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Best Therapeutic Psychyedelic?

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sonnyblack793

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Hello,
can anybody name me a few psychedelics that could have an therapeuthic effect?

I had only experience with these 3

LSD -> low dose, almost felt nothing

Magic Mushrooms - one low dose trip that was pretty funny, but with no magical or lifechanging moments and one bad trip combined with too much Alcohol and Ecstasy, the setting was probably the reason why the trip went bad.

LSA --> 8( BAD

I never tried the 2Cx because i cant find them anymore.

Can anyone compare the therapeutic effects of the following?

5-MeO-MiPT
AMT
Ayahuasca
Mushrooms (again)

Thanks :)

Keep this to a comparison of therapeutic effects and which psychedelics have been most therapeutic for you - not a "what should I take?" thread please guys! :D ~Jesusgreen
 
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Well it matters what therapeuthic effect but maybe ibogaine if it is for something along those lines(google it). Some people find aMT to be a shit research chemical that is just for wannabe trippers but, I think its an amazing substance with a lot of good inner thoughts and I have definatley had life changing experiences in my trips a good few times. If you are a cannabis smoker and have tried any of the AM synths or JWH's, everytime I have smoked one of these on aMT I have had a profound experience lasting around an hour that provides some great insight. I recommend am 694 + 2201 with aMT, these cannabanoids aren't 100% safe but I and many people have used them occasionally with no apparent side effects.

Also, trying a higher dose would be better, for a good first trip definatley use, magic mushrooms, aMT or low - medium dose acid. I wouldn't go right into Ayahuasca just yet until you have more experience. Psy drugs aren't something you can go into and turn your like around with straight away as chances are you will have a bad trip. It takes multiple tries, time and patience but the journey while looking for this therapy or insight is half the battle. Anyway good luck and im sure someone else might be able to help you out more then me, as im not quite sure what you mean by therapeuthic.
 
I've had experiences with all the chemicals and I found that my most therapeutic trip was when I just decided to wander the forest by myself on mushrooms, it helped me pull myself through some pretty dark mental states. That being said I have also had some very non therapeutic mushroom trips. I think a lot of it is setting but I definitely feel like mushrooms and LSD have potential to be very therapeutic.
 
thanks for your answer. i think i will star with low dose mushrooms again and then a month or two after a high dose trip.


I'm just looking for something else what i didnt try yet. and i only found 5-MeO-MiPT,AMT and Ayahuasca since the 2x are illegal... and i cant get my hands on acid :(
by therapeuthic i mean, that it gives me a better understanding about the person who i am or some teaching about the important things in live...and how i should life the rest of my life....some.....INSPIRATION ;)

I am at a point in my life where i dont really know who i really am and who i really want to be in my life...and i dont want to waste the rest of my time here on planet earth like i did it with in the past 5 years.

maybe it can get me some better insights, better viewpoints to life. if not, then it will probably be still a nice, memorable trip.

sorry for my bad english..
 
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thanks again for the reply.

yes, i plan to confrontate myself on the trip, not just tripping and laughing around..i want to question things on my trip to that i still got no answer for it.
are mushrooms probably the best choice? i have no ideas about these RC psychedelics, just read a few tripreports about the substances and i heard good thing about the 2cx which are now illegal.
 
MXE in low doses or high doses can be extremely therapeutic.

Mushrooms can too but seem more in your face because they hit all at once.. whereas you can come up niiiice and slow on MXE. It feels so good it coaxes you into it without being the least bit worried.
 
5-Meo-MIPT, mushrooms, ayahuasca, in that order. (Better answer the OP fast folks if you want to help... remember, no "what should I take" topics which this obviously is and I have no doubt it's gonna get closed soon)
 
the sacred mescaline cacti can help to
show you god's path for yourself (as the natives say)...

but honestly very therapeutic in the sense you're referring to.
 
If you know your getting mdma or mda 100% then that is one of the most theraputic psychedelics, best dose is around 125mg-130mg and its advized that you have some strong 1 hit shit type weed for this, try not to drink alcohol (more clear headed) and do watever you feel like be it a nice walk through the woods/park, or to as simple as watching a movie that you really really love for example i love the Godfather so one time on mdma (around the 250mg mark/had taken 2 doses) i put the Godfather 1 to watch again out of boredom b/c i know it litterally but heart and i know every coming thing, also my second dose had just peaked) so to put it simply I was blown away by how much more information i was able to take in and how much better i was able to interpret it and find connections/clues in the movie which even now i find hard to ignore but before watching on mdma i had never realized how deep and profound the Godfather really actually is...i ended up watching all 3 that night and popping one more tab :)

You can watch any movie that you really love and you will see what i mean.

Pure psychedelic wise i would say a small dose of LSA or LSD would be adequate, for example if LSD then something around the 75mcg-85mcg range
Another equally good one would be small dose of 4-MeO-DMT which is in effects identical to shrooms however i'd had it enough times to conclude that unlike shrooms 1. theres no nausea or if so its minimal and 2. over 99% cases in my experience have

p.s. i whish i can try out some mescaline, thats one psychedelic that i am really curious to try that and DMT though i have smoked 5-MeO-DMT a few times previously but wasnt too impressed, its very strong/intense when u exhale your fucked up eyes rolling already, it has a WONDERFUL & glowing comedown similar to mdma/oxy, however I wasn't impressed b/c the visuals were minimal (i was expecting much more visual wise) and the experience was so intense was always just hoping it would stop as quick as possible, very intense to the point it was hard to make anything out of it
 
I found 4-aco-DMT to be incredibly therapeutic. I've read that 2-c-t-2 can be very therapeutic too. Ayahuasca is what I imagine to be the best though.
 
LSD in my opinion has the best 'Therapeutic' value to it. I used to run sessions in my own home for people who wanted to try it. There's a whole underground network for that sort of thing. It's been years since I have been around that scene however.... But it changed many peoples lives, and I felt great about it.
 
There is no best therapeutic psychedelic. Many people don't know how to use psychedelics therapeutic...
You'd better ask: how can I use psychedelics therapeutic?
 
To get the effects that you are asking for, most psychedelics will do the trick. Everyone that you mentioned will anyway. Just try them out and find which one works for you, start small and build it up from there with the doses. Trust me, you can learn a lot about yourself but tread carefully, bad trips can change your whole perception of reality.
 
In my experience, LSD is one of the most reaffirming, lightening psychs out there, but I think that mushrooms are more "theraputic." After using them on and off for 7 years, I'm still not sure if I really "like" them, but at low doses they have the reaffirming, lightening effect that LSD has. I generally dont like low doses of psychedelics though, so I often take enough that it becomes a somewhat difficult experience where I am forced to confront some issues, but the comedown and afterglow from high dose mushrooms is my absolute favorite part. I finally feel at peace after a turmoil filled rollercoaster, and at that point, I feel as though the "therapy" has worked.
 
jawn doe said:
In my experience, LSD is one of the most reaffirming, lightening psychs out there, but I think that mushrooms are more "theraputic." After using them on and off for 7 years, I'm still not sure if I really "like" them, but at low doses they have the reaffirming, lightening effect that LSD has. I generally dont like low doses of psychedelics though, so I often take enough that it becomes a somewhat difficult experience where I am forced to confront some issues, but the comedown and afterglow from high dose mushrooms is my absolute favorite part. I finally feel at peace after a turmoil filled rollercoaster, and at that point, I feel as though the "therapy" has worked.
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QFT, totally agree, VERY well put!
 
Methoxetamine. Tryptamines (4-AcO-DMT/Shrooms specifically).

However, Nepthys got the point right. It's more important on how to use them in that way rather than choosing the compound. For example, I find it rather hard to use them for therapeutic purposes, or any of that kind besides recreation (be it stronger trips or those light ones).

I had the most powerful and scary trip on 4-AcO-DMT though, kind of huge dose, unrespect for the substance paid me off by throwing me into hell. I can feel the effects of that one trip until now I can say. I became so much calmer in my mind since that day.
 
If you know your getting mdma or mda 100% then that is one of the most theraputic psychedelics, best dose is around 125mg-130mg
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how about methylone? i heard its almost the same in terms of effects?
 
Nephtys said:
There is no best therapeutic psychedelic. Many people don't know how to use psychedelics therapeutic...
You'd better ask: how can I use psychedelics therapeutic?
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However, Nepthys got the point right. It's more important on how to use them in that way rather than choosing the compound. For example, I find it rather hard to use them for therapeutic purposes, or any of that kind besides recreation (be it stronger trips or those light ones).
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can you give me any advise how to use them as a therapeutic or are there any threads out there?
 
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