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Best replacement for 3MMC?

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Bluelighter
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3mmc is now illegal in NL. It worked really nice on me, and the comedown is much milder than coke.

MDMA is supposedly unhealthy to do often, and coke gives me suicidal tier come down that I need to sleep out with huge dose of benzos.

I am looking for something that is empathogenic. My problem is that I have slight social anxiety and it is difficult for me to initiate conversations with strangers at parties. I have been doing therapy for this about 4 years, but I want to accelerate things a bit, so I need a drug to give me this little "push" or disinhibition if you will, so I can make that first step and initiate conversation with strangers.

I don't care how much euphoric it is (although it is a bonus), and I don't care how stimulating it is (I am willing to make biggest discount here), but I want it to. Help with being more sociable and the comedown to be as mild as possible.

TLDR: recommend me the best RC empathogenic with following properties: 1.makes initiating conversation with strangers easier
2. Has as mild come down as possible
 
I really enjoyed 4cmar. It was quite empathogenic, wasn't terribly stimulating, and didn't have a bad comedown.

Might be a little tougher to find. The popular vendor that stocked it has recently gone on hiatus but they will be back soon, so I reckon you can probably find it if pressed. As far as I know it didn't become popular amongst NL vendors or anything, but imo it is definitely worthwhile.
 
Both 3-CMC and 4-CMC are out but I haven't tried them. Honestly I don't know if i want to knowing that 4-CA is used to study serotonin neurotoxicity.

I thought 4-FMC (flephedrone) was pretty good. Not quite as good as 3-MMC or 4-MMC, but closer than most other things. I thought 4-FMC was quite a bit more like a "roll" than 4-FA, too, so I could see how 3 or 4-CMC could be a decent high.

Unfortunately we aren't likely to see any toxicity studies on the CMC's until it's too late (if ever).

6-MAPB is around. I would like to try that too.
 
Both 3-CMC and 4-CMC are out but I haven't tried them. Honestly I don't know if i want to knowing that 4-CA is used to study serotonin neurotoxicity.

I thought 4-FMC (flephedrone) was pretty good. Not quite as good as 3-MMC or 4-MMC, but closer than most other things. I thought 4-FMC was quite a bit more like a "roll" than 4-FA, too, so I could see how 3 or 4-CMC could be a decent high.

Unfortunately we aren't likely to see any toxicity studies on the CMC's until it's too late (if ever).

6-MAPB is around. I would like to try that too.
IIRC 6MAPB was like a speedier, less psychedelic MDMA, that didn't take as long to recuperate from.
I really liked it.
 
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