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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Best way to enjoy heroin while avoiding withdrawal?

The 12/72 rule would only likely work for someone new to opiates that has never had a habit before, or perhaps for someone that took a very long break from them. I know that I would become dependent even when using once every 72 hours, so forget about it if I binged for half the day every 3 days.

I find it convenient that the OP picked the post that had the most often usage. That's already a bad sign.
 
Tommyboy said:
I find it convenient that the OP picked the post that had the most often usage. That's already a bad sign.
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Seems a lot of people ask a question and just scroll trough the answers/opinions looking for 1 they were hoping to see. When they find that 1 they are satisfied, even though 10 others say its impossible, pointless, or stupid.
 
I agree with everybody regarding the mental ability to manage usage timelines to avoid withdrawals (impossible)

I have however tried this before and can comment as a new H user starting this year that has done H as an opiate virgin about 6 times this year so far:

On a physical withdrawal related level i can comment that when i did H no more then 2-3 days straight (lower but nod level doses done nasally) no sleep, no break, i would not not ever have withdrawals, bit if i went 4 days straight or more no break, no sleep, no sober periods in between, i would have minor withdrawals (compared to full blown opiate withdrawals, but no less hateful) which would usually last about 4 days straight before vanishing.

Even those minor withdrawals are the wost experiences of my life and the reason i stick with other drugs (meth) rather even though i love the opiate high.

2-3 three days max seems safe to avoid withdrawals from a purely physical perspective but that definitely doesnt mean that you will be able to stop at 3 days. I only did because thats when the shit i would buy would run out and im usually good at not buying more drugs when im done due to the driving/legal/late at night risks.
 
There is no going back to just chipping after you have been full blown addicted to opiates. I guess in theory it would physically be possible after a very long break (like years long) from opies. But that's a very dangerous line of thought because you would be completely eliminating the mental aspect of addiction from the equation. Which IMHO is the the major difference between someone who chips & someone who has become addicted. If you follow through with your plans after your done with the subs I 100% guarantee you will end up fucked up again. If you (or any of us who are addicted to opies) were able to just chip you would have not got addicted in the first place. Now that your body is conditioned to an opie addiction just forget about it. Or if you absolutely must use FA opies stay on the subs & use the FAs as a vacation from the subs. But that also has it's pitfalls, there are plenty of people who find themselves in a world of hurt by switching back & forth from FA & PA opies.
 
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