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black tar smoke

shruuuuuuuuzzz

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took 4mg alpraz(xanax) about 1 hour ago. and 4mg gets me sorta loopy. not average dose.

I was wondering how long after I should wait before smoking black tar.

dont wanna mess with the benzo/opiate combo.
 
this mite help. im male
130 lbs
fairly high benzo tolerance
black tolerance not so high. only been smoking for about half a year 1-3 times everday. no needle
 
Do NOT take the black tar until you feel the xanax has completely run its course (I would say you need to wait at least 5 hours).

If you just took .5 or 1mg I wouldn't be too worried about it, but you said you took 4mg and are feeling loopy and that this is a larger dose then you usually take. You do not want to be taking heroin while still under a heavy dose of xanax. Just play it safe and wait until you feel back to baseline, and even then, start with a lower dose of tar then you normally would. -DG
 
how harmful is this combo.

smoking black with a little lower then mediate tolerance or howlong should i wait til after the benzo high
and then mixing it with 4mg alprazolem(xanax)

my alpraz tolerance isnt to high anymore sinec ive been off but i can take 2 mg and feel normal or nothing.

any help!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


140 lbs
17 yrs old
male
 
I'm a little fuzzy on what exactly you're asking, but I think you mean how much BTH can you smoke in combination with xanax? Smoking it is safer than snorting, or other ROA because you can tell how high you're getting. With your 'tolerance' I'd say no more than .2-.3/gram max.
 
dam alrite because its been 2 hours so far. on 4mg
and i have these colorful balloons sitting in front of me and im too stoked to smoke them because my sub has wore out.
 
k well i took my 4mg alpraz at 9 o clock
smoked a few bowls of weed about 12:00

got some baloons and im wondering if ill be fine smoking them now. not a heavy dose*
been 4 hours now.
 
thanks trigeminal.

so do you think taking 4mg at 9am and then taking my first smoking dose of black at 2
I should still wait alot? when I feel not tooo " fucked up" off the bars/ but i feel a lil unusual.
 
I assume you're asking if it's dangerous to be on xanax already, then to wait some x number of hours before you take more xanax, along with smoking some tack har bleroin?

If your tolerance to Xanax is so high that a whole xan-bar (2mg) feels very mild to you...
Well.....then you, my friend, are no longer an earth-based human.
You are now what I refer to as....a XANAXTRONAUT!! Feel free to use the term.

Well, it's never a "good idea" to mix benzo's and hack blar teroin.. But there are many out there who utilize the sleep-assisting effects of any given benzo, to aid in sleeping after some a night of using black (it can cause insomnia in many). If your tolerance to the black is "a little lower than mediate" - which I assume means medium-low, then you should probably avoid the Xanax - if you're set on smoking black.

You, like anyone else, can slowly-but-surely figure out your tolerance/personal limits, when it comes to these things. Just make sure you take your time, and be careful - also, make sure you have someone with you, to watch you in case anything happens.
 
well trigeminal. thanks for response i apprecaite it alot.
what do you consider low tolerance? because I would say mines pretty low compared to pople on here

my last H spree went from 4 months to smoking it 2-4 times a day

male
130 lbs
17 yrs old

I took the 4mg alpraz 9 a.m.) which has been 7 hours ago and I just smoked a baloon 10 minutes ago and
I feel like i have a alpraz high but more sedative and intense. maybe becuase of the heorin i just smoked, but before I smoked i didnt feel the alpraz symptoms to strong, almost none, until i hit the black.


any suggestions?
 
<Mod note- This post contains poor advice that goes against the harm reduction spirit of Bluelight! Please, everyone, use common sense... Use caution when giving recommendations and be informed about what you are discussing! -BollWeevil>

SIMPLE ANSWER!!!!!!: YES YOU WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FINE. i WOULD TAKE A BAR FIRST THEN SMOKE HALF HOUR LATER. THEN TAKE THE OTHER BAR DURING THE SMOKING SESSION AND REMEMBER THAT THOUGH REALLY GOOD INTENSE RUSH IT ONLY LASTS 15 MINUTES TO A HOUR WITH VERY SMALL RESIDUAL EFFECTS WITH THE H SO YOU WILL HAVE TO SMOKE OFTEN. SHOULDN'T BE A PROB IF YOU HAVE BNEZO TOLERANCE BUT IF NODDING FROM XANAX GOING TO BE HARD TO KEEP REDOSING TO BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

BLACK TAR PASSING AS OPIUM: only smoked black tar ( no other ROA cause barely available in chiago through my connects, usually on the north side like logan square) probally 4 times maybe three cause one time was supposed opium but was totally incense (dhami or dahxi whoomp or what ever those flavors are of that sweet black incense.) laced with BTH. As for that (fake opium) there has been ALOT of people doing that since i started doing drugs at 18 in feb 1998, second semester senior year and remained an honor
studen d to the point that that semester was 5 As and one B ibn a boring math class on impracitcal things would never use, of people trying to sell dragons blood as red rock and those "WHOOMPS" as black tar opium and you CAN tell cause its way to sweet smelling and tasting year REAL opium tastes very p[lant like and more of an aquired taste that i dont think many peioplke try enough times in america ( it comes in shifts of being dry for up to year or two and then if you know the right people it will be around for up to a few months by the ten the gram the eighth and sometimes even ounce BUT IT GOES QUICK and RIGHT away the scam artists especailly young ones ) to learn enjoy its flavor.

BENZOS: be carefull of benzos especailly xanax being one of the strongest here in the US (and in other countries i have heard THE MOST POWERFULL AvILABLE IS rohybnol, yes "roofies", which are almost ten times as striong per mg as xanax and more then a little more of a black out potential per potency as ANYOTHER bezo. have heard of fuckers getting up to 5 or 6 mg of that shit which would be almost equal to 25 xanax bars and yes it is POSSIBLE to survive that if you build up the tolerance SLOWLY and DO NOT do other drugs with it especailly alcohol or GHB). REITERATING THE MORE BENZOS YOU CONSUME THE LESS OTHER DRUGS (QUANTITY AMOUNT AS WELL AS VARIETY YOU CAN SAFELY CONSUME SIMOTANEOUSLY ) YOU CAN SAFELY COMBINE. MINUS DOPE AND OR WEED IN GENERAL STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM MOST DOWNERS WHILE ON BENZOS.

Dont worry about what people say about 2 mg being a lot cause to a non user or rare user. cause it would make me pretty sloppy right now but was a time where less then 8 mg a day (normally taking 8- 10 bars , meaning 16 mg-20mg every FUCKING day) and if not those min 4 bars (8mg)i would be sick as fuck (way worse then Dope sick, alcohol DTs, meth sickness and coke mental withdrawl X depression or barbituate withdrawl ALL OF EHICH I HAVE GONE THORUGH AND BESIDES KWON POSSIBILTY OF DEATH EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN ME THE LEVEL OF BENZO GRIP. i am glad that that I DO NOT do bneenzos any more and have not for 4 months. OPne of the last times i did alot I ended up kind of hooking up with a femalke friend who we HASD a platonic relationship but then after shit happened she has been weird ever since and if we werent doing over 10 mg each of xanax wouldnt have been running for third base before realizing that the couch made a mistake insisting on me coming through and i made a mistake for excepting. She was until recently still taking 8-12 bars a day. The price went way up and her discounts are gone so hers cutting back is as much financialas regret and the fact that she doesnt rememebr 90% of her life. SO SAD and SO MANY PEOPLE dont realize they are doing the same ting under the guise of doctors, physics, etc.

i have been getting dubs of some REALLY good dope (smack) Lately and made (makes me retarded sometimes) so that why so rambling and GONE. PM or ask specific QUESTION and I will clearify wnything i said or know on the matter. THANK YOU
 
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yeah I agree with trigeminal, od's happen with one substance of course, but most od's are normally benzo and opiates, or some mix of downers. the synergy created by the two is nothing like one alone. I mean I did it all the time, but I have also woken up a few times with needles dangling out of my arm and yellow skin, NOT WORTH THE CHANCE
 
Please don't double post, shruuuuz! I'm going to merge this into your other thread for now out of respect for the people that took time to reply to your posts...
 
SIMPLE ANSWER!!!!!!: YES YOU WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FINE. i WOULD TAKE A BAR FIRST THEN SMOKE HALF HOUR LATER. THEN TAKE THE OTHER BAR DURING THE SMOKING SESSION AND REMEMBER THAT THOUGH REALLY GOOD INTENSE RUSH IT ONLY LASTS 15 MINUTES TO A HOUR WITH VERY SMALL RESIDUAL EFFECTS WITH THE H SO YOU WILL HAVE TO SMOKE OFTEN. SHOULDN'T BE A PROB IF YOU HAVE BNEZO TOLERANCE BUT IF NODDING FROM XANAX GOING TO BE HARD TO KEEP REDOSING TO BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

BLACK TAR PASSING AS OPIUM: only smoked black tar ( no other ROA cause barely available in chiago through my connects, usually on the north side like logan square) probally 4 times maybe three cause one time was supposed opium but was totally incense (dhami or dahxi whoomp or what ever those flavors are of that sweet black incense.) laced with BTH. As for that (fake opium) there has been ALOT of people doing that since i started doing drugs at 18 in feb 1998, second semester senior year and remained an honor
studen d to the point that that semester was 5 As and one B ibn a boring math class on impracitcal things would never use, of people trying to sell dragons blood as red rock and those "WHOOMPS" as black tar opium and you CAN tell cause its way to sweet smelling and tasting year REAL opium tastes very p[lant like and more of an aquired taste that i dont think many peioplke try enough times in america ( it comes in shifts of being dry for up to year or two and then if you know the right people it will be around for up to a few months by the ten the gram the eighth and sometimes even ounce BUT IT GOES QUICK and RIGHT away the scam artists especailly young ones ) to learn enjoy its flavor.

BENZOS: be carefull of benzos especailly xanax being one of the strongest here in the US (and in other countries i have heard THE MOST POWERFULL AvILABLE IS rohybnol, yes "roofies", which are almost ten times as striong per mg as xanax and more then a little more of a black out potential per potency as ANYOTHER bezo. have heard of fuckers getting up to 5 or 6 mg of that shit which would be almost equal to 25 xanax bars and yes it is POSSIBLE to survive that if you build up the tolerance SLOWLY and DO NOT do other drugs with it especailly alcohol or GHB). REITERATING THE MORE BENZOS YOU CONSUME THE LESS OTHER DRUGS (QUANTITY AMOUNT AS WELL AS VARIETY YOU CAN SAFELY CONSUME SIMOTANEOUSLY ) YOU CAN SAFELY COMBINE. MINUS DOPE AND OR WEED IN GENERAL STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM MOST DOWNERS WHILE ON BENZOS.

Dont worry about what people say about 2 mg being a lot cause to a non user or rare user. cause it would make me pretty sloppy right now but was a time where less then 8 mg a day (normally taking 8- 10 bars , meaning 16 mg-20mg every FUCKING day) and if not those min 4 bars (8mg)i would be sick as fuck (way worse then Dope sick, alcohol DTs, meth sickness and coke mental withdrawl X depression or barbituate withdrawl ALL OF EHICH I HAVE GONE THORUGH AND BESIDES KWON POSSIBILTY OF DEATH EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN ME THE LEVEL OF BENZO GRIP. i am glad that that I DO NOT do bneenzos any more and have not for 4 months. OPne of the last times i did alot I ended up kind of hooking up with a femalke friend who we HASD a platonic relationship but then after shit happened she has been weird ever since and if we werent doing over 10 mg each of xanax wouldnt have been running for third base before realizing that the couch made a mistake insisting on me coming through and i made a mistake for excepting. She was until recently still taking 8-12 bars a day. The price went way up and her discounts are gone so hers cutting back is as much financialas regret and the fact that she doesnt rememebr 90% of her life. SO SAD and SO MANY PEOPLE dont realize they are doing the same ting under the guise of doctors, physics, etc.

i have been getting dubs of some REALLY good dope (smack) Lately and made (makes me retarded sometimes) so that why so rambling and GONE. PM or ask specific QUESTION and I will clearify wnything i said or know on the matter. THANK YOU

Dont post terrible, potentially FATAL advice to people, ok?
And dont post rambling bullshit when you yourself are smashed on dope, ok?
 
^Absolutely! Thanks for saying that DG.

Please don't give out advice like this, people! This is a harm reduction site... mind the dangers of the drugs discussed if you are going to post something!
 
To the OP.
You have made 2 posts today on the identical subject.
Dont smoke anymore dope tonight ok? I dont mean to be a dick but you seem a bit young, impulsive and inexperienced and that is a bad combo when you are mixing potentially lethal drugs. Your judgement is severely impaired right now due to the xanax and dope abd you can't trust your own judgement, so let us make this decision for you...Don't take anymore/.
 
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