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Big binge 5 mapb/6apb - Feeling guilty

Thervp75

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Hi everyone, first of all sorry for the mistakes, English is not my native language.

About myself : 33 yo man, daily user of gbl for 2 years, a little alcohol before, already tried weed and shrooms and that's it. Little experience with drugs in general thus .

In September 2023 I discovered 5mapb, which I bought from an online store, and I immediately loved it. I had always wanted to try MDMA but not wanting to go through a dealer etc.
I started slowly from September to February with just one dose per month, 200 mg per evening max, and that included two-three redrops (starting dose 70 mg).
In February things got to another level , I tried the 6apb with which I had a bad trip for the first time in my life, I ended up in the emergency room, a big shock at the time but I got over it fairly quickly. Barely 10 days later I tried the 5mapb again and everything was ok again.
Since then, I have completely lost control: I used 5mapb (and a little more 6apb) every week, and often 2 or 3 days a week, for a total of 12 grams in 5 months. .. My tolerance increased for sure, but not that much. When I don't consume for 5 days or more, the initial dose of 70 mg is enough for me to have a good roll, but I compulsively drop 30-50 mg every 3-4 hours until total exhaustion. In March I was already on binges that lasted 24 hours. April-May I went for 48 hours and in June I had two binges that lasted 3 and 5 days respectively, 1.2g consumed for the first and 2g for the second one ... I roll at home only, at the beginning my rolls consisted of sitting in front of the PC, enjoying music, chatting with friends and girls, then little by little a sort of fatigue and depression was always pushing me to spend 3/4 time lying in bed, this was the case during the last two binges, whole days lying on my phone, getting up only to re-dose and almost fainting at time due to drop in blood pressure (little eating, sleeping, and hydrating during these binge eating episodes...). I live alone in a small apartment so that doesn't help. I haven't used for 6 days and I really don't want to, the last binge made me feel so bad mentally, I literally spent 110hours out of 120 laying in the bed (the 10 others sitting in front of the computer), doing nothing, lost weight, was under hydrated, heating, , hyper agitated moaning dumb stuff at the end...
I m disgusted and just feel shocked and disgusted having done all this these last few months. The feeling that an external force was pushing me to re-dose even when there was almost no euphoria left with each dose.

I'm afraid for my brain and my mental health, even if I haven't felt particularly bad physically in recent weeks (apart from frequent sleep paralysis since April, and tension headaches + some brain zaps in the last 2 weeks since the last two binges...), otherwise I have no pain anywhere. I have never vomited, never had real physical pain because of my consumption. But I feel weird, and I really hate myself for having done this to my body, especially in these conditions, 12g is almost 150 doses that I could have taken with friends, with some girlfriends , in a positive context and atmosphere , but no I did this alone at home and most of the time in my bed heating like an idiot...
I ve never felt any addiction to it, I did all this out of boredom, a lot of free time, a temporary job... not really realizing what I was doing.

Last 6 days I've been eating well, I've taken supplements such as 5HTP, but I still worry, while I don't really feel bad physically, I feel worried, shameful, empty, I cry a lot... objectively Is it possible that I have permanently damaged/changed my brain and receptors or is there some placebo feeling too? If anybody has been through this kind of binge with 5mapb, 6 apb or MDMA, how did you recover?


Thank you in advance for your answers
 
I did have few hours of sleep here and there cause I was staying in bed and using some gbl too when I was feeling I needed to. But what kills me the most is the fact I lost the notion of time, I thought I was binging for 3 days while it was 5, kinda gives me the feeling I was half insane and depersonalized
 
man this is really very dangerous. Try no not binge for more than 2 days
 
If you really want to change you can. Very important thing is to be conciouss of where you are. And to feel guilty I think its normal. I dont know if it helps...
I dont know nothing about GBL but I think that to binge stimulants then GBL then stimulants then GBL have to be very harmful.
Sorry for my english Im spanish
Trying to help you. Where are you from?
 
I do the same with mdma. I go until I finish what I have. Redose redose, never ending history. So you are not the only one... I did this when I was 20 years old. Buy never more than 2 nights without sleeping. Only One day at the third night I felt so bad. I had to stop. I nearly wasnt able to speak. Now I do speed daily but only snort 4-5 small lines and eat and sleep normally. Im on methadone too and sometimes I IV some dope
 
We have a lot of smart people here, what is the fallout on the brain and body from doing binges of these serotonin releasers? I know there has been many posts over the years so a search in this forum can also bring up info.
 
I would advise to not use anymore though
This.

I think you'll be OK though. Plenty of people have taken way too much serotonin releasing drugs (MDMA etc) and given enough time are fine. Besides, there is the old anecdote of losing the magic.

I myself once took a gram of MDA over 8 hrs was straight up hallucinating And I didn't feel quite right for a few weeks.

A different question you might want to ask yourself is "why, do I feel the need to keep redosing and so frequently"
 
I would definitely agree with a few posts from above and stop taking more and ask yourself about why u kept redosing.

I’ve done a week long binge on MDMA back in November roughly 5-6 grams and luckily for me the worst symptoms I’ve suffered was brain zaps that lasted about a month and a half after discontinuing use. I will put a caveat here and state that it led me to a cocaine habit that lasted from January to end of April. So happy to be off that coke ride still have the occasional craving but I shrug it off
 
Thank you, all of you

I ve already been feeling better lately.
I will not touch this drugs this summer, and if rolling again I would only do it with people and not going for long binges. I wish everyone to do the same, redropping serotonin releasers continously is plain stupid and really not worth it.
 
I ve already been feeling better lately.
You got this! :D

There's a ton of this on the recovery thread if you haven't seen it. I used to view MDMA/related drugs very warily. But I knew this chick, she took MDMA every weekend for like 3 years (not recommended). She's like now head administrator for a large school district in a US metropolitan area and she lives a very happy life too. I saw that and my views on serotonin releasing agents did change after that. The term X-d out, i think is from people who don't really understand. MDMA is one of my favorite all time compounds, but I do try to not take it frequently or in excess. 250mg over a few hours is about the most I would do in even a festival situation.

 
The simple fact is this, you can’t take back what you’ve done you can only change your future trajectory. I’d be willing to bet the GBL played into that level of misuse as well, something to think about.

I would advise a long break though, whenever I’ve overused serotonin releasers I’ve need a long long hiatus to recover to the point I could enjoy them again.

I’d suggest waiting until the new year before touching any APB again but that’s me.

-GC
 
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