panic in paradise
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^oh okay, you edited someones post to read, "usually psychiatric inpatients, buffoons, and trolls".
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Nope.
[If I had done so, the footer would read "last edited by P A at somethingsomethingsomething"]
panic in paradise
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^ oh okay, you quoted them, and then edited what you did quote so that it seemed like they had posted what you had written.
that is very petty.
that is very petty.
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To anyone with a well-functioning neuron or two, it would be evident that I was systematically butchering the quote in order to make a point. As in, sarcastically. I did not for a second believe that anyone would be foolish enough to mistake the sarcastically edited quote for the real one, since it would take all of a single fucking left-click to arrive at the post in question (i.e., the post from which the quote was taken in the first place). But it would seem that you, PiP, are a very special case indeed. Hang in there, bro.
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I'm not sure what it means to have a Gemini moon? Would you mind explaining a little for me? I am highly interested. As far as Astrology goes, I am only familiar with the signs, and horoscopes, along with different compatibilities of the various signs. For example, I know it is said Gemini's and Scorpio's are least likely to be compatible, though I actually find this to be the opposite of the truth as I know a Scorpio female who I am very close with and we are quite compatible with each other.
Foreigner
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I befriended a woman who was a professional astrologer for 30+ years and learned from her. I originally tried to read books and websites on the subject but it didn't make sense to me until I had someone break it down. I find astrology very useful. It's interpretive and non-specific, but it can give you a general idea of what is about to happen. I've used it to divine the ease of my travel days, of signing contracts and business deals, for relationships, etc. I know which days I should avoid certain things on.
I'm the kind of person who seeks knowledge everywhere, from science, religion, ancient culture, philosophy, the arts, etc. Just because astrology does not follow the modern empirical materialist standard does not mean it lacks validity. Like any philosophy, it's going to be interpretive. However, it does have physical applications in the night sky. For example, where I am in the world Jupiter is currently visible in the night sky after about 9-10pm. Knowing that Jupiter is currently in Gemini, I can see that the Moon is in Pisces just by comparing the two locations and transposing the astrological wheel onto the night sky. I can also tell what is trining, squaring, or conjuncting based on this as well.
The average ancient scholar knew the cycles of the Moon and the movements of the closest planets, and the very ancient people like the Egyptians, Mayans, Sumerians, etc. had advanced cosmological knowledge that dwarfs even our own understanding. Ancient peoples relied on the sky way more than modern people do. A lot of modern people don't even notice the Moon or its phases. People hardly ever look up, but the ancient people did all the time. They used it to understand cycles of time, so it's only natural that they would also start charting patterns of life based on what is happening in the sky. Although interpretation is abstract, the general properties of each planet were arrived at through empirical observation.
I always encourage people to do their own personal analysis of the kinds of things that happen in their life based on the moon cycles. They always notice patterns.
Here is a good example. In western astrology, the ancient people knew that Aries (which is ruled by Mars), governs directed action, the male principle, aggression, explosion, hostility, determination, etc. The planet Uranus (whose ruling sign is Aquarius) governs rebellion, revelations, the unusual, the original, hidden knowledge, and chaos that reveals. Last year when Uranus entered Aries for the first time, the Japanese earthquake and tsunami happened. Simultaneously, they discovered the likely location of the ancient continent of Atlantis off the coast of Spain, and that an ancient tsunami capable of leveling a continent had occurred.
Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4207246...y-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.UGXEgK6QRUE
Pluto is currently transiting through Capricorn. Pluto is the planet of transformation, but on the deepest most radical levels. Capricorn represents traditional order, hierarchy, and authority. As pluto transits Capricorn, we are experiencing world-wide rebellions and discontent against the current paradigm of government and corporate powers. Since Pluto stays in each sign for about 22 years, we can expect world power to look a lot different at the end of Pluto's current cycle, one way or another.
I believe in astrology. I also believe in science. There are times when a scientific mind is required and there are times when it isn't. Knowing when to engage the logical mind and when to engage the intuitive/abstract mind is important. If all you know how to do is be logical, then your abstract mind needs work, and vice versa. The two hemispheres are complimentary, not opposed. There is truth to be found in everything.
And if you think world leaders and governments don't also use astrologers and psychics just as they use scientists, then you're crazy. Every U.S. President since Nixon has had a personal astrologer ASSIGNED TO THEM when they came into office, the most publicly recognized of whom is Joan Quigley that served Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. (Although, in that case Reagan and his wife nancy selected her, she was not chosen for them.) From what declassified documents that are accessible to the public, most of the major world governments, including Russia and the U.S., employ psychics in their intelligence services.
I'm the kind of person who seeks knowledge everywhere, from science, religion, ancient culture, philosophy, the arts, etc. Just because astrology does not follow the modern empirical materialist standard does not mean it lacks validity. Like any philosophy, it's going to be interpretive. However, it does have physical applications in the night sky. For example, where I am in the world Jupiter is currently visible in the night sky after about 9-10pm. Knowing that Jupiter is currently in Gemini, I can see that the Moon is in Pisces just by comparing the two locations and transposing the astrological wheel onto the night sky. I can also tell what is trining, squaring, or conjuncting based on this as well.
The average ancient scholar knew the cycles of the Moon and the movements of the closest planets, and the very ancient people like the Egyptians, Mayans, Sumerians, etc. had advanced cosmological knowledge that dwarfs even our own understanding. Ancient peoples relied on the sky way more than modern people do. A lot of modern people don't even notice the Moon or its phases. People hardly ever look up, but the ancient people did all the time. They used it to understand cycles of time, so it's only natural that they would also start charting patterns of life based on what is happening in the sky. Although interpretation is abstract, the general properties of each planet were arrived at through empirical observation.
I always encourage people to do their own personal analysis of the kinds of things that happen in their life based on the moon cycles. They always notice patterns.
Here is a good example. In western astrology, the ancient people knew that Aries (which is ruled by Mars), governs directed action, the male principle, aggression, explosion, hostility, determination, etc. The planet Uranus (whose ruling sign is Aquarius) governs rebellion, revelations, the unusual, the original, hidden knowledge, and chaos that reveals. Last year when Uranus entered Aries for the first time, the Japanese earthquake and tsunami happened. Simultaneously, they discovered the likely location of the ancient continent of Atlantis off the coast of Spain, and that an ancient tsunami capable of leveling a continent had occurred.
Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4207246...y-atlantis-believed-found-spain/#.UGXEgK6QRUE
Pluto is currently transiting through Capricorn. Pluto is the planet of transformation, but on the deepest most radical levels. Capricorn represents traditional order, hierarchy, and authority. As pluto transits Capricorn, we are experiencing world-wide rebellions and discontent against the current paradigm of government and corporate powers. Since Pluto stays in each sign for about 22 years, we can expect world power to look a lot different at the end of Pluto's current cycle, one way or another.
I believe in astrology. I also believe in science. There are times when a scientific mind is required and there are times when it isn't. Knowing when to engage the logical mind and when to engage the intuitive/abstract mind is important. If all you know how to do is be logical, then your abstract mind needs work, and vice versa. The two hemispheres are complimentary, not opposed. There is truth to be found in everything.
And if you think world leaders and governments don't also use astrologers and psychics just as they use scientists, then you're crazy. Every U.S. President since Nixon has had a personal astrologer ASSIGNED TO THEM when they came into office, the most publicly recognized of whom is Joan Quigley that served Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. (Although, in that case Reagan and his wife nancy selected her, she was not chosen for them.) From what declassified documents that are accessible to the public, most of the major world governments, including Russia and the U.S., employ psychics in their intelligence services.
Foreigner
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It means that when you were born, the Moon was in the Gemini portion of the astrological wheel. The signs you read about in newspapers are Sun signs, meaning that the Sun was in that sign when you were born. The Sun governs your fate in this life, what you are here to do, and what you are really like at your core. What house your Sun is in can also shed light on that (there are 12 houses and each governs different aspects of life). The Moon tends to govern the emotions and the unconscious mind. People with Moon in Gemini are inquisitive, curious, fun and pleasant to be around. They tend to have a more rational view of their emotions, and because Gemini is an Air sign (which governs the mental), it can be hard for a Gemini-Moon person to stop analyzing the way they feel and just let the feeling run its course. Gemini's symbol is the twins. The twins are opposites, which means Gemini-Moon people can also be moody. On one hand they are a joy to be around and on the other hand they can get irritable fast.
Of course, this is all very general. I would have to see your chart because you might have other planets aspecting your Moon, which would give even more precise information about what affects your emotional state.
Sign compatibilities, in general, are done by comparing only Sun signs, but in reality every person has a unique astrological chart with different planetary arrangements based on when, where and what time they were born. For example, I am a Capricorn (Sun sign), but half of the planets in my chart are in water signs. Capricorns are traditionally quite reserved, conservative, enterprising, determined, and prone to rigidity; but because of all the water in my chart, I much more mutable, adaptable, and go with the flow. Capricorns and Cancers are opposite signs so they are not supposed to get along, but because I have a lot of water in my chart, I can get along with Cancers quite well.
Just because Scorpio and Gemini are opposites does not mean they won't get along. Those two people could have planets in their chart that are aspecting favourably and create a harmonious relationship. As a Capricorn, I'm supposed to be most compatible with other Earth signs like Virgo and Taurus, but every relationship I've had with a Taurus has ended explosively and vengefully (on their part) -- and my parents are both Virgos who tend to go off the deep end, hence my moving to the other side of the country to get away from them!
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The moon is ruled by Cancer (water sign) in my experience (depending on aspects) a moon in Gemini can make you analyze your feelings more then actually feel them; it can also cause you to be fickle with your emotions, rapidly changing between the polar spectrum.. The sign of Gemini focus's in on the details of a given situation, whereas its opposite Sagittarius (ruled by Jupiter) skips the details and is able to see the big picture.
I have a lot of Gemini in my chart, Ascendant, Moon, Mercury and Jupiter.. all in the first house and all three planets tightly conjunct. The conjunction creates a blending of the energies.. my emotions (moon) are very much intertwined with my thought processes and communication (mercury) with an emphasis on expansion (Jupiter) which is typically expressed through writing and communication (First House: Self Expression [Gemini]).
Which is why I'm always posting a lot of shit in the philosophy forum lol. That's my rather crude interpretation of a small part of my chart involving Gemini, I still don't know it well enough to go into more detail.
Yeah it can depend on where the other planets are located, which signs, which houses and what aspects there making to each other. As a general rule water and air don't mix well, same as fire and earth; two are masculine signs and two are feminine, introvert and extrovert if you will.. but it can all depend on the aspects and placements with regards to how well they connect.
I don't take astrology too seriously, although this post would suggest otherwise haha; I just find it fascinating to know the details (Gemini) of everything related to the expansion (Jupiter) of the self (First House)
This is all very interesting stuff. I understand it's all generally broad and subjective with how one can interpret and apply these findings to their own life, but regardless it's fascinating to know. How does one go about knowing where their planets are located? For example, how do I know where my Sun and Moon are located and how they apply to my sign?
malakaix
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Goto astro.com.
Look down the left hand side and select free horoscopes then Horoscope drawings and clavukations then click extended Chart Selection'. Select 'whole signs' for the house system., some people use different house systems but whole signs is the easiest for getting a sense of the houses.
Then click 'draw aspect lines to all' box.
Then click the show chart button.
Look down the left hand side and select free horoscopes then Horoscope drawings and clavukations then click extended Chart Selection'. Select 'whole signs' for the house system., some people use different house systems but whole signs is the easiest for getting a sense of the houses.
Then click 'draw aspect lines to all' box.
Then click the show chart button.
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Foreigner
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^ This.
It will give you a generated report which IMO isn't as good as someone sitting with you and helping you to interpret it, but it will give you a good overview!
It will give you a generated report which IMO isn't as good as someone sitting with you and helping you to interpret it, but it will give you a good overview!
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Sure thing, man.
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If you believe in astrology, and you've lived your life based on your Zodiac sign . . . you may have been living a LIE.
Astronomers in Minnesota took the zodiac and adapted it based on the way the Earth's axis was shifted during the Babylonian period, when it was created. That threw off all of the dates when the sun is in each zodiac constellation's "house."
So . . . if you want to believe today's scientists, here's the way that Zodiac signs are ACTUALLY supposed to break down . . .
Capricorn: January 20th to February 16th.
Aquarius: February 16th to March 11th.
Pisces: March 11th to April 18th.
Aries: April 18th to May 13th.
Taurus: May 13th to June 21st.
Gemini: June 21st to July 20th.
Cancer: July 20th to August 10th.
Leo: August 10th to September 16th.
Virgo: September 16th to October 30th.
Libra: October 30th to November 23rd.
Scorpio: November 23rd to December 17th.
Sagittarius: December 17th to January 20th.
Astronomers in Minnesota took the zodiac and adapted it based on the way the Earth's axis was shifted during the Babylonian period, when it was created. That threw off all of the dates when the sun is in each zodiac constellation's "house."
So . . . if you want to believe today's scientists, here's the way that Zodiac signs are ACTUALLY supposed to break down . . .
Capricorn: January 20th to February 16th.
Aquarius: February 16th to March 11th.
Pisces: March 11th to April 18th.
Aries: April 18th to May 13th.
Taurus: May 13th to June 21st.
Gemini: June 21st to July 20th.
Cancer: July 20th to August 10th.
Leo: August 10th to September 16th.
Virgo: September 16th to October 30th.
Libra: October 30th to November 23rd.
Scorpio: November 23rd to December 17th.
Sagittarius: December 17th to January 20th.
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Isn't that sidereal?
"While classical tropical astrology is based on the orientation of the Earth relative to the Sun and planets of the solar system, sidereal astrology deals with the position of the Earth relative to both of these as well as the stars of the celestial sphere"
I remember this coming up recently but those dates have been used for sidereal for a long time, I don't know enough about it to comment, maybe someone else can
"While classical tropical astrology is based on the orientation of the Earth relative to the Sun and planets of the solar system, sidereal astrology deals with the position of the Earth relative to both of these as well as the stars of the celestial sphere"
I remember this coming up recently but those dates have been used for sidereal for a long time, I don't know enough about it to comment, maybe someone else can
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I don't think it really matters at all because it is all so vague and so many sweeping generalizations are made that individuals interpret it all to fit with their own agenda and thus re-enforce their already existing beliefs,It seems to me that it is just really a comfort blanket, it's not factual in any way.
This is all OK, it's no different than some peoples irrational interpretation of religious theologies, if it makes people happy then truth is a luxury that is unnecessary and concepts like truth and meaning are slippery at the best of times anyway.
This is all OK, it's no different than some peoples irrational interpretation of religious theologies, if it makes people happy then truth is a luxury that is unnecessary and concepts like truth and meaning are slippery at the best of times anyway.
Foreigner
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This has been debunked by most astrologers. No one cares what the Minnesota person says and nothing has changed in the practice.
There's also no way I'm a Sagittarius. Nothing in my personality denotes that.
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