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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Misc Best drug for motivation

Let me know how it works Kara? The fatigue sucks. You have no interest or motivation to do anything aside look at the wall. lol. Maybe life is better on methadone....jk
 
Kara Kava said:
I was going to order modafinil from the fatigue of methadone withdrawal. How much should I take?
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I found 200mg in the morning, followed by another 200mg after lunch if necessary, to be about right. I didn't take it after about noon due to interference with sleep, albeit mild. Most days a single 200mg dose was sufficient. I never combined it with methadone though, so start low. Some people are far more sensitive to it than others.
 
Anonymous Dissident said:
I found 200mg in the morning, followed by another 200mg after lunch if necessary, to be about right. I didn't take it after about noon due to interference with sleep, albeit mild. Most days a single 200mg dose was sufficient. I never combined it with methadone though, so start low. Some people are far more sensitive to it than others.
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Thank you. I'm 2 months off methadone but still dealing with the fatigue
 
Kara Kava said:
Thank you. I'm 2 months off methadone but still dealing with the fatigue
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I'm glad you're off of methadone before taking it, as it's a known cytochrome inducer and significantly shortens the duration of methadone!!

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Has anyone take methylphenidate / ritalin? I have read that it is excellent for motivation. In my country, students occupy it a lot when they need to study too much all night. The problem is that it can apparently create dependency.
 
Honestly, if you aren’t into stimulants or don’t want to do any, but want something more than caffeine, I would suggest concerta but that’s my opinion. I don’t tend to really like those adhd meds because they give me the nastiest headaches most of the time (especially adderall). I think concerta or the like is a safe bet because I wouldn’t want to suggest meth or coke to someone who just needs to focus and whatnot.
 
I take Klonopin for anxiety, makes me a little tired. I am also prescribed phentermine for weight loss, definitely gives me a nice pick me up. The best med I’ve ever taken in terms of wanting to be productive, clean my house, go places and do things while feeling good? Oxycodone. LOL! Who knew?
 
Keif' Richards said:
Supersonic and company, very interesting stuff. Many folks with legitimate ADHD describe their most prominent emotion as bein anxiety. I was diagnosed and I can say the same. I might have the brain power, but harnessing it, using it and organizing the thoughts within can seem impossible.

When I take a stimulant, this all goes away and I forget what it even felt like to be mentally disheveled. Interestingly, Gabapentinoids do the same thing. It begs the question, "is anxiety itself the main problem?"

Sonic, I wouldn't necessarily say Gabapentinoids have true stimulant properties, but they have powerful anxiolytic properties. My motivation, organization and thought processes are all set free.

So I guess it isn't so crazy to recommend Pregabalin for this purpose, especially prior to trying a CNS stimulant. Very interesting guys. Obviously, use as a study-aid a la Amphetamine would be completely off-label. Its use as an anxiolytic though is medically recognized and anxiety could be the root of the problem anyway.



Mankind not meant to feel that good. Haha. That is something I might've said before my first mega dose of LSD (Acid) at Furthur in Manchester, NH. It was the best I had ever felt, grooving to Bobby Weir. It was great.

However, that is obviously a different kind of feeling good. It's doesn't have that artificial quality that drugs inevitably have. I think we are all just looking for God. Is he a guy up in some invisible kingdom? Is God in every atom.

I think mankind is mean to feel good and that is what we are all after, happiness or our unique definition of that concept. Drugs are a great way to imitate being nearer to that being and/or feeling.

I think that's why drugs cause pain. They're not the way you're meant to find and be with God and experience ecstasy. Whatever God is, I think he wants us to experience ecstasy in loving and caring for others and having them likewise care and love for you.

That sounds pretty cool, but sadly, a lot of us dont have that kind of Love. Some of us are pretty far away from the light.

So when you say "mankind isn't meant to feel this good" it really strikes a chord with me. I dont think we are supposed to experience happiness by slamming Meth or Dope. I think man is meant to feel that good.

I guess what I'm getting at; the saddest thing is that I feel most of us know and can feel this. The drugs are just a substitute for love. Unfortunately, this type of happiness takes work and dedication. Caring about other people in a non-superficial way.

Mankind is meant to feel both good and bad. What we do is take the reins from nature herself and decide we want it now and in this exact way.
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You just inspired me. I've been on a ritalin binge for a week now and it's being hard to stop 1 - i'm still chasing the high 2- afraid of the comedown. You are absolutely right. Drugs fill a void in our soul, numb your pain. But in reality, it's just making the problem worse. I talked to my psychiatrist and he prescribed me lyrica and modafinil to help with the comedown. obviously stop taking Ritalin. I started on moda and pregabalin yesterday and didn't feel much. Just a sense of wakefulness. And I haven't been able to stop the ritalin. I'm taking pregaba and moda as prescribed. Not to get high. But I need to stop with the f@king Ritalin now.
 
bongdong said:
Hey @supersonic89

This sounds familiar. I have two strategies that immediately come to my mind (that probably won't work, at least not in the long run). First, become nihilistic, depressed and bitter and drive your body through the world like it's someone else's robot, force it and make it do the dance the environment wants you to perform, and then crash & burn later on. Or secondly, leave everything as it is and do some chemical intervention (laced with some denial that that is actually a solution) to function and simultaniously set the stage for dependance/health issues later on when you will have time to sort these ones out. Doesn't that sound promising?

Another option to Best drug for motivation? Find or create some purpose, which will give the things you do that are aligned with it a sense of meaning, which in turn will make your body produce compounds that feel rewarding on occasion and also naturally mobilize resources that make you motivated, persistent, able and maybe even smile in the face of hardship whilst acting occordant to your overall goals. But that sets you up for a whole array of philosophical, existential, metaphysical and whatnot-kind of dilemmas..

Greetings

PS.: I see that i'm not really able to shake my sarcastic/cynic tendencies at the moment, so take all this with a grain of salt, if you like..
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LOVE THIS!!!!!
 
Well back in Europe it was easy to get stims, prescription as well as research chemicals. Ritalin was the first one I got scripted and while it is excellent for motivation, it comes with a pretty heavy bodyload which distracts from mental work. This and palpitations were why I was switched first to dextroamphetamine (like Adderall) and later after it was available to Elvanse/Vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine). Tolerance is indeed a problem specially for some people, not everybody gets this as with the rebounds. I was quite susceptible to them and my solution were dissociatives, DXM and memantine, both greatly slowed tolerance development and leveled out the rebounds. With DXM one 50mg XR capsule was enough, no need for trippy dosages. But over time I developed chest pain / possibly angina pectoris and stopped the DXM. Then after 2 weeks or so the 18mg Concerta (methylphenidate) were just baseline while before I had no noticeable tolerance over 3+ months.

But that's past unfortunately I'm now in another region of the world and only stimulant I could easily get is modafinil. I was scared of this medication ever since I've read from people comparing it to a heavy dose of caffeine. I do drink coffee but only because I have nothing better - well, together with MPH+DXM I loved caffeine and it might have been what was too much but I also had a pretty physical work for which I could use all the stimulation.

How do you guys react to modafinil? Just wakefulness, motivation/concentration or jitteryness?

Another possible agent is bupropion, it's marketed as a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor but this is wrong, it's a pure NE-ergic medication. Some people get good benefits out of it, some not. I liked it together with DXM but not alone, it gives some energy but again more like caffeine than amphetamine. Read an anecdotal report by which bupropion+memantine were heavily synergetic, changing each other's metabolism etc. and the person said it felt nicely dopaminergic. Maybe I'll have to try this but I did bupropion+DXM again recently and it lost all the good effects it had when I was a teen.
 
Just my 2 cents but I'd say low dose ephedrine or modifinal would suite the cause best.

Buproprion would be a great choice too
 
Keif nailed it, try modinil or adrafinil before moving to euphoric stims like amp or meth please
 
I'm on break at work so no time to read the whole thread and see if its been mentioned, but low doses of dissociatives help me a lot with my focus. I've always struggled with focus and fell into a nasty stimulant addiction to self-medicate.

I find low doses of dissociatives help me focus, without being too forceful or distracting. 3-MeO-PCP, 3-CL-PCP, 3-HO-PCP, MXPR and others I've used with success to help get things done. Addiction is possible with dissociatives but less likely than with stimulants
 
Get some l-theanine to take with your coffee, it's quite efficient at preventing the jitters.
If you're going to do stimulants take low doses orally and don't fall for the temptation to chase euphoria, that's where I've often failed when trying to use amphetamine for focus. Ideally you shouldn't really feel it much.
 
2FMA allowed me to finish my thesis when I was slowly dying of internal bleeding.
 
I've used several different drugs for motivation: caffeine, cocaine, amphetamine, dextroamphetamine, methamphetamine, oxycodone, modafinil, creatine, ginkgo biloba, L-theanine, ginseng, kratom, and plain ol' sugar. Also various combinations of all of the above.

What I've found is that they all work spectacularly at first. Like the first month, the first couple of days, or the first few hours. But every one of them has turned on me and induced the paradoxical Amotivational Syndrome.

Every time.

Motivation must come from within. Ya can't induce it. Believe me, I've tried.
 
SuperPsych said:
I find low doses of dissociatives help me focus, without being too forceful or distracting. 3-MeO-PCP, 3-CL-PCP, 3-HO-PCP, MXPR and others I've used with success to help get things done. Addiction is possible with dissociatives but less likely than with stimulants
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For sure they do and on top of that they can aid to keep tolerance to stimulants at bay. The only time I was able to keep a job for considerable time was when I was using DXM + ritalin (150 / 18 mg respectively). But dissociatives come with their own pitfalls, the dosage is hard to find and a thin line, sometimes it'd feel like I'd need a little bit more just to find myself doing senseless stuff for hours. Also I got heavily addicted to them, more than to stimulants but this was also when I was in a very dark place after my first long term gf put me out on street overnight. Before I was well able to control dissociative use.

jasperkent said:
Motivation must come from within. Ya can't induce it. Believe me, I've tried.
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That's true too with possibly one exception, said dissociatives. It's possible to induce motivation out of nothing but the real struggle lies in controlling it.
 
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wudbutcher said:
90% of what’s written on here are rantings from chemically damaged introverts anyway. That’s the truth. By the statement mankind not meant to feel that good, I simply meant God mode is reserved for God
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I always leave one line for God or strain through the night, you are right he doesn't need it because when I wake up there is it the thing I left so I think just a thought...well who can be sure?, but I guess he's like you need it more than I do, so I take it always ;)
 
Buy some Stacker 3's or some no doze I guess? Back in junior high I used to steal stackers and sell them to some friends for motivation for their upcoming football game/track or any athletics...couldn't buy them unless you were 18 at the time and I was surprised at how many came back for more.
 
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