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Black/Brownish liquid 4-aco-dmt?

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black4acodmt

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Hi, I got some 4-aco-dmt in liquid form. When I got it a week ago, it was odorless and colorless. Now it has an odor and is dark brown/black.

What's going on? Is is alright to consume?
 
It seems like it's oxidized for some reason.

How did you store it, what did you put it in? Maybe some enzymes are in the solution?

Don't consider this safe right away but I've heard more than one person on this forum say that they had this happen with other tryptamines and didn't really get less effect from it. Only, when it happens when the compound is still undissolved, as a solid it can get very greasy when turning dark, making it almost impossible to weigh. You don't have this particular problem.

Hard to tell what happened or in what state it is in now, but it seems unlikely to me that it became a poison. Try like less than 1/10 of a dose and see if you get effects or side-effects, then
wait some days or a week and try somewhat higher.

But please tell us a bit more about the circumstances. And really consider if you want to take a chance with this stuff since obviously I can't tell from out of my comfy chair.

4-AcO-DMT and other tryptamines should not be stored in solution in the first place by the way, since it speeds up both degradation and oxidation, I believe. My solid undissolved 4-AcO-DMT has not degraded AFAIK (haven't checked the freezer lately).
I have kept my 4-HO-DiPT and 4-HO-MiPT away from light, oxygen, heat and moisture and last weekend used up a little 4-HO-DiPT. It was in great condition, couldn't be better.
 
Go the liquid Sunday, stored it at room temperature in a sealed jar for a week. Now its one week later.

I don't think I'm going to try any of it unless there's a consensus that it's harmless.
 
Wherever you got it from (no need to talk about that specifically) didn't tell you that he or she stored it in a certain manner (say very cold)??
Did you get instructions to dose the liquid with a little syringe to spray a little in your drink and ingest it? You must have gotten a concentration, otherwise how would you know how much to take?

Sounds to me like someone dissolved it for you right before you got it, and being in solution has oxidized the 4-AcO-DMT. Shame. Hope it wasn't too much.
 
Yes, it was given dissolved in water, 20mg of 4-aco-dmt in about 100ml of water.

I wasn't given any instructions, but it looks like I should have refrigerated it and sealed it off.

:( :( :(
 
Not that anyone should risk their health for bigger quantities but with 20 mg I wouldn't even bother trying to get something from it.

Can you not get another 20 mg that is not dissolved in water?
Either that or store it in the freezer or refridgerator, keep away ALL light and keep air out.
If you are freezing it I would suggest something like wodka to dissolve it in so that it doesn't solidify. Though that is only for practicality.

Not dissolving it is the best advice though, yea, so you got it right now.

Welcome, by the way! :) - I'll leave this open if others want to give their experience with degraded or oxidized tryptamines.
 
Thank you for the welcome! This is just a throwaway account, but I'll stick around for sure. Really great community you guys have here.

I can get it dissolved in water only, so I'd probably just end up using it the day of purchase. Dealer didn't have scales yet so this was an quick fix to measure out amounts.
 
Two things:
- if he needs to use volumetric measurement because he doesn't have a scale he must have a big part of the solution left after measuring out your dose. So... next time ask him or her how that rest of the solution is stored because if it's not black he/she knows how to keep it well (the way to store, I already explained to you though, keep away from the 4 factors heat/light/.....)

- the other thing is: if this person does not have a scale, it's also impossible to know that the initial quantity was right. So be aware of the fact that you may end up with a bigger or smaller dose anyway if the original vendor was sloppy. :\
 
Vendor has the rest of the dose sealed and refrigerated, and he hasn't had any oxidation.

Yes, I'm going to opt for solids from now on...
 
sounds like it degraded.

4 ho/aco tryptamines are not stable in solution and are best kept in powder form.

Ive had a similar thing happen to a sample of 4 aco mipt.
And i have read of numerous accounts of this happening with other tryptamines including 4 aco dmt. I remember DivineMomenT (RIP) reporting his psilactein solution degrading in a similar fashion to what you described.
 
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