• H&R Moderators: VerbalTruist

Biking Nerds Unite

Has anyone ever had any warranty experience with the manufacturer of their bike? How did that work out for you, what was your experience and did they treat YOU right in iyho?
I ride Jamis Parker full suspension bike. Its offered up as a do it all very aggressive/light downhill/4x bike that you can ride from the mountain and park or 4x race and then stop on the way home at the Coffee Joint.
I am going through the process right noaw of sourcing a new rear broken swing arm with a Jamis Bicycles Representative in my area.

Ive been riding a 1992 Japanese 4130 chromoly Univega Alpina Pro 26 inch. Its retrofitted with u brakes and has Shimano lx shifters and a mix of other very good components. Its very light ( sub 20lbs ) and I ride smooth 2.3 tires that handle up to 80p.s.i. I.ve got fenders for the front and the back as its my 2nd bike.

I'll post pics when I find my camera.
I can't remember for sure - and it's not my personal experience - but think it's either odyssey or profile that are crazy reliable in their lifetime warranties for cranks (ie they'll replace them for any riding-related bending/breaking) For sure tho, most manufacturers try to make this hard (duh) and i cannot imagine warranties being of any worth if you didn't send your warranty card in upon purchase (and you still have receipt / etc)

anyways though, <20lbs?? WTF? Dude are you sure about that? my ride is like ~24ish lbs.'s, and that's 4130/jap frame (at 21" top tube), smaller wheels (20" wheels and you're 26", and mine are 2.2 to your 2.3), w/ no brakes, no nothing (well, maybe 1/4lbs from my plastic pegs) Was under the impression that you needed to go aluminum, like w/ street bikes, to get sub-20lbs? My aftermarket bars, and aftermarket stem, are both lighter (and stronger :) ) than the factory package, if i had to guess i'd put my $ on mine being mid 23's right now, maybe high 23's (based on a 24lbs original/factory package)

cannot wait for the pics :)


BMXXX, I watched the vid you linked. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?annot...&feature=iv&src_vid=AjVAemENLXY&v=TVXOvRIC4q8]
I imagine your fit ass doing some of that stuff featured on the vid.
THANK YOU, i'm stoked even if you're the only one who watched that! The sport has come so far and it still gets no credit (ex.: garrett reynolds wikipedia page has been put up 3 times, and is always removed - he has won 6 or 7 xgames gold medals in bmx street, and he's apparently not worthy of a wiki page :| ) The vids i posted are incredible and that is 'elite' no matter how you slice it, and the only way anyone ever cares is when someone makes a .gif of a particular scene..
/and thanks for that ego-booster lol, but my small, fit ass is only hitting 180's like 1/4 the time, and I can only do 3 types of grinds w/ any reliability - and that's on ledges, not handrails lol!

I haven't rode a 20in in 2 decades. It looks so cramped. I am thinking about either fixing my Dyno Slammer with a 1 1/8 aheadset and proper fork, running a slammed straight seatpost and cushy seat and putting my radial laced rims on it. It doesn't have the posts for a u brake. I need a 3 piece crank and small sprocket also.
...But, I am intrigued by the sub $300 beautiful bikes you can buy from pinkbike.com
It is cramped, and, on such a small setup, it's mind-blowing how huge the smallest adjustments feel; i've been doing <1/4" adjustments to my grips' position via the stem for a couple weeks now, and am still a few mm off from my ideal.
What year was that dyno? Many of the older gt/dyno rigs do not take 3-piece cranks, at least not any 3-piece setups you'd wanna ride... do you know if the bottom bracket is american, mid or euro? Many of those were american bottoms (the biggest of the bottoms- do a google image search to see what i mean) and the only way to put 3-piece cranks in is w/ kits or random, unheard-of products. I'm also curious what you mean about the 1+1/8" threadless headtube/fork setup, cuz if the frame is a wedge setup for the fork/stem like many of those were, that's a thinner headtube and won't take the wider 1 1/8" fork's steerer tube plus the headset bearings.
/slammed seats are so f'ing cool but difficult if you're not comfortable w/ the flexibility to squat "ass to heels" reliably.. hell, i've been alternating between ~4" of post, and 100% slammed*, for over a week now, and on days when my legs are sore it's really uncomfortable trying to sit on a slammed seat - i just stand the entire ride lol! (*i've been switching up based on what riding i'm doing... i do prefer a 4" post-height for sitting while cruising, but it's essential for me to hit barspins anywhere over 50% of the time; on the other hand, slammed looks sexy but, more importantly, it's all but essential for me right now because i've been trying real hard to hit a proper tailwhip and i need all the clearance i can get for getting that frame back under me! I know this sounds really lame, and i'd be *literally* the only one i've ever seen who's had this, but I'm about to put an adjustable-bolt into my seat-clamp, so i can just adjust the fucker for what i'm trying to do. I know it's tacky and will look ridiculous on a minimalist bmx but, well, function over form any.fucking.second :)

It will be a nice contrast to my 26 in full suspension bike.
yes, yes it will be! It's mind-blowing dude, and when you get used to 2 very different bikes it's fuct at first but it becomes really cool. I ride a fixed-gear, ~27" street bike (700) with no brakes, and a 20" bmx cassette w/ no brakes. The difference is so huge - hell, even seats: I like a pretty 'tight' seat on my street bike (ie, about as high as I can properly touch my pedals from), and almost no seat on bmx (when my seat is slammed, i frequently bang my ass on my rear tire, lol!) The difference is huge but it's, as you said, a nice contrast - I wouldn't have it any other way, at least until i'm living somewhere that i'd want to have a 26", proper mtb setup for trails i could hit w/ some regularity.

I've got a handful of improvements on my bike that was already near-perfect, so time to update lol:
aXk79dm.jpg


mcFCde2.jpg


YWIHXY3.jpg


[it'd be nice if someone could just verify whether there are 3 pics above this sentence - I don't dare log out of imgur, cuz i don't know the password i set it to or the email account's password for retrieval lol, so as soon as cookie's clear that account is inaccessible!]

SO I got a new bike at an insane price, as mentioned earlier in-thread, but these pics were taken just now and show what i've done:
- pedals upgraded to Odyssey twisted PC's in clear blue (will need to replace them soon, too, cuz i have a bad habit of putting my foot down while grinding and am just shredding pedal spikes off :( )
- bars were cut-down to 26.5" and I somehow stretched the ODI grips to be long enough to cover the beginning of the bend (~1" of the bend) in the bars; stem was flipped upside-down for maybe 6mm of a drop in bar height
- added 2 plastic pegs, front/back lamps (we get ticketed around here if it's after dark and we don't jet when cops come), and the drive-side hubguard (the black plastic thing in the 2nd pic that looks like a huge washer on the rear axle, between the pinch bolt and the dropout)
- swapped the odyssey bluebird chain for a nickel KMC 510 chain (woulda grabbed a 710 - the best available for my purposes, as far as i have been able to discern, but it's only available online and i was impatient, so grabbed a 510. the bluebird that was on the bike when i got it, was an odyssey re-branding of a kmc 510, but i've had some massive fuckups/injuries from failed-chains so i still replaced it, just as a CYA measure)

I f'd up and spent too much $ today so this'll have to wait some days, but the last thing this bike needs to be *100%* my perfect bike, is a sprocket guard (or, a sprocket w/ built-in guards). It's ~30 for a guard to attach to my sprocket, and ~50-60 for a sprocket w/ built-in guards (like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUNDAY-28T-...MX-Bike-Odyssey-Sean-Sexton-fit-/111413138604 ) This needs to happen, cuz i'm really a bitch when it comes to my chain's integrity, and i'm already mashing the fuck out of my chain/sprocket on like half of the failed grinds of a particular type (the feeble grind; usually, when i f it up, i end up spinning to my right and mashing the sprocket...)
Hopefully will have this upgraded within a week.. woulda been this evening if i was better at managing my $ lol!

/yes, yeah yeah that is a hellfire skateboard sticker on my headtube.. i'm only bmx'ing now but skated and bladed (and snowboarded) very much in my past, and i just love the hellfire logo above any other logo on the planet, so when my local store had that sticker w/ a silver-holographic background to it, i put it on headtube of my bmx and one on my fixie's headtube :) [edit- i'm not even sure hellfire is the brand name now, it's been so long! errrr...][LOL it's 'spitfire'...'spitfire' ;) ]

am unsure if these pics are even visible to anyone but me (cannot log-out of imgur to check a 'public' approach/view, cuz i cannot log back in lol), but just took this for a forum i'm loving (bike forum, obviously):

BZgKuwM.jpg


shot just now, it's my bmx beside my fixie, both have same head-tube sticker and both are my equally-loved steeds :)
[edit: @b: dude, i get what you mean about how weird it is to switch it up - look at my 2 main bikes, i can ride hard on both and it's funny seeing them side.by.side like this, it just makes clear how different the riding is! On the fixie i'm wayyy higher, i'm (obvi) on a fixed chain where i cannot stop my feet, and my weight distribution has me jutted forward - if anything goes wrong, i'm over the bars for sure, but luckily it's very easy to gauge, the gear ratio is proper and i can feel it out well, i don't ride in fear like on my bmx.. On my bmx, the position is almost the opposite, instead of 'ass-up/back' on the seat, it's squatting even lower and hovering above a (slammed)seat. I'm prolly describing that terribly now but I think the picture of both my bikes - both of which are about as perfect as i could want, for their particular purpose - shown side.by.side, are kind of telling about the variances in riding styles. I probably spend my time at ~60/40 on fixie/bmx, simply cuz bmx sessions are short/intense and fixie sessions are long/smooth/distance rides. I probably spend, in terms of energy expenditure, 80% on bmx and 20% on fixie.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
so last night i was riding the trail after dark and suddenly a spoke busted. Unfortunately, there were already broken spokes on either side of that one, and the broken one just whipped into the other, mangled itself, brought the tire to a standstill, and mangled my chain! No fall, luckily, but was scary and my fixie is now fuct up. this evening will LOTs of wrenching, including my 1st ever attempt to build a wheel (presuming this wheels hub isn't damaged, but it looks good. The hoop and spokes are wrecked so will be a full build :)
 
^that sucks, do you have your own trusted source for how to build a rim?

This pictorial is defo. for heavy duty mountain bike wheels, but its informative and was interactive on pinkbike.com
My dad is able to make a rim truing jig outta wood and shit. Ive never actually seen anything come outta the truing stand still plausible, but he too read the pinkbike thread on lacing. You don't need a jig to lace a hub to a hoop, but if its "dished" ie one side of the hub has a low flange where the other is a high, you will already had to have purchased the appropriate length spokes.
Good luck!


link: http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=70066&pagenum=1


Oh', pink bike ghetto parts thread too
http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=144431&pagenum=22
 
b.- thanks for that link, i used it as my guide but still failed. wheel is built, it looks great to the naked eye, but there's zero spoke tension and most-all of the nipples are protruding out of the rim... i think that, when i began lacing it, i was 1 (or2) holes off on where i put my spokes. Problem now is that it's probably impossible to 'move them all over 1 hole', yknow? Wouldn't really work like that, gotta remove all and start over but... i dunno wtf or how to avoid doing the same thing again cuz it looked legit when i started it :(

this is going to end up being close to 4 or 5hrs once i'm done i bet, i'm well past 2.5 right now and am about to take it apart. FML. Had no idea this would be worlds' harder than any other thing you could possibly do to a bike, i'd rather assembled 10 bmx's out of the box or trouble-shoot 10 derailleur problems than do this wheel right now :|

[edit: OH, i've also lost 2 nipples inside my rim and they won't fall out so will have some rattle now lol!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
They can be fun, but not in these flat lands I live in, here you need a proper racing bike

it's totally flat here and I never understand why ppl ride power-sapping suspensions or big tires on the roads around here. If you're on dirt trails or something then fine, or fat tires for bmx tricks, but for commute I like to ride 700x28 at the largest (which is the wheel i'm building now :) ) and just couldn't imagine riding something less efficient if i were just cruising or point A to B.
 
I got a bright orange racing bike.
When I got it, 2 years ago, I wasn't too happy with the color, but now I just love that I have something completely different
 


I got these today. The stem is a 24.5 110mm for a lightweight build and was on sale for $8 and the light is a replacement for the one that water got into. I forgot to try out the solar charge though.



I paid $27 w/ FREE s&h for these from an ebay seller. It took 2 weeks for them to arrive. They are lizard skins but have the patent by ODI brand on the lock on rings. ODI lock on rings came out in 1998.
I choose them over the odi's because they are a bit harder. MSRP at any other store is the same price.
 
Last edited:
cool, what bike do you ride?

just some generic mountain bike a mate gave me and my brother done up a teensy bit with his spare parts. few years back my brother rode all over europe over several months.
 
it's totally flat here and I never understand why ppl ride power-sapping suspensions or big tires on the roads around here. If you're on dirt trails or something then fine, or fat tires for bmx tricks, but for commute I like to ride 700x28 at the largest (which is the wheel i'm building now :) ) and just couldn't imagine riding something less efficient if i were just cruising or point A to B.
I agree.
I tried to register my Fox rear shock for the warranty and to receive the 1 per year Fox suspension products poster, and they never bothered to send me the poster ( go figure ) because Florida is so flat. I think the highest point of elevation is Gainesville at 345ft. My bikes suspension is set up for riding into and up curbs in front of the coffee house very fast with no hesitations. I can ride off the sidewalk and drop into the road and not spill a drop of my coffee. Setting up a high performance bikes suspension is an art form. My source says that my model frame is designed ( when you factor in my 190lb weight. The industry doesn't really have any products that are designed for what Gary Fisher and others had set out to do initially and that was have the bike stay in contact with the ground at all times when riding over rough terrain for best performance...) just for when you case jumps.
After moving here from NY State, I was amazed by some of the Japanese motorcycles that have a lengthened rear swing arm and steepened/shortened front fork with a handlebar type steering dampener.

BMXXX: yo' I think I might still have some products that Dave Mirra rode when he was sponsored by Lindseys Bike Loft in North Syracuse back in the early 1990's. I used to ride alot with his cousin.
How is your rim coming along? I'm sure that you will get it done.
Are you familur with stans tubeless system? Do they offer a line of products for "skinny tire bikes"?
 


I got these today. The stem is a 24.5 110mm for a lightweight build and was on sale for $8 and the light is a replacement for the one that water got into. I forgot to try out the solar charge though.



I paid $27 w/ FREE s&h for these from an ebay seller. It took 2 weeks for them to arrive. They are lizard skins but have the patent by ODI brand on the lock on rings. ODI lock on rings came out in 1998.
I choose them over the odi's because they are a bit harder. MSRP at any other store is the same price.

re that stem- did you look into quality reviews? lightweight in the stem and cranks scare the hell outta me, and i'm a 'weight weenie' when it comes to my parts lol
solar panel- do you keep that on the bike while riding or something? I've actually had a DIY idea that i've been meaning to do for ages now, it basically amounts to custom fabbing LED front/rears into the bike itself, like a few white led's drilled into the stem, and a couple reds drilled into the seat post... i'm just farrr too lacking in metal-shop tools to really do this myself :/

Re those grips- GREAT grips, i'm sure! I really, really wanna get lock-on grips, and I actually prefer them harder/stiffer. I find my ODI longnecks to be farrr too spongy.. I stretch them as long as possible (partially cuz i like huge grip surface, but more-so to 'thin them out') That POS mongoose (white one from earlier in-thread, that i'd given away to some random kid) had the roughest grips i'd ever held- and i loved them, at least after the 1st few sessions' blisters developed.




ANYWAYS, greatest biking moment happened to me today. I wanna get into basic dirt jumping (not replacing street riding, but as an adjunct - I think it will make me a better street rider, and it looks fun anyways), so I'd been scoping for secluded spots that were worthwhile which, around coastal FL (read: sugar sand *everywhere*) is almost impossible. Anyways, i found a spot right beside a bayou, where there was a hidden, ~40' stretch that was flat/strong ground; close water source, lots of dirt to work w/, etc. SO, the cool part: after a few days of building a small jump there, I walked out of the thicket and saw a group of bmx'ers on our local 'podium' ledge (the only half-decent grind/drop spot around my immediate locale) These kids were pretty decent, i mean 2 of them were better grinders than I am (not saying much, but it's at least intermediate level skill) SOOOooo, I'm talking w/ the 'main' kid of their crew, and I tell him about the spot i was building in the woods/thicket like 150' away from that podium. He tells me not to waste my time- HE HAS A DIRT COURSE OF HIS OWN, AND NEEDS HELP BUILDING IT UP FURTHER!!!!!!! So yeah, i have a new bmx friend, he's better @street than me but he's a sponsored dirt rider, so i can only imagine what i'll learn riding w/ him. He's gonna call me later to go to his place to help him w/ his course (it's already rideable, he just wants to reform some of the track and maybe add new stuff - he was psyched there was someone more than willing to help him here!)
THIS is what makes riding great: riding w/ kids who're better than you. Like most things, you get more out of yourself if you're comparing yourself to someone else. Riding w/ someone better than you will improve you volumes better than getting better parts, watching videos, or solo-practice. Pushing the envelope in a group of kids is the ultimate road to improvement; i'm so beyond stoked right now it's not even funny. This kid was better at technical grinds than I, but he's predominantly a dirt rider, not street, so i cannot imagine how much i'll learn from him on dirt ramps (I already had to admit that I don't know ramps and am not comfortable w/ them, but it looks like that'll change very very soon :D :D )
 
I agree.
I tried to register my Fox rear shock for the warranty and to receive the 1 per year Fox suspension products poster, and they never bothered to send me the poster ( go figure ) because Florida is so flat. I think the highest point of elevation is Gainesville at 345ft. My bikes suspension is set up for riding into and up curbs in front of the coffee house very fast with no hesitations. I can ride off the sidewalk and drop into the road and not spill a drop of my coffee. Setting up a high performance bikes suspension is an art form. My source says that my model frame is designed ( when you factor in my 190lb weight. The industry doesn't really have any products that are designed for what Gary Fisher and others had set out to do initially and that was have the bike stay in contact with the ground at all times when riding over rough terrain for best performance...) just for when you case jumps.
After moving here from NY State, I was amazed by some of the Japanese motorcycles that have a lengthened rear swing arm and steepened/shortened front fork with a handlebar type steering dampener.

BMXXX: yo' I think I might still have some products that Dave Mirra rode when he was sponsored by Lindseys Bike Loft in North Syracuse back in the early 1990's. I used to ride alot with his cousin.
How is your rim coming along? I'm sure that you will get it done.
Are you familur with stans tubeless system? Do they offer a line of products for "skinny tire bikes"?
what kind of products? Mirra/hoffman are guys i idolized in my early teens lol! Plz lemme know!

The rim is done and, err, 'respectably' trued. I need to do another couple truing sessions but it's up and ridable (I also put clips back on... cannot believe i rode a fixie w/o toe-clips for so long, totally inefficient!) The learning curve on building/lacing wheels is insane, i spent easily 5+ hours from dissembling the mangled wheel, to my 2nd truing session; if I had to do it again, I bet i could do it in under an hour, hell i'm so confident in it now that I'm half-considering dissembling my bmx wheels to do white spokes, and stickers on the hoop, for all that extra #swag ;)

Tubeless? Never heard of it, and cannot fathom it would be desirable... to be lightweight they'd have to have terrible pressure (i like to ride ~90+ psi on my fixie), and for more pressure they'd have to be heavier, no? and I don't need to explain why heavy wheels are terrible (rotational efficiency... bigger/heavier wheels are wayyy inefficient)
 
So recently while I was travelling I lent my bike to a friend who then lost it (yes, literally lost it.. I don't know the whole story but it involves LSD, getting naked and arrested) and I didn't have much money and needed a new one asap so ended up with a bit of a clunker. I don't know anything about bike maintenance but I figure this can be a chance to learn and get it fixed up a bit. I'm hoping to switch the seat and handlebars (should be simple enough), replace the shifter cables, give everything a good clean, the crank creaks at the moment so either fix that or replace it. Eventually I'll probably want to sell it and buy something else since the frame is quite heavy but I figure it would be cool to learn a bit about bikes and hopefully get more money for it eventually if its in good shape.

But anyway my question is if there are any good books, websites, etc for a total bike noob to get started with.
 
w/o any doubt, my best recommendation to you is the Haynes Bicycle Manual (Haynes makes those model-specific car manuals, they have racks of them for most popular cars at Pep Boys and other similar stores - fantastic books for cars, too; i learned a ton on my accord w/ my haynes manual :) ) Past that there's nothing as general i can think of, but that book was huge for me in learning bike work (and I still consult it on occasion for things i work w/ less-than-routinely, like gyros or unique brake types - this book has step-by-step directions w/ pictures/details/tips for pretty much anything mechanical you could ever want to complete on a mtb/road bike/bmx.

Hope your friend is alright, it's one thing to wake up knowing you fucked up, but it's still another to be arrested while tripping (am aware of this :| edit: well actually I was young and wasn't charged but was restrained and hospitalized, and yeah lemme tell ya it is terrifying being taken against your will while you're unaware wtf is going on!)

just thought of another good resource- Sheldon Brown's website

my brother's bmx, a pretty sweet WTP Justice w/ lots of aftermarket parts, was just stolen while he was in the store >:(
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Top