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Benzos Best Benzo (or something else) for anxiety?

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>>See a psych, be completely honest. We're not PhDs here. Only they can decide what you really need>>

well the psych profession has been infiltrated by the money machine

barbs were prescribed, then doctors found out they were addictive. pharma decides to take the market back with benzos, marketing them as non addictive. doctors realize how horrible the w/d is. now they're pushing SSRIs which were technically addictive but they changed the diagnostic statistical manual for doctors and renamed SSRI w/d as "discontinuation syndrome"

if you see a psychiatrist today, SSRIs will be their first line. if you ask for something else, chances are they'll get suspicious even

we need to get rid of this legislation so that we can take charge of our own health. even if we don't have a PHD, we can still think

instead of making novel drugs, money is in copycat drugs. companies searched for variations on the barbiturates to make other barbs and then claim "we have a new barb that is less addictive" and take most the market. they did the same thing with benzos (the reason we have like 20 different benzos), and they are doing the same thing with SSRIs and SNRIs

money train all the way

>>Being a female, we're also if even more nervous about approaching the opposite sex. Drugs needed in order to talk to a chick? We don't bite, hun.>>

you don't? :P
 
Well my current cocktail is Cymbalta with Abilify and benztropine to aid in the restlessness that Abilify will give you (along with the inability to sleep through the night). I think by buscar you mean Buspar, which is a non-narcotic anti-anxiety drug which builds up in your system. You might find that it works for you.

And no, girls don't bite, unless of course you ask nicely...
 
qwe said:
>>See a psych, be completely honest. We're not PhDs here. Only they can decide what you really need>>

well the psych profession has been infiltrated by the money machine

barbs were prescribed, then doctors found out they were addictive. pharma decides to take the market back with benzos, marketing them as non addictive. doctors realize how horrible the w/d is. now they're pushing SSRIs which were technically addictive but they changed the diagnostic statistical manual for doctors and renamed SSRI w/d as "discontinuation syndrome"

if you see a psychiatrist today, SSRIs will be their first line. if you ask for something else, chances are they'll get suspicious even

we need to get rid of this legislation so that we can take charge of our own health. even if we don't have a PHD, we can still think

instead of making novel drugs, money is in copycat drugs. companies searched for variations on the barbiturates to make other barbs and then claim "we have a new barb that is less addictive" and take most the market. they did the same thing with benzos (the reason we have like 20 different benzos), and they are doing the same thing with SSRIs and SNRIs

money train all the way

>>Being a female, we're also if even more nervous about approaching the opposite sex. Drugs needed in order to talk to a chick? We don't bite, hun.>>

you don't? :P
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Yeah, thats why I didn't even wanna try the SSRI. I got the prescription, read the side effects and though, wow this sounds pretty dangerous. That and my sister decided to throw my pills around, fucking bitch. :p

I have an appointment with a psych soon, I hope he understands that I want to try anything (including non-scheduled drugs) that works instantly and isn't an SSRI.

I don't know, I thought that GABA affecting products such as alcohol have always been a standard product for speaking to the opposite sex.

I'm pretty sure that I have some sort of mild depression as well, I don't know if MAOIs are better than SSRIs.
 
Xanax is apparently the best for social anxiety too. Never used it but want too. Valium works too. And drinking loosens me up too. I would get ur doc to prescribe something like buspar i take it everyday for anxiety its not addictive but takes 4 weeks to work. If its not strong enough take a lil bit of benzos when you hang out with girls or friends. I have anxiety and social anxiety as well.
 
MAOIs do irreversible changes iirc (or was that tricyclics? ). they're a previous generation of "SSRI like drugs"

you have to watch your diet really carefully with them, as some bad complications can result. i can't remember what foods and such are contraindicated but there are so many you'll probably have to change your diet. i'm pretty sure they take about the same onset time as SSRIs to work as well

but if it all works out on maois for you then go for it

>>I got the prescription, read the side effects and though, wow this sounds pretty dangerous.>>

me too 8) i might ask for another script of ssris just to help me through PAWs, not sure about "discontinuation syndrome" and the side effects though. i'd hate to rebound from an anti-d

>>I don't know, I thought that GABA affecting products such as alcohol have always been a standard product for speaking to the opposite sex.>>

they are, some people just like to go along with the "be clean" vibe. "clean" may mean debilitating symptoms though, sometimes meds are necessary

GABA and Opies = 3 first gf's in about 3 months for me. they brought balance to my social reality

fyi i'm still on benzos... after several months, they won't do what they used to, and after a couple years, it'll be a long long time before you can abuse them with low tolerance (assuming you quit). so, if you want a benzo that you can use "as needed" without a long duration, i'd pick xanax; the other ones, if used a couple times a week, could cause inter-w/d and some dependence because of their long half lives

then again psychologically, it's not hard to get used to xanax's rush since its duration is so short
 
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I used to think I needed benzo's to talk to girls. believe me, you don't. no one wants to hear it, but you really want someone to like you for who you are, not for what a drug/drink makes you, and at least in my experiences, benzo's made me an asshole. Granted, it might have gotten me laid a few extra times, but if I could take those experiences back, I would have. Learning to talk to the opposite sex is just one of those things that you sort of have to learn to do the hard way. I still am not a pimp by any means, but I've also gotten comfortable in being myself around girls, and if they don't like the way I act, then there would never be a relationship to begin with.
 
We really need another thread about taking benzo's to talk to girls? Are we still in fifth grade?
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It's statements like this as to why there is such a fucking stigma around anxiety and anxiety disorders. If you have never suffered with chronic anxiety, then you simply don't know what you're talking about. She isn't asking for a "confidence" booster, she is asking about how to control probably debilitating anxiety. Being diagnosed with panic disorder since age 18, I know what that is like. Hell, for some people, just being able to walk out their front door becomes a near impossible task. Please have some stinking compassion....if you haven't walked in these shoes, then you honestly have NO idea.

Same with people saying "you need to teach yourself"...etc etc etc,,,it is not that easy, b/c if it was, any of us with anxiety would do it.

OP...1st of all, if you haven't tried therapy, I would highly recommend it, specifically CBT (cognitive behavior therapy). While meds will certainly help lessen the symptoms, you need long term coping skills...and that's where therapy is irreplaceable.

As for meds....I personally have had a lot of success with antidepressants with a short acting benzo (Ativan, Xanax) for strictlly "as needed" use. With this kind of thing....many times it requires a bit of trial and error trying different meds until you find the "right" one for you, as everyone reacts differently to different meds. The short acting benzos are really only designed for either "as needed" use (like a "rescue" med in times where anxiety is high), or short term courses of treatment (usually no more than about 3 months if used regularly) b/c of the tolerance issues. Klonopin is a great option for long term maintenence to basically try to "prevent" anxiety rather than treating it when it pops up. But, as someone else mentioned, it seems as though benzos in general sort of knock you on your behind, and Klonopin is a tough one in that respect. Stay away from meds like Adderall as it can seriously increase anxiety, as it is stimulating.

My advice to you is...if you haven't already...find a good psychiatrist who can officially diagnose what anxiety disorder you have (if any) and recommend a medication regimen, and therapy. I prefer that people are maintained on these kinds of meds more by a psych than a PCP, especially if it is for the long-term.

Best of luck to you, and just know that there are a lot of us who know what you go through, it really can be rough!!!
 
Personally I found clonazepam to be the most useful benzo for anxiety. It's not too recreational but if you're truely looking for anxiety relief that shouldn't even be in the equation. BEst of luck bro.
 
^ It isn't and I was hoping that I will get it next time I talk to a psychiatrist or my GP. I don't think its nessasary for me to use everyday, but everyone thinks that don't they? Haha
 
Hey if you can hold off and not use everyday clonazepam becomes infinitely more useful because tolerance doesn't rise as much. These days ( been a benzo addict for 8 years now ) I don't use everyday and it works better than when i did use everyday.
 
I use at doses ranging from 1mg to 4mg at once depending on amount of anxiety. Usually 2-3 times a week. It never does completely leave my system. The drowsiness is a side effect that pretty much goes away quickly.
 
i noticed nobody said anything about the lyrica business - yes, it is an anti anxiety medication, but it is also a very powerful painkiller (of sorts). not to mention, it is just as if not more addictive then xanax or clonazepam. my boyfriend is prescribed it because he severed the sciatic nerve in his leg, it also doubles as his anxiety medication, but seeing him go through withdrawal is very, very, not pretty. i would really question the sanity of any doctor prescribing lyrica solely for anxiety.
 
benzos benzos benzos......perfect for any kind of anxiety. Just make sure you know how to taper correctly. No prob.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Depressica: (most) benzos interrupt REM sleep, therefore only something like temazepam improves sleep. Triazolam doesn't last long enough to interrupt most/all of your REM sleep, otherwise, benzos detract from quality of sleep.

The best anxiolytic is a psychedelic IMO. Most people would disagree with this.
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Surely most people would disagree, but I agree whole-heartedly. Psychedelics (if taken with purpose and the right mindset) will teach you much about yourself, how you could be more of the person you want/should/are meant to be, and since you can look at yourself from an outsider's perspective in some senses, you become much more in tune with yourself. This often leads to increased self-confidence, better knowledge of what your strengths and shortcomings are, and more awareness of the consequences of your actions and how they may affect other people.
 
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I'd love to stop being a pussy and be able to talk to girls and stuff.

It would be preferable if it was long lasting, strong and did not make me sleepy or kill my sex drive. So far I'm reading about Klonopin being good. I've had Lorazapam (half an mg put me to sleep with no tolerance) and Xanax (half a bar put me to sleep for 13 hours). Guess my tolerance isn't that high. Lorazapam made me feel like I was drunk though. I'm currently getting Zoloft for anxiety, but I really don't want it. I'm going to talk to my doctor about it soon. I never really got euphoria from benzos, I don't know if I was taking too little or whatever, but I don't really care for it, as long as it helps with anxiety.

When I woke up from the Lorazapam, I felt like my face was saggy, is that common (or was it placebo)?

Thanks!
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lots of people hate on it but Klonipin has been a godsend for me. Like you i was really socially awkard.. and now i just take my 1mg 2wice a day and i feel great.
they're not particularly "fun" persay, but for people liek you and i who actually need them to live a healthy life I think klonipin is the best bet

Xanax is a scourge, so incredibly addictive, rebound anxiety, and ughh.
lorazepam, diazepam are not much better...

and quite honestly i like the little buzz i get from my K-pins. if you go to see a psych he probaby won't start you on then straight off (unless he's a newb or just really cool), so they might throw some antidepressants at you.

I was losing faith that i'd ever be able to be happy and live my life and talk to people without panic attacks everyday and the klonipin did the trick. the longer half life is nice too, not like u hafta take xanax 3x a day and miss a dose and flip out.

goodluck OP if u have any more questions ask away :D
 
when i had no benzo tolerance, i'd take one and a half (0.75mg) and feel the effects enough to be very comfortable, 1.25-1.5 and i'd feel it pretty good

those were the days, every day with complete anxiolysis and no insomnia
 
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