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Negative said:
I think the zipping of the tracks is a real good idea if we can find the space.
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Do you mean compressing them?? If they're already MP3s, more compression will have little or no effect on the file size.

Regarding the BL-wide voting.. could we use the vBulletin voting system? Does this have a facility to only allow one vote per user? Mods, can you answer this one?
 
yeah thats what i meant when i suggested it - putting all the tracks into large zip files. i'd keep them in genre-specific zip files, so if someone only wants to vote on the trance tracks, they only have to download 1 single file containing all the trance tracks.

theres 2 advantages to this as i see it - the one i mentioned before (users are forced to get all the submissions for a particular genre, meaning no artist misses out on getting judged cos someone missed their link/didn't bother downloading the track), and it makes it easier to handle - you don't have to download 5, 10, 50, whatever tracks seperately on different servers with possible bandwidth restrictions to judge all entries for one genre.

like i said, there are also problems with the idea. firstly someone would need to provide space on a server. hopefully we would be able to spread it around so someone wasn't having to host them all, but even then it could still be a strain. lets say a genre had only 10 submissions, each at only 5 meg a piece - thats still 50 meg of space, and 50 meg of bandwidth for every single person who downloads it.

second problem would be dialup users...but then again, they're going to have a lot to download whether its ten 5 meg files or one 50 meg file.

possible solution for the space/bandwidth issues - in addition to web/ftp space, maybe anyone who initially downloads it can share it in file sharing programs/p2p applications - soulseek, kazaa, bittorrent....help spread the load.

also what about format of the submitted tracks? mp3 is the most obvious (though i'm sure people will suggest ogg), but would there be size (in effect track length) restrictions? what about bitrate? be unfair for a track encoded at 128 kbps to be compared against one at 320 kbps, specially if we have judges looking at something like "smoothest production"...

apologies for the length of the post, its friday afternoon here and i'm trying to kill time :)
 
I like the bittorrent idea... I doubt anyone has the requisite bandwidth to host everything, but if we split it among a bunch of people that'll help. My computer at work and at home are on all the time so count me in.

Also, I reckon that the compression should be limited to 192kbps... this is high enough quality and still small enough to be convenient (about 1.5MB/minute).


Negative said:
No, I meant the idea of putting all the tracks together into one zipped package so that people who were gonna vote could download them all at once easier.
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ok... gotcha... good idea :)
 
could we use the vBulletin voting system? Does this have a facility to only allow one vote per user? Mods
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Yes, it only allows one vote per user as it is. It does not prevent people from registering multiple accounts to stuff the ballot box though. If there were inconsistencies, an admin could check and see who voted for what, but that would be akin to pulling hens teeth. I don't think anyone would really cheat, but the possibility should be explored.
 
Okay, these are the rules that people have suggested that seem to have support . . .

Categories (genre specific):

house
techno
trance
breaks
downtempo
jungle
hip-hop
non-edm


Other categories:

Most Innovative
Best Anthem
Smoothest Production

how ever many categories we make...we can (when judging time comes) start a thread for each category and just have people reply in that thread with the name of their pick for that category and nothing else. from there we can tally.

We will also have a thread that has only the submissions of links to download the tracks for people to listen to so that they can judge them.

We can have a public vote account for 50% of the final vote
and a Judge vote account for the other 50% I think we need atleast 3 judges that aren't going to submit work to the contest


You will need a server to put up your track so that you just post a link . . . if you need server space ask someone or go to any number of sites that offer free song hosting like soundclick or ACIDplanet.

It was suggested that all songs be in MP3 format at 192.


It has also been suggested that we start on the 15th of this month. No one has suggested a deadline yet.


I think we should have two more categories, Best Overall and Best Remix. The remix thing would be kind of hard because if it wasn't an original track you would also have to post a link to the original song . . . maybe that's not such a good idea.
 
Kurt The Jurk said:
seth is on it!. spinal, you will have to have a server and submit a link. If anyone needs server space for their tracks, i can hook them up. lets get this together. we should start on the 15th.
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I have space on the Evolving Records server that I can use for submissions...they'd just need to go through me and then I'll post them up and then put links on the Submission Thread
 
are there going to be enough spots for each producer to have in a list on a vBulletin post? I thought there was like a 10 subject limit... or are you thinking of something different?

I think we should have all mp3's at 128kps. You may lose a hair off the quality, but it will make it better for dial up downloaders
 
Judges:

djsethnichols
nowonmai
The Neoracle
Code~613

Submissions need to be IN by May 15th
does that work?

any other things to work out?

You will need a server to put up your track so that you just post a link . . . if you need server space ask someone or go to any number of sites that offer free song hosting like soundclick or ACIDplanet. Also a few in this thread have mentioned they could help with space for your track...PM them.

Submissions must be stated as one of the following genres

Categories: (best of all submitted to the genre specified)

house
progressive
techno
trance
breaks
downtempo
jungle/DnB
hip-hop
non-edm


Other categories:

Most Innovative
Best Anthem
Smoothest Production
Best Overall

Submissions atleast 128Kbps... up to 256Kbps Max
but for the sake of piracy and copyright...I'd suggest work be submitted @ 128, thus being a low enough standard to where you couldn't play it in a club or anything...up to the individual producer though, they may want it to be played out by others.

think we should start a thread for each category and then have people submit in that thread. After the deadline is reached we will let a public vote commence within that thread? ?

lets talk all the logistics out in this thread as we have been and then we can start up the other threads concerning the 'Produce Off' :)
 
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one final thing to add... use the following format for naming files:

YourName-TuneName.type

that way I won't have to be writing down who did what :)
 
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