Blood money

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Last night I snorted a long line of meth about an hour later I snorted another one, except on the second I pulled the Washington out of my nose and half of it was crimson. I checked my nose in the mirror and saw it was bleeding pretty heavily, is this a problem will? Does this mean there's something wrong?

 

[Tryptamite]

Don't use money to snort drugs. It is not hygienic and could carry the risk of hepatitis c transmission if you were unlucky.

Apart from that I'd say its just the meth irritating you mucus membranes.

 

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Alright, thanks for that information. But what do you suppose I use instead of said money

 

[Tryptamite]

Ordinary notebook paper. Glossy magazine paper. A flyer from a club or restaurant. Anything really.

 

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Ok thanks ill try that stuff

 

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Well I prefer to snort it, last time I smoked it I didn't very much like the high it gave me almost too intense. From my understanding each way of consuming meth has a different high and different effects

 

[Cruel Intentions]

Well I prefer to snort it, last time I smoked it I didn't very much like the high it gave me almost too intense. From my understanding each way of consuming meth has a different high and different effects

Out of interest do you get crystal? Is that what you snort? Or do you crush pills, like yaba? I'm intrigued.

 

[pasha]

It's normal. Insufflating drugs can corrode the nasal membranes in the nasal passage until you hit a blood vessel, and then the bleeding starts. If it's a larger chunk, it's more likely to corrode the nasal linings quicker.

Grind your stuff into fine powder to mitigate the chances of a nose bleed.

 

[Venrak]

^This.

Also, I can't stress enough how you should treat your snorting device like a syringe; use a fresh one every time, and never share.

 

[Cruel Intentions]

While insufflating many drugs does corrode the nasal passage to the point of bleeding, people should NOT be snorting crystal meth. Pills, yeah ok. I'll assume this dude is talking about pills. But how would someone smoke pills, unless it was yaba or something similar?...you can't smoke 5mg dextroamphetamine pills or adderall....don't try. Or did you smoke crystal and not like it, and then go back to snorting pills? That's odd for someone who enjoys the drug itself.

However, I'll take OP's word for it.

 

[Venrak]

Insufflation is a viable ROA for methamphetamine.

I don't understand your logic; you say that insufflating a relatively pure water-soluble drug is worse than getting 40-50mg of m-amp along with 250mg or so inactive fillers and binders, most likely not soluble in water. Not only does it impede absorption of the drug, these things deposit themselves on your mucous membranes until enough mucous is produced to clear them. This is a big source of congestion and sinus infections.

People take their drugs in different ways. I always used to take my methamphetamine via insufflation, then moved on to oral admin, and then primarily rectal admin along with oral when I didn't have the privacy.

People are different, and we all change and are at different points in their lives.

 

[sonicwhite]

YES! don't take it lightly either. Meth will catch up with you. Every dug has it's turning point....And will turn on you. Simply what you asking is. Can I still snort? Well sure...You can but you run the risk of that happening more....Since I no longer use hardcore drugs I say this to save you the pain and anguish I have been thru. I loved meth when I used it but I kept pushing the envolope and went thru a massive psychosis that has left me scared for like. Atleast I wasn't one of those ppl that have shake and bake blow up in there face and then have charges and jail time......

 

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Well I usually just get it in powder form from. I have smoked the crystal form, yes. And yes I also use other crushed amphetamine pills or I will take amphetamine capsules apart and snort that stuff

I smoke crystal and didn't like it, I would never smoke a pill

 

[Cruel Intentions]

Insufflation is a viable ROA for methamphetamine.

I don't understand your logic; you say that insufflating a relatively pure water-soluble drug is worse than getting 40-50mg of m-amp along with 250mg or so inactive fillers and binders, most likely not soluble in water. Not only does it impede absorption of the drug, these things deposit themselves on your mucous membranes until enough mucous is produced to clear them. This is a big source of congestion and sinus infections.

People take their drugs in different ways. I always used to take my methamphetamine via insufflation, then moved on to oral admin, and then primarily rectal admin along with oral when I didn't have the privacy.

People are different, and we all change and are at different points in their lives.

I get your point. I will clarify my reasoning, even though i don't really want to talk about it:

manufacturing meth is done in a few different ways. There are nearly always left over by products, such as HCl, H2SO4, red phosphorus, lithium, NaOH… There is often some left over ephedrine HCl (highly corrosive in presence of water), which reacts with water to form H+ ions which corrode your nose further. This is in addition to requiring water to wash meth crystals out of your nose that don't dissolve, and the bleeding from the angular, sub-angular, granular shape of the particles (crushed properly, I hope) in your nose after snorting. The meth running down the back of your throat ends up in your mouth and rots your teeth.

Yaba (meth pills): are produced in Asian countries, often smoked on foil (which forms a blackish liquid), or snorted. The other powders/fillers/binders have the same effect as that of cutting up amphetamine base with glucose - it decreases the corrosion on the nasal passage. Somewhat similar to snorting an ecstasy pill over snorting pure MDMA.

Dexamphetamines (5mg pills): While you needs about 5 to feel anything from snorting these, the effect of fillers is similar to what i mentioned above, although there are more. I actually don't recommend snorting these at all. (nor smoking). Just take them orally. The particle nature is also bad for the nose.

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I could go on, but I hope you get my drift.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Well I prefer to snort it, last time I smoked it I didn't very much like the high it gave me almost too intense. From my understanding each way of consuming meth has a different high and different effects

exactly@!!!!the faster ROA u use, the faster the drugs effects will wear off. Snorting amphetamines are a totally opposite feeling u get when taking orally, for me, when i snort, im TWEAKED for like 40mins only, and it feels too cocainish for some reason, i use amphetamines because it produces such a more positive, empaty, and lovey feelings of happiness, cocaine im tunnel vision, zombie, and feigning, and snorting amphetamines makes me feel like that, so screw it- i rather take a few addys orally and be high for hours, VS snorting it and going thru a whole bottle in 24hrs. Rectally gve u all the benefits as oral even better. im not familiar with meth, so i cant speak on it, but i know well enough about how it works considering addys, and-amph is roughly 3/4 strong is meth, and the same family of drugs, very close relatives

 

[pasha]

I get your point. I will clarify my reasoning, even though i don't really want to talk about it:

Thank you for your precious time. Might I ask why you don't want to talk about it?

The meth running down the back of your throat ends up in your mouth and rots your teeth.

H+ ions which corrode your nose further.

glucose - it decreases the corrosion on the nasal passage.

There are nearly always left over by products, such as HCl, H2SO4, red phosphorus, lithium, NaOH… There is often some left over ephedrine HCl (highly corrosive in presence of water)

I like your post, but I'd love to confirm everything you say is correct. Do you have any sources for these quotes, and your entire post in general?

Much appreciated.

 

[opiatekrzy]

instead of using money, get one of them wide straws at mcdonalds. i was watching a documentary, Drugs Inc, and they reported that in England rougly 90% of the money has cocaine traces on it...thats crazy

 

[Cruel Intentions]

Thank you for your precious time. Might I ask why you don't want to talk about it?

LOL. You're welcome. You might ask, but I might not answer...

The meth running down the back of your throat ends up in your mouth and rots your teeth.

My experience says it tastes like crap. Furthermore, it causes hypo-salivation.
http://medicine.utah.edu/internalmedicine/infectiousdiseases/uaetc/resources/meth_mouth07.pdf
http://www.cda-adc.ca/jcda/vol-71/issue-10/759.pdf

H+ ions which corrode your nose further.

H+ ions are formed in liquid by dissociation of compounds into aqueous form, this is what makes them an acid.

glucose - it decreases the corrosion on the nasal passage.

Experience. Snorting amphetamine base causes corrosion, burning etc...it's usually impossible to snort amphetamine base anyway because when it is made, there is water mixed into it making it gluggy, it is then put in the freezer until it is cut/sold as is. Glucose cut into an amphetamine mix decreases this issue. Amphetamine is not methamphetamine.

There are nearly always left over by products, such as HCl, H2SO4, red phosphorus, lithium, NaOH… There is often some left over ephedrine HCl (highly corrosive in presence of water)

Chemistry.

Much appreciated.

No worries.

 

[His Name Is Frank]

Alright, thanks for that information. But what do you suppose I use instead of said money

A cut straw works nicely. Hell, you can get free straws in any fast food lobby. Meth is a nasty drug, though and insufflating it isn't doing your nasal passages, or your entire body for that matter, any favors. Flush that shit. I doubt my advice will reach someone who has dubbed himself METHAMPHEDMAN, but it's worth a shot.

 

[METHAMPHEDAMAN]

Hey, thanks. I know it's a nasty drug and it seems like everyone has said that snorting it is very bad for the nasal, I think I'm going to at least try a few different methods for the intake of the drug before I feel like I can actually quit doing meth for life