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I dont snob anyone. im always happy to meet new people, bluelighters or not. Yes I have seen it happen, but it happens all the time with or without bluelighters.
*shrugs*
 
Pleonastic- please not use of the word APPEAR in my post. I am not necessarily saying BLers are more interesting, just to some people they may seem like they are especially if they have never met BLers before. Myself as i am only new to meeting BLers it is interesting to put a name to a face, but there are heaps of other interesting people i meet all the time who rnt BLers... thats only coz i tend to talk to everyone in the club or woteva most nights :)
 
Prior to joining BL I went to a party at psychokittens and basically thats wot I encountered as well. Wasnt too impressed and totally felt like the odd one out.
It didnt stop me from joining, but all I wanna say is why so elitist?
 
I'm really sorry to say, but bluelighters are just people like everyone else. There are the same proportion of assholes, psychotics, insecure wankers, complete twats, gits and hypocrites among us as in ordinary rave society.
Anyway that's my 2 cents worth.
-plaz out-
 
:) By the way, from now on i am going to attempt to say "Hi, wots ur name" instead of "Hi, you a BLer???" And if BL comes up ill then ask if they have a BL name :) And anyways my BL name sux so why would i want to use that to introduce maself??? :)
On topic just because someone is not a BLer it does not mean they are not interesting. Infact they may be more interesting than all us so called 'nerds' he he!!! I must admit, with some BLers it is difficult to get past the drug talk unless you see the people outside events or on a regular basis. Anyways i just like to meet people, so anyone, BLer or not will do :) Well not anyone i guess :)
 
Im sorry for being an elitist cunt. I promise next time i will try to be more social and less of a selfish prick.
 
ive seen many bluelighters totally remove their interest in a person once thet find out theyre not bluelighters, and some of both partys have been friends....
its kind of sad. it makes me think that when a bluelighter meets someone they are excited about chatting about their similarities, ie usually music, raves, clubs, drugs, the net blah blah blah. but when they find out theyre not a bluelighter, that excitement disappears because they cant be bothered finding out if that person does have any similarities.
if youre a bluelighter, its kind of unspoken that youre cool with drugs, music, clubs etc - people feel quite at home amongst each other with minimal effort.
for some bluelighters, meeting totally new people, ie people who you have no idea about, just must be too difficult.
 
hey all
personnaly i have to say that this sort of discrimination is rampant in all rave communites
i am from albury and even though it is a small scene, and should be fairly close nit until recently unless you were part of the inner circle of ravers you could clearly see that you were a freak or an outcast among them
this fucking sucks because i think everyone should be open and friendly and not judge them because they are a "bluelighter" in this instance or part of the click if ya know what i mean
 
When i'm out im always willing to chat to people bluelighter or not. I guess its easier to start conversation with bluelighters that you meet out then someone else because you already have that "link" so to say. The drugs topic normaly always comes up in the first five minutes and if it continues for too long the convo normally ends quickly. Ive only met a few bluelighters and i must say that ive had some wonderful convos with them about all aspects. I love meeting new people who arent apart of bluelight too. I find it facinating about how much you really do learn about others while out and making good convo and you can make some great friends.
I think the problem in this situation was that everybody got hyped up for the occasion and probably very much looking foreward to putting a face to the name that when they came in contact with the non-bluelighters they hurried off cos their priorities was to meet more b'lighters then to sit and chat to them.
Some people try and keep their everyday friends and their b'lighter friends seperate so maybe theres another reason why some may snob the outsider off in a situation.
I had more to go on about but ive lost my train of thought.. Older B'lighters, please dont forget you were once new too so maybe try and meet a few newbies every now and then. Also this isnt an elite club... its about harm minimisation so shouldnt we spread the word. I feel we owe bluelight that much for what it has given us.
[ 17 April 2002: Message edited by: Schwoop ]
 
hmmm, so agree with u horsey. Alot of my friend's ripped me off saying i was a total geek blah blah.
it's funny though now because most of them read it and have joined!
Admittedly i kind of avoid some BL's if i see them out because i get a really elitist, snobby vibe from them. However, i have met some really decent people that i do enjoy seeing out and shall always say hi to... heya meloncholic, cutiful, dancin babe and chuppa chup
yeah. that's it.
 
Newsflash: Bluelight is a DRUG INFORMATION RESOURCE... if you can't talk openly and honestly about drugs to Bluelight members, then who CAN you talk about drugs to?
Maybe someone who finds out you're a Bluelight member wants your point of view on a drug issue they are curious about? Maybe they respect your opinion because you identify yourself with Bluelight and therefore supposedly are 'in the know' on the usually-taboo subject of illegal drugs? Maybe they want to learn from your experiences or mistakes?
If you don't want to talk about drugs, then you might as well not call yourself a "Bluelighter" because that's what Bluelight is all about... Go find some other 'rave' message board thats 'all about the music' if conversation about drugs intimidates you or makes you feel uneasy.
I realise that Bluelight is no longer 'all about the drugs' just as much as the so-called rave scene is no longer 'all about the music'. But, for goodness sake, don't try to undermine what Bluelight stands for just to make yourselves feel better about spending so many hours online involved with an information site whose purpose for existence is based solely on... DRUGS.
BigTrancer :)
 
Ooooh, I've been waiting for this for a while!
Okies, well, I joined Bluelight about the same time as Tars (June 2000 I think it was).
It was all very exciting and new. Whenever a meetup was organised at a party (or the like), everyone used to get together nad generally have a ball. Drugs or no drugs.
Then I strayed away from Bluelight for about a year. Didn't go to any meetups, didn't post, didn't get involved in the "social" side of it all.
Now that I'm back, I have made an attempt to try and get back into the social side of it all - and let me tell you it is fucking hard.
Everyone has formed these little groups, and sorry if I offend here, they seem a little elitest to me.
It's not that people are snobby - far from it. You just get the feeling that you are an outsider and could never be part of it, even if you wanted to. Especially if you are a more shy and quiet person (like myself).
I don't know about anyone else, but the whole reason I started going out and started going to the Bluelight social things was get involved, meet people/friends with similar interests, have fun, and bascially gain a feeling of belonging.
Sorry, but it is very very VERY fucking difficult to do the way things are these days...
My $5
Dan
 
I met most of the BLers I know at TT2002 when I was not yet a BLer - even then they remained friendly and did not have any of the 'elitist' snobbery (?!) some non-BLers may have experienced.
True, I was a little intimidated initially because at the meetup it was like almost everyone knew everyone, but that feeling was overcome immediately once I was introduced :) ;
I'm lucky I guess - the BLers I know are great people...
[the only thing that sucks - I'm leaving so soon :( ]
 
but Dan...it's not cause we are more snobbish, but rather the Melb crew has gotten so large that it's broken up into small groups of close friends or 'crews'. I've noticed it too. You and I Dan, are also a bit older and these young whipper snappers don't respect us. ;)
 
I joined BL in September 2001 through K9. And I found that originally people were a little wary of me not being a recognised old school BLer and with good reason. People forget sometimes how easily it could be for someone to infiltrate the group. I mean the P$%^&@ so for womeone to be at a meet up party for the first time, then it is understandable to be weary. Whilst I do meet people outside of BL at BL parties, as anyone will tell you at HIjinxs farewell. I feel comfortable with BLers because I went with the idea of going to a BL party. At Raves I meet heaps of people. BLer and not, but I love to meet BLers because I feel we have something in common, because lets face it, we are one of a very small group of people who are actually smart wih substance use.
If I go to a BL party I want to meet BLers its jsut like if you go to a sports match you feel an element of solidarity with supporters of your team. I wont purposely snub someone at a BL party or meet-up. But I will go out of my way to meet as many BLers as I possibly can.
It is also true that BL especially Sydney is fragmented. But thats natural, we are all still part of BL Australia, which is a part of The Global Bluelight. So lets not get caught up in people having their own crews within BL. The problem is when those groups start becoming elitist or antagonistic to other groups.
And lets remember at the end of the day we are all jsut people, no matter if you take stuff or not, whether you have been in BL for long or not, or not at all. So lets keep it together and just chill and have peace amongst us all
 
Plaz: "There are the same proportion of assholes, psychotics, insecure wankers, complete twats, gits and hypocrites among us as in ordinary rave society"
Oi, you forgot dickhedz !!!
Why do I feel like I am always being put out of the picture ???
(sob, sob, sob)
 
*nods to Decimal Dan* I know how you feel. I went away for 2 or 3 months and when I came back
there was all these new people I don't know.
This, is a clear example of Bluelight Politics. Everyone's got different views on what being
part of bluelight is. I joined the second time under the name 'CrimsonQueen' last year in
August. At first it was all new and exciting and I felt proud and a real sense of belonging,
I too, ask questions like: 'Are you a bluelighter?' at parties and clubs or whatever and I am ashamed to admit that most times I looked down or turned away upon the answer no.
I just felt it was not worthy of conversation, I'm shy alone enough with people I know,
I guess knowing someone is a BLer is some kind of comfort, you both know what is being
a bluelighter, we all had some common views.
Melbourne BL is getting bigger, that's the thing that never fails to awed me: The sheer size
of Bluelight. If we're not talking to people outside BL at a party because of insecurity
or shyness, that's understandable. However, if it's because you think you are are above
all others because you are a bluelighter or for snobby reasons, you really should be
ashshamed of yourself.
 
Lol... This thread is the funniest thread ive read on here for a long long time..
I love this board, Ive learnt alot and respect the opinion of alot of people who come here..
But at the end of the day this is a web board and only that.
Get over it...
 
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