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Black Cocaine....Thank you csi

Sounds semi-bullshit to me, especially the fact that reagents would have zero reaction to the product. Either way I am not sure if you have encountered this and need some advice (aka don't do it as it requires hardcore chemistry to seperate) or if you are just posting this as an interesting factoid. Next time the CSI updates are probably better left as journal material.
 
Nope, it is an actual fact. It is old news. It is smuggling technique that defeats K9s, and irs proven effective. The problem though is that things get xrayed, visually inspected, and so on.


If you want to research it start reading back issues of Microgram, they reported on it I think 4 years aggo so start in the 2003 or 4 issues.
 
Huh, so the cocaine is actually reacted to a separate substance I assume (if it is not reacting to reagents or is the additional product fooling the reagents?) Please enlighten me Rach!
 
May I say...
Holy fucking shit.
This is fucking smart shit. No wonder coke keeps getting in despite billion dollar DEA funding. It kinda reminds me of those dolls in Traffic... anyone remember that? I wish all the back issues of Microgram were open. I'd be interested to see how they actually detcted this to begin with.
 
Ok, so they add dyes to cocaine to smuggle it into/out of certain countries. It makes sense I suppose. I guess all that would have to be done to turn the coke white again would be a simple re-crystallization. Le Junk's cocaine purification threads may be helpful if you ever come across this shit, an acetone wash would probably do the trick.. Be careful messing with chemicals.
 
djsim said:
May I say...
Holy fucking shit.
This is fucking smart shit. No wonder coke keeps getting in despite billion dollar DEA funding. It kinda reminds me of those dolls in Traffic... anyone remember that? I wish all the back issues of Microgram were open. I'd be interested to see how they actually detcted this to begin with.
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when i first read the first post i was thinking the exact thing about those dolls in traffic and i was gonna reply sayin something about that but you beat me to it lol
 
I don't think anyone should be surprised smuggling is successful. Nobody knows how much Cocaine Hcl enters the USA in a given day, let alone annually. It is ridiculous to think a few thousand guys with guns and fancy cell phones are going to stop the entire worlds best minds and greediest businessmen from bringing in blow to the millions of tax-paying, candy nosed cash in hand custies.

I don't think there is much that can't be accomplished scientifically with the backing of a nation state's resources and manpower. Unfortunately, this 'Black Cocaine' funded the lifestyle and retirement package of one of histories bloodiest dictators (Pinochet).
 
Dopaman: It is actually a pretty old technique. Most pseuohalides will mask a substance. Usually KSCN is used and then is only detectable by a physical general test which still cannot determine cocaine, but only the high probabilty of prior or present contact with residue of ANY number of illicit substances.

I will not bore everyone will all the details but others use potassium thiocyanate, and I suppose others. The key is the porportion, with as much as 60% of the masking substance being used (60:40, 60 being the mask and 40 being the target substance).

First detected in Germany in 1998, only in Amierca much later, and usually WAS shppied via a combination masked to look like shaving from bulk iron shipments.


So...Dogs are NOT infallible.
 
i have seen and tasted black cocaine. it was shitty and kinda of malleable. the person who had it said the person they got it from fucked it up when they were cooking it or something, which didnt make sense to me because it was coke not crack
 
rachamim said:
Dopaman: It is actually a pretty old technique. Most pseuohalides will mask a substance. Usually KSCN is used and then is only detectable by a physical general test which still cannot determine cocaine, but only the high probabilty of prior or present contact with residue of ANY number of illicit substances.

I will not bore everyone will all the details but others use potassium thiocyanate, and I suppose others. The key is the porportion, with as much as 60% of the masking substance being used (60:40, 60 being the mask and 40 being the target substance).

First detected in Germany in 1998, only in Amierca much later, and usually WAS shppied via a combination masked to look like shaving from bulk iron shipments.


So...Dogs are NOT infallible.
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I be damned. That's some crazy shit...
 
Brains: Yeah, if you do a "wipe" on every shipment. When real smuggling happens, it happens blended in a high volume load. You are going to wipe EVERY single pile of shavings in a 1000 tonne shipment? It just does not happen, EVER. Unless they have prior tip off nothing going.

Guido: Yeah, old news BUT I love chemistry so it is always interesting to me.
 
I am not to sure if it is the same thing but I have seen Pink, Green,Yellow,Black Coke in a pretty popular club area in the west coast its not uncommon at all. I have tried the black and green and pink and they where all great but it was way to expensive.
 
This is crazy. I've seen pink coke and tannish pearly coke and white coke but never any BLACK coke. And by the way they explain it, it seems like not many people would ever come across this, as when it gets to it's designated area it is turned back into pure cocaine HCL and then cut with the street cut, whatever they may be using. But I dont think anyone would leave it black and sell it on the street like that.

edit- basically just a way to transport it more safely than just having Kilo's stacked in boxes, nothing more.
 
sonic said:
Ok, so they add dyes to cocaine to smuggle it into/out of certain countries. It makes sense I suppose. I guess all that would have to be done to turn the coke white again would be a simple re-crystallization. Le Junk's cocaine purification threads may be helpful if you ever come across this shit, an acetone wash would probably do the trick.. Be careful messing with chemicals.
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I second this on be careful with messing with chemicals. There was some stuff that was straight from a brick before cut off into a quad. So you would think it would be amazing, well the euphoria was great. Not the absolute best euphoria but up there. Then the person woke up with a bloody nose. They didn't do alot either.

My point is it can be screwed by the chemicals. My other point is you dont want to be snorting acetone!

and there would be no reason to get black coke sense the people who get it on the other end convert it and sell it.
 
People are totally misunderstanding the subject. It is not on the street like this. It is like when a shirt is starched with either heroin or cocaine (opium is sa simple soaking before and after). The substance is combined with another substance, and then recoved by even more substances before being prepared for distribution. It is not black and then sold as is. YOu would probablly die if you were to ingest the combined chemicals in their neccessary concentrations.
 
On the poster with coloured coocaine. Well, I have never heard of it happening with cocaine but it is certainly possible. Mexican methamphetmaine producers have been known to colourise their product with inert food colourings. You could colur any powder really.

As for "pink coke," that is soemthing else entirely. It is related to crushed vitamin c tablets and was really popular because of the novelty in the early 1980s, then was repopularised a few years back but luckily seems to have faded into obscurity.

Beige and yellow are related to sloppy synthesis and represents bad product, very impure.
 
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