best method for dilaudid

[DivineMomenT]

Plugging is way better than oral. You get a decent rush too. I wouldn't waste my time with oral. Snorting definitely is not a waste though. IV is great but it wears off within minutes. At least if you snort you get a buzz that lasts a bit longer. I have eaten dilaudid before and the effects weren't even noticeable. The same amount sniffed will rock my world.

 

['medicine cabinet']

why would you use this much sterile water?

well depending on who made the pill, one and a half 4mg pills would be a decent amount of powder. with pills i always use more water since there tends to be fillers and binders that gunk it up more than say something like dope or coke.

I figure more water, the easier the hydromorphone will go into solution. it seemed to work well with oxycontin and morphine pills. Also, i meant "about" a cc, its hard to work with the plunger all the way back like that if it was a full cc, but like .7 .8 is what i think would work well for a shot that size.

 

[CafeContin]

why would you use this much sterile water?

How much water would you use to cook a pill? If you have a 1cc syringe you might as well take advantage of that when trying to prepare pills (that are always going to be a little finicky about totally dissolving). No need to try and force them into 20 units of water when you can use 80 units as easily.

 

[sixpartseven]

^ You do not want pills to "totally dissolve."

Use an 80mg oxycontin as an example. The pill weighs around 300mg, give or take. 80mg of that is oxycodone. The 80mg will dissolve almost immediately when a completely crushed pill has water added to it. All that other shit is fillers and binders. Think about it. Do you really want all that to dissolve?

8mg Dilaudid. The pill weighs...around 200mg. 8mg of that is hydromorphone. You can barely even see that much material with the naked eye. It will dissolve just as easily as oxycodone if the pill is fully crushed. Everything left over is fillers and binders. Shit you do NOT want getting stuck in your lungs.

Im not trying to single you out or anything, Im just using what you said to express how much people need to understand that with pills -- hell, even with heroin or cocaine -- you do not always want everything to dissolve. I see people complain about not being able to get everything to dissolve, and they need to realize that that is a good thing.

 

[red647]

Um, how come when someone mentions IV'ing other pills like Oxycodone, everyone stands up and says how bad it is etc...And then with Dilaudid everyone is all for it? Is there something I'm missing...Are they safer to IV Than other pills? They still have binders?
Sorry just a tad confused :S

 

[Survival0200]

Well, they obviously have binders, but at least according to RxMed Dilaudid tablets only contain lactose anhydrous and magnesium stearate as nonmedicinal ingredients (and the colored tablets contain some color too, which wasn't mentioned). Compared to e.g. an OC 80, which contains FD&C Blue No. 2 aluminum lake, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, hydroxypropyl cellulose, iron oxide, lactose, magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycol, polymethyl acrylate, povidone, stearyl alcohol, talc, triacetin and titanium dioxide, as nonmedicinal ingredients - which is a hell of a lot more shit to filter out than there's in Dilaudids. You have to use a filter with Dilaudids too, don't get me wrong! Preferably a syringe filter (a micron filter).

 

[red647]

Oh ok, cool.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[sixpartseven]

Yes, it is true that in the scope of things, Dilaudid is a much safer pill to shoot, if not one of the safest pills to shoot.

In no way does that mean it is totally safe, though. Like Survival0200 (good to have you back, btw) said, you still have to filter it.

 

[mikemikemike]

You are fucking a clueless punk idiot. Man, I have never seen anyone so ill informed as you.

You don't have to answer every post you dumb fuck. Your post are dangerous and it's clear you are not even beyond 12. However you fit in wit the rest of the idiot mods.

What makes you think that dilaudid isn't one of the safest pills to shoot? It is. Shooting pills is dangerous.

 

[Unknown]

I've had hydromorphone administered both IV and oral. Orally, it didn't work well for pain or euphoria, but IV kicked my ass for 2 hours (IV from a hospital, not pill).

 

[NW-baltiland]

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[shake]

How much water would you use to cook a pill? If you have a 1cc syringe you might as well take advantage of that when trying to prepare pills (that are always going to be a little finicky about totally dissolving). No need to try and force them into 20 units of water when you can use 80 units as easily.

40 units has ALLWAYS been enough water for 4mgs. i never get the big white ones only the yellow ones and the hexagon 8mgs(my RX). 8mgs i use 7 units of water

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

Did anyone mention plugging yet? 8)

That would probably be the least harmful way on par with oral.

oral hydromorphone has the shittiest BA ever... why would anyone want to shove something up their ass just to get the BA you could get by swallowing it, which IMO is a more easier and more comfortable way to inject a medication. if plugging it was on part with IV'ing thats a different story but on part with oral dilaudid? why would ANYONE plug dilly if thats all you get outta it? fucking stupid.

I've been snorting Dills with fantastic results. Pretty quick onset, like 5-10 minutes.

I would try needles, but from what I've heard, once you move to needles, you can't go back.

i've used the needle 49 times to be exact (Yes i counted, shot amphetamine, ritalin, focalin, cocaine, dilaudid, oxycodone IR, oxycontin, diphenhydramine, morphine, etc.) and i've stopped and now i have this thing where shooting just makes me feel sick, my doctor kinda used some reverse psychology or somethign and now i feel ill when i think about shooting and TWICE i ordered 25 30guage tremelo needles but both times i cancelled my ordered because i didnt want to do it and risk my life and my job and hurt my family/friend and other people who actually do care about my body and my person.

but if you think you really wouldn't be able to go back don't use it, but i think you could, i think many people who have only tried shooting up once or twice and that was it.

 

[Survival0200]

oral hydromorphone has the shittiest BA ever... why would anyone want to shove something up their ass just to get the BA you could get by swallowing it, which IMO is a more easier and more comfortable way to inject a medication. if plugging it was on part with IV'ing thats a different story but on part with oral dilaudid? why would ANYONE plug dilly if thats all you get outta it? fucking stupid.

You didn't get what I meant: least harmful way on par with oral (taking them rectally being as harmless or almost as harmless as taking the tablets by eating them). This is harm reduction forum after all ... 8)

Now, I don't remember the rectal bioavailability of hydromorphone, but I had a hunch that it might be slightly better than the oral bioavailability - I could be wrong.

 

[Sentimental]

but if you think you really wouldn't be able to go back don't use it, but i think you could, i think many people who have only tried shooting up once or twice and that was it.

I'm content with snorting. Although the rush from the needle that people talk about sounds real nice...

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ Don't start using needles. Its never worth it. Trust me (us).

 

[Jabberwocky]

yeah using needles really becomes more negative than positive in the long-run.

 

[CafeContin]

^ You do not want pills to "totally dissolve."

I'm concerned about not getting all the drug.

 

[LightTrailz]

You dont have to worry about that is what hes trying to say , most opiates are already able to fully dissolve in cold water to begin with . what hes saying is adding that heat is going to cause the useless shit to continue to dissolve and the amount of water required to dissolve such a small amount of drug is miniscule already . the only thing you need to worry about is the drug being lost in some of the cotton in which can always add more water to the solution and refilter and 9 times out of 10 youll get another decent shot out of it .. its nothing to really pull your hair out about.

 

[LightTrailz]

Whats your normal tolerance to opiates to begin with , do you have a daily habit .. keep in mind the foot also has slower circulation so that could also be a factor . how many units of h20 did you use?