up because i can turn to myself and say, ya see, you shoulda followed the info and since you didnt you can only blame yerself.

And yeh it comes down to the individual. If your gonna use various drugs, at least know about them first so you can minimize harm or dumb mistakes a rookie mite make w/out knowing anything
 
i think all together BL has a positive effect. it certainly can increase curiosity, but at the same time, honest information about hard drugs, rc's, and dangerous means of administration is far more helpful to a potential drug user than the kind of bullshit scare tactic propaganda and misinformation potential drug users get from the media or other inexperienced sources
 
BL offered me a lot of tips for injection technique, dangerous combos, etc. Also the social support i got in TDS has helped me live my life now in recovery. I joined in 09 when i was into E. And now in '12 im here even more often and i dont even drink/drug anymore. The love i got from TDS which saved my life from suicide, is something i didnt get anywhere else and for that i am still grateful. Whenever i celebrate clean time and they ask how i did it, i always mention "my bluelight family" because you guys made MY life possible with the least amount of permanent damage done to myself.
 
Absolutely not, it encourages people to do more drugs.. id go as far to say that. Now im not hating on the site, because it does teach you some nice information on the drug you want to take. But there are so many triggers, and so much more temptation to use certain drugs once you know everyone's experiences on it and that your 'safe'. Because someone on the site is telling you to take 1 tab, you will be fine. Where as before reading the site you were tripping out that you may die from taking this drug, see what i mean. + the drug culture section with the thread 'how high are you' speaks for itself. Lets name all the ab usable drugs we're on so everyone can be triggered to get loaded as fuck that day. If it weren't for this site i'm sure there would be a lot less people on certain drugs, it's basically a site to make you comfortable with the drugs your using.
I should add this doesn't apply to all sections, TDS is a GREAT place with lots of kind people. E discussion use to be full of e'tards giving out horrible tips. etc.
 
F1n1shed said:
Absolutely not, it encourages people to do more drugs.. id go as far to say that. Now im not hating on the site, because it does teach you some nice information on the drug you want to take. But there are so many triggers, and so much more temptation to use certain drugs once you know everyone's experiences on it and that your 'safe'. Because someone on the site is telling you to take 1 tab, you will be fine. Where as before reading the site you were tripping out that you may die from taking this drug, see what i mean.
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I think this is more a product of lies spread by the "War on Drugs" than anything. I remember in my 6th grade class we had a D.A.R.E. officer come in and show us pictures of coke and heroin and tell us about how these drugs are so bad for you. Then one day in junior high I discover Erowid and read up on how safe these drugs really are if you take the right precautions, and I was pretty much gone from there.

Spreading the truth about the safety of drugs is a good thing. I know for me if I had known from day one that drugs aren't all that bad unless taken to extremes I wouldn't have tried to see for myself what those extremes are.
 
Browsing the site can be triggering, however you gotta take the bad with the good. There's a lot of valuable HR information on here that (IME) is very useful when dealing with contraindicated substances or ROAs. I don't inject, but because of BL I'd know how to do it safely if the situation were to ever arise.

F1n1shed said:
the drug culture section with the thread 'how high are you' speaks for itself. Lets name all the ab usable drugs we're on so everyone can be triggered to get loaded as fuck that day.
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easily the best thread on the entire website.
 
F1n1shed said:
it's basically a site to make you comfortable with the drugs your using.
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quoted for truth!
without BL i probably wouldnt have as large a stash as i have. on the other hand, i use it responsibly and one cant omit the social aspect. overall i think theres some bad with the good, as always, but this site is essential.
 
F1n1shed said:
E discussion use to be full of e'tards giving out horrible tips. etc.
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It USED to. Now it's a very harm reduction oriented forum filled with many intelligent people who give great harm reduction advice to anyone who needs it.

Even if you go in there and post something stupid like you've been rolling every week for the past 5 months.. now you'll have 10 very smart people telling them why that's not OK, and sharing stories of what happened to them after similar abuse.. where as before, you'd have 20 people telling them "YEAAAHHH playboy! get fuked on dem pillyz boiiii".

We've tried really hard to turn that shit around.



I think Bluelight is a great site. It's certainly helped me stay safe while using drugs.. I would be in a much worse place if I didn't know everything I know now. Sure, I still go on the occasional unsafe binge.. but I'm always sure to get sleep and some food in between, as HR taught me too.

If you've been abusing drugs after you got on Bluelight, it's pretty safe to assume you would still be abusing those drugs even if you didn't get on it. Maybe you would be drinking everyday instead of dropping RCs, but you're still going to find ways to get fucked up.

Bluelight is just here to help you get fucked up more safely
 
F1n1shed said:
Absolutely not, it encourages people to do more drugs.. id go as far to say that. Now im not hating on the site, because it does teach you some nice information on the drug you want to take. But there are so many triggers, and so much more temptation to use certain drugs once you know everyone's experiences on it and that your 'safe'. Because someone on the site is telling you to take 1 tab, you will be fine. Where as before reading the site you were tripping out that you may die from taking this drug, see what i mean. + the drug culture section with the thread 'how high are you' speaks for itself. Lets name all the ab usable drugs we're on so everyone can be triggered to get loaded as fuck that day. If it weren't for this site i'm sure there would be a lot less people on certain drugs, it's basically a site to make you comfortable with the drugs your using.
I should add this doesn't apply to all sections, TDS is a GREAT place with lots of kind people. E discussion use to be full of e'tards giving out horrible tips. etc.
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So what you are basically saying is that drug culture tempts you and because BL also contains drug culture and not just prevention, you have been tempted into dangerous activities. If someone wants to get f.u.b.a.r. they are going to do it with or without BL. At least here they can talk about it openly and get some safety info so they went into it with their eyes open. If you look at addiction as something that always needs curing, you're sidestepping the fact that some people have other issues that led them to addiction, and it's through being addicted that they start to figure a lot of stuff out about themselves.

Sorry, but I still think that you're shirking responsibility. It's no different than an alcoholic in recovery going into a bar, surrounding himself by people drinking or talking about the smoothest liquers, and then when he does it he regrets it. And what's your suggestion, that BL shutdown? Or that we only talk about drugs so long as we're not promoting their use? Fuck that. There are 10 million sites on the internet for that. I come here to talk to other drug users!
 
euphoricnod said:
...it further encouraged my use and curiosity in drugs.

There are many people who come to this site and get worth while information, but I'd like to know that once you have that information does the temptation to do more get stronger? Is Bluelight actually doing a public service or is it furthering the decline of individuals.

A little bit of back ground on myself. I moderated DC for a few years all the while maintaining a serious opiate addiction and finishing my bachelors. I want to hear your thoughts on this matter, is this really beneficial?
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Huh! Well what do you know? Interestingly enough, I moderate DC now, and I'm now maintaining an opiate addiction and finishing up my bachelors.

Anyway... it's my understanding that most of our members here have, at one time or another, been exposed to the scruff-mcgruff, just-say-no, all-drugs-are-bad, junior-high-health-class sort of "drug education." In other words, it's all of the information, oftentimes misleading information, aimed at frightening and turning people off from drugs.

If, for whatever reason, an individual finds that he is still interested in experimenting with mind-altering, sometimes habit-forming and addictive substances, as many of us here very clearly are, then that person will go ahead and do one of two things: he will seek out and take those substances without having any of the solid, factual, potentially life-saving information that BL believes in making widely available, or he will seek out that information first and will then make a more informed decision, choosing either to take the drug or drugs now armed with this new information, or, perhaps, even choosing not to take the drugs. We can only hope for the latter scenario, of course... as it results in what we call "harm reduction."

I can understand where one might think or believe that, after discovering this board, his or her interest in drugs increased and so this is a bad thing -- harm, in fact, and not harm-reduction; but really, it's sort of a skewed way of looking at the situation because, truth be told, you're here because you already had a growing interest in mind-altering substances whether your interest brought you here to BL or somewhere else. Right?

I mean, let's be honest... you didn't believe any of that bullshit they told you in school, and neither did any of the rest of us. You were still interested in drugs, and so were we. You wanted better, more scientific, factual information... and here it is. You might not have heard about, sought out, come across or taken any of the still somewhat-obscure research chemicals we talk about here. (Eh, you still might have...) But you might not have even made it that far were it not for a better understanding of how benzos potentiate opiates into a potentially lethal combo. Do you see what I'm getting at? And that's harm reduction, that's the good stuff, that's what we're after...

tl;dr ... yeah I drank the kool-aid and believe in harm reduction.
 
^pass me more of that life saving kool aid. I actually volunteer at the local needle exchange now XD. And im a "dirty needle using junkie" according to the old dare and scruffmgruff shit. Well in recovery now and no longer using but i got my "mark" to prove my past.
 
I hear people saying that harm reduction is increased occasionally. However, you cannot say that you guys weren't encouraged to use by coming onto Bluelight.
 
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