Benzos Best Benzo (or something else) for anxiety?

[A_Speedball]

I would stay away from benzos at all costs. Try flexeril, its a muscle relaxant that relaxes you very well. If you insist on taking a benzo I would go with k-pins.

 

[pillmayne777]

What is better klonopin or xanax for anxiety?

 

[Depressicaa]

Learning to beat your fear. Pill wise nothing.

 

[TheLostBoys]

I reccommend ONE dose of MDMA. After this dose, DO NOT EVER USE IT AGAIN!!!!!

Anxiety is usually caused by some event or events that happened in one's life. Sometimes, these are not consciously remembered. However, 5-HT2A partial agonists (LSD, psilocybin, DMT, and a host of others) can unlock/unblock these events and cause them to surface, while at the same time opening up your subconscious. When surfaced, one can find solutions to them, hence leading to the end of the problem.

I never reccommend hallucinogens though.

Excellent recommendation! Make sure you good MDMA & not the stuff mixed with garbage in it.

 

[dildonian jr.]

im on prozac and vyvanse and klonopin and abilifyy
talk to your doctor about abilify,it has really helped me get my confidence
also the amphetamine boost self eseetm

 

[Pegasus]

Confidence has to be found within yourself. Psychoactive, non-psychedelic drugs work like a band-aid -- they cover up problems for a short time, they don't cure them.

Psychedelics are good for exploring your mind a bit, but I wouldn't say that they directly lead to gaining confidence in yourself. They can however help you see negative things in your life and change them, which in turn can give you confidence once your life becomes more cohesive...

 

[TripZoid]

I'd love to stop being a pussy and be able to talk to girls and stuff.

It would be preferable if it was long lasting, strong and did not make me sleepy or kill my sex drive. So far I'm reading about Klonopin being good. I've had Lorazapam (half an mg put me to sleep with no tolerance) and Xanax (half a bar put me to sleep for 13 hours). Guess my tolerance isn't that high. Lorazapam made me feel like I was drunk though. I'm currently getting Zoloft for anxiety, but I really don't want it. I'm going to talk to my doctor about it soon. I never really got euphoria from benzos, I don't know if I was taking too little or whatever, but I don't really care for it, as long as it helps with anxiety.

When I woke up from the Lorazapam, I felt like my face was saggy, is that common (or was it placebo)?

Thanks!

Hey there! I got a few words for you, benzos are extreamly dangerous, the withdrawls are fckin hell. im talkin from experience here please listen, i dropped to the ground 6times with seziures almost died,
but if your not caring about the withdrawls then your best bet for your problem IMO, would be valium, take about 20mg if u have no tolerance.
its long lasting, relaxes your musscles so IMO it always wanted em to get laid so i guess it will help talk to girls lol

 

[Lord]

Temazepam and klonopin sound good. Valium may be relaxing. Something like lorazepam would be too sedating and alprazolam would be to short. Try to find a balance between just a little anxiety and just a little benzo, this is good for a variety of reasons:
- to be functional and appear relatively sober, keep your sex drive and energy, etc.
- to avoid tolerance buildup (if you abuse it (daily high-dose) it will become subtle after roughly a month, two if you're lucky)
- to avoid dependency or addiction (withdrawal and dependency will become apparent in roughly the same time, one maybe two months)
- to reduce short and long-term mental impairment

My recommendations (taken individually)

Dose:
(starting out) (normal dose) (maximum dose, tolerance included)
Temazepam: 10mg 10-30mg 30-40mg
Diazepam/Valium: 5mg 5-15mg 15-20mg
Clonazepam/Klonopin: 0.25mg 0.25-0.75mg 0.75-1mg

Duration / frequency:
2 times per week max
2 months of use max

These recommendations are fairly safe estimates, in the spirit of harm-reduction but keeping things realistic as well. If you stick to this, or something similar, it may be a lot easier to avoid problems (benzo-induced problems are not easy to get rid of, don't get on that wagon).

 

[slim567]

Be very careful, if you hit off with a girl she wants some drinks, you have to watch yourself otherwise you could get fucked, and that aint attractive.

Good luck in finding a girl, just make them laugh seriously thats basically all there is too it, oh and going down on them keeps them keen + its lush.

I would use temazepam, u find the dosafe out for yourself.

 

[kanyeknievel]

Im sure this has been answered plenty of times before, but seriously man you don't need benzos. What you need to do is either A. go to a therapist (CBT) therapists are very good for stuff like that. You can talk to the person on why you have anxiety with talking to girls, how to overcome it, and strengtehn yourself over all. B. Just force yourself to talk to girls, even if it will make you uncomfortable. I have a similar issue, but I learned that its always just the icebreaking moments thats the hardest and after 5 or 10 minutes of chilln its fine, and there is nothing to worry about.

And if the girl thinks something strange of you, fuck her, shes a bitch and she obviously wasn't meant for you either way.

Benzos aren't a good thing to have, i take them for depersonalization, i wish i hadnt started but it really helps I have to admit. Im going to get off of it as soon as i can. But honestly Klonopin works for me for long lasting and keep a steady mind and no panicking. It doesn't make me tired at all, but it seems like Benzos really make you tired so maybe none will work so well. Possibly valium or clonzapem though since they have long halflikes, making htem not as strong as xanax.
Start with the lowest dose possible if your going to go with benzos. Don't go up and ONLY use it when you need to. Then after you've goen through talking to girls with them, youll realise how stupid it was to worry so much about talking to them and you wont need them after

 

[Depressicaa]

Thanks a lot.
Have you personally used CBT? I feel that many people who exclaim about its greatness haven't tried it before. I'm not saying its not good, it just seems like the 'holy grail' both in the regard that it fixes everything and also its rarity.

I have Klonopin and Xanax. Luckily I don't like them and I rarely take them.

 

[kanyeknievel]

Thanks a lot.
Have you personally used CBT? I feel that many people who exclaim about its greatness haven't tried it before. I'm not saying its not good, it just seems like the 'holy grail' both in the regard that it fixes everything and also its rarity.

I have Klonopin and Xanax. Luckily I don't like them and I rarely take them.

Thats good you dont take them, its not something you should take everyday, and if yours younger thats really not good to be on them.


Yes i go to a CBT therapist every week, i love going to her. Very helpful, can talk and talk and figure out problems and, it just really helps me. Im sure one would be very usful for you aswell!

 

[Depressicaa]

Oh wow thanks! Do you have any resources (I read wikipedia and some other top sites on google only haha) on this? I have not really met anyone who suggested that and also had CBT as well lol, so I was always skeptical.

 

[kanyeknievel]

Oh wow thanks! Do you have any resources (I read wikipedia and some other top sites on google only haha) on this? I have not really met anyone who suggested that and also had CBT as well lol, so I was always skeptical.

What do you mean resources and suggested what and also went to CBT? sorry just a bit confused about ur post

 

[Pegasus]

He's saying that most people that suggest therapy to others didn't themselves go to therapy, they just go on it's reputed benefits. I think the obvious answer to this is that the majority of people don't have anxiety to the level that they would consider medicine or therapy for it. Furthermore, people that do have this level of anxiety are probably less approachable because of said anxiety.

Honestly, think of it from the opposing POV Depressicaa, from the POV of the person giving you advice. What other advice really is there to give you? You either talk about it with a councilor or someone else in an attempt to gain perspective, you medicate over it for awhile, you resolve it yourself, or it just goes unresolved... I really don't see any other advice that there really is to give. Of those possibilities, only two are really viable options for the long term, and those two are: 1) you resolve it yourself, or 2) you have assistance in trying to resolve it.

 

[Depressicaa]

There seems to be three options, unless me helping myself umbrellas drug usage (psychedelics seemed to be the only 'one time or a few time' drug therapies). My question was on drugs mostly, there are many therapies, and whatnot, your point is well taken though.

I'm just skeptical on therapies since I haven't had a good one, and all of them have just wanted my money or my relatives money.

 

[deaf eye]

this may help a little,

 

[HT harm redux]

CBT and a pyschiatrist

For you my friend, id recommend a cognitive behavioural therapist as well as a psychiatrist that can help you obtain a script for benzos. while the therapist will help you change your lifestyle and any bad habits impeding on your goals in life

 

[Depressicaa]

this may help a little,

Read it, know all about the pickup artist's world. Its easy to digest, but hard to act out in my experience. I read it four years ago, and I am too emotionally inexperienced to act. This is on the subject of pickup in general, none of them really clicked with me besides DiCarlo.

For you my friend, id recommend a cognitive behavioural therapist as well as a psychiatrist that can help you obtain a script for benzos. while the therapist will help you change your lifestyle and any bad habits impeding on your goals in life

Thanks.

 

[Depressicaa]

Just an update: I hate them. They make me lose memory, I kept forgetting what an alternator was and kept wanting to call it an accelerator. I don't even want to take them for sleep because I am afraid they will ruin my memory. I am scared of these drugs, and I get a lot. I don't want any long term problems from them. They are nice to have instead of alcohol, but I didn't like that very much either, so I drink a beer or two, with a .5 Xanax and 1mg kpin during parties and get really fucked up.

For new years, I had a kpin and 6 shots, at least I didn't pass out, but it was so strong!