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Best Supplements/Multivitamins
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Sustanon
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So u are saying u knew they are banned but then u say its ok to import? Were u ordering like months or even possibly years back? A year ago customs didnt even know what JWH was. A good friend of mine works at customs in Mascot not sure if i did mention this but they wont let through any protein powders or vitamins etc from most asian countries especially Japan. Id be alot more careful especially if u have sumnf on u that u shouldnt.
p-man
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Thought I'd give this thread a bump seeing as how important multivitamins can be, especially after being up for days on the pipe and barely eating I've found 
So after using Centrum for about a year, I did a bit research and found out it was a bit of a dud multivitamin. Ended up switching to 'Vital Greens' about a month ago after doing some reading up which I'm now much much happier with. Also take the odd magnesium and fish oil capsule as well..
What does everyone else use? Anyone made any change's to their daily supplements/diet since?
So after using Centrum for about a year, I did a bit research and found out it was a bit of a dud multivitamin. Ended up switching to 'Vital Greens' about a month ago after doing some reading up which I'm now much much happier with. Also take the odd magnesium and fish oil capsule as well..What does everyone else use? Anyone made any change's to their daily supplements/diet since?
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footscrazy
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^ Why is it a dud one...? I think I've seen that somewhere before but I can't remember why it's said to be worse.
I just take homebrand multi vitamins I have to admit, or the cheapest ones available. The main diff I've noticed is that the cheapo brands are often harder to swallow. I haven't compared the amounts of every vitamin across different brands - I just make sure to get good amounts of the ones I've been told are important for me - the b vitamins, magnesium and iron. Magnesium comes in different formulations, magnesium chelate and magnesium sulfate etc, I've heard one is much better than the rest, but that, like everything else, has slipped my mind.
I just take homebrand multi vitamins I have to admit, or the cheapest ones available. The main diff I've noticed is that the cheapo brands are often harder to swallow. I haven't compared the amounts of every vitamin across different brands - I just make sure to get good amounts of the ones I've been told are important for me - the b vitamins, magnesium and iron. Magnesium comes in different formulations, magnesium chelate and magnesium sulfate etc, I've heard one is much better than the rest, but that, like everything else, has slipped my mind.
footscrazy
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Do you remember what areas it's lacking...? I'm actually interested, not trying to be a smart arse or anything 
p-man
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*sigh* Ok you got me there lol. I can't remember exactly tbh as I didn't go into all that much depth in understanding the benefits of each individual vitamin & mineral. But going by a lot of opinions, reviews and what others had to say, none of them though of Centrum being too flash. Just that is so widely advertised and readily available is why its so popular..
This is also quoted from the last page:
This is also quoted from the last page:
footscrazy
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When I first saw a psycho for anxiety she recommended centrum, but I never actually bought that brand because it's one of the more pricey ones. I have heard before though that it's not the best.
I have also heard a lot of arguments against multi vitamins in general, and that they're usless or it's much more beneficial to get vitamins from food. Does anyone know why this is - are the vitamins in a multi-v less readily absorbed or something, or is it just that dietitians want to promote healthy eating? I would love it if I could get all my vitamins from my diet but the reality is that my diet is pretty shit, and was even worse when I was puffing and only eating 2 days out of 7. It'd be interesting to find out whether taking a vitamin supplement is worthwhile or not though.
I have also heard a lot of arguments against multi vitamins in general, and that they're usless or it's much more beneficial to get vitamins from food. Does anyone know why this is - are the vitamins in a multi-v less readily absorbed or something, or is it just that dietitians want to promote healthy eating? I would love it if I could get all my vitamins from my diet but the reality is that my diet is pretty shit, and was even worse when I was puffing and only eating 2 days out of 7. It'd be interesting to find out whether taking a vitamin supplement is worthwhile or not though.
p-man
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I know that the main reason that I take multivitamins is because I have a pretty shit diet myself lol. Yeah I think thats always going to be an on going debate, but I think for the most of us who don't have the time or knowledge to devote their day in getting all the right nutrients, these are the next best thing. Think it's been said that multivitamin's aren't absorbed in to the body as well as getting the proper foods, which is why there are more supplements coming out in liquid/powdered form(like Vital Greens).. and I don't really know what I'm talking about to tell you the truth. I'm just droning on now because I'm bored!
But I have to say. I definitely do feel a difference from the days I do take them, to the days I don't.
But I have to say. I definitely do feel a difference from the days I do take them, to the days I don't.
Divine Moments
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My understanding of the arguments against multivitamins are that there are several, e.g. less readily absorbed, more expensive, not necessarily an appropriate balance, it's possible to get too much (usually not from the multivit alone, but if you also have a significant amount of something in your diet), the way it's marketed, if you eat it in food you get the other benefits of the food, it encourages unhealthy eating, etc..
But all I've really heard is that there is no point taking them if you have a 'normal' or balanced diet. As you guys have already said, and the same goes for me and the wider community, many (if not most) of us don't have great diets. It's not prohibitively expensive so I don't see any reason not to take it - even if it's just a placebo making me feel like I'm healthier
But all I've really heard is that there is no point taking them if you have a 'normal' or balanced diet. As you guys have already said, and the same goes for me and the wider community, many (if not most) of us don't have great diets. It's not prohibitively expensive so I don't see any reason not to take it - even if it's just a placebo making me feel like I'm healthier
p-man
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Good way of putting it d m. But when you look at it, multivitamins are a small price to pay when you take into account how much people spend on smokes, coffees and so many other unnecessities. Your own health and well being is something you should never put a price on imo, especially when it comes down to something as simple as taking a capsule once a day.
Mr Blonde
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It's this.
As for whether Centrum is good or not, lets compare it with Swisse Men's F1 which is considered a fairly decent multi.
Centrum said:
Swisse said:
Swisse also has a new 'Professional' range, available only in pharmacy. Among the standard potions, there is also a couple of decent high potency fish oils which may be worthwhile.
Subtext
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Vitamin D
Vitamin D is super important. It is easy to check your level with a simple blood test. I got tested cos I don't get much sunlight and my level was 13. Normal is above 80 so I was severely deficient. Low Vit D levels will make you feel lethargic and depressed and my doc prescribed me 3000 IU a day (3capsules) for 3 months to get my levels up. They're now at 60 and I think? I feel better for it. She said other patients noticed a marked improvement in their mood so it's definitely worth looking into, esp if you feel run down.
Vitamin D is super important. It is easy to check your level with a simple blood test. I got tested cos I don't get much sunlight and my level was 13. Normal is above 80 so I was severely deficient. Low Vit D levels will make you feel lethargic and depressed and my doc prescribed me 3000 IU a day (3capsules) for 3 months to get my levels up. They're now at 60 and I think? I feel better for it. She said other patients noticed a marked improvement in their mood so it's definitely worth looking into, esp if you feel run down.
Mr Blonde
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^ Vitamin D is indeed an important vitamin. It is involved in calcium absorption from the GI tract, increasing resorption of calcium from the bone and being part of the general para-thyroid system of maintaining serum calcium and serum phosphate levels.
There was an interesting, small scale study done in the Netherlands I believe, that showed that high level intake of Vitamin D could help with depression. I can't find that study now, but I have found this:
Clinical Vitamin D Deficiency Linked to Depression in Older Adults
Brooks, Megan - Medscape Medical News
But that was then followed up with this Australian study:
High-Dose Vitamin D Does Not Prevent Depression
Lowry, Fran - Medscape Medical News
The latter study looked at elderly Australian women during winter (the months when exposure to sunlight is lowest), and how Vitamin D may be related to Seasonal Affective Disorder. As you can see, the results weren't so promising.
That doesn't mean that Vitamin D isn't an important vitamin; it surely is, and we Australians have a high population deficient in it (probably myself included!).
There was an interesting, small scale study done in the Netherlands I believe, that showed that high level intake of Vitamin D could help with depression. I can't find that study now, but I have found this:
Clinical Vitamin D Deficiency Linked to Depression in Older Adults
Brooks, Megan - Medscape Medical News
But that was then followed up with this Australian study:
High-Dose Vitamin D Does Not Prevent Depression
Lowry, Fran - Medscape Medical News
The latter study looked at elderly Australian women during winter (the months when exposure to sunlight is lowest), and how Vitamin D may be related to Seasonal Affective Disorder. As you can see, the results weren't so promising.
That doesn't mean that Vitamin D isn't an important vitamin; it surely is, and we Australians have a high population deficient in it (probably myself included!).
Subtext
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^I love to see anecdotal evidenced backed up by science!
Anyone who is interested in their health (and if you're reading up on supplements you probably are) definitely just get a blood test rather than trying to guess what you're deficient in. It costs as much as a doctors appointment and the nuisance or tiny thrill of a IV puncture.
Anyone who is interested in their health (and if you're reading up on supplements you probably are) definitely just get a blood test rather than trying to guess what you're deficient in. It costs as much as a doctors appointment and the nuisance or tiny thrill of a IV puncture.
Mr Blonde
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^ Very good idea there! Get a blood test and find out exactly what you are deficient in. If you can't be bothered to do that, consider your diet as well. As I've probably already mentioned in this thread, I like to go by the three C's: Caffeine, cigarettes and cocktails (alcohol). Consumption of any of these substances will lead to a deficiency of B vitamins, due to inhibition of absorption of these vitamins from the GI tract.
Take for example B12; your body keeps quite a store of it in the liver and so only needs a microgram from the diet each day to maintain correct levels. However if this absorption is being interfered with (lack of intrinsic factor, the substances I mentioned above, pernicious anemia, etc...) then it's easy for your body to start lowering what it has stored up. It's rare to see severe B12 deficiency these days, but even mild deficiency can cause health problems.
Take for example B12; your body keeps quite a store of it in the liver and so only needs a microgram from the diet each day to maintain correct levels. However if this absorption is being interfered with (lack of intrinsic factor, the substances I mentioned above, pernicious anemia, etc...) then it's easy for your body to start lowering what it has stored up. It's rare to see severe B12 deficiency these days, but even mild deficiency can cause health problems.
belarki
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^ B12 deficiency is something to be mindful of if you're a vegetarian or (especially) vegan though. If you're vegan you need to supplement it in some manner. Some foods are fortified with it but not many (e.g. Marmite but not Promite or Vegemite).
Subtext
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Just checked Wiki and-
"Vitamin B12 deficiency can potentially cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain and nervous system. At levels only slightly lower than normal, a range of symptoms such as fatigue, depression, and poor memory may be experienced.[14] However, these symptoms by themselves are too nonspecific to diagnose deficiency of the vitamin."
Seems like I'd better start eating more liver...yum.
"Vitamin B12 deficiency can potentially cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain and nervous system. At levels only slightly lower than normal, a range of symptoms such as fatigue, depression, and poor memory may be experienced.[14] However, these symptoms by themselves are too nonspecific to diagnose deficiency of the vitamin."
Seems like I'd better start eating more liver...yum.
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
Oh God... liver... disgusting.
The severe and irreversible damage tends to come from severe deficiency, as can be seen in pernicious anemia. Doesn't mean that fixing a small deficiency won't help with your energy levels, mood and memory. Just don't buy into all the vitamin ads on TV.
The severe and irreversible damage tends to come from severe deficiency, as can be seen in pernicious anemia. Doesn't mean that fixing a small deficiency won't help with your energy levels, mood and memory. Just don't buy into all the vitamin ads on TV.