Best Beginner Steroid Cycle that is fairly cheap

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I am 6ft, 220 lbs, 25% body fat. What is the best weight loss or cutting steroid that can make lose weight quick?
 
why don't you cut a little without steroids. 25% bf is kinda high. I think the main benefit of testosterone is that you can bulk to a much greater degree without gaining much fat. Your body really eats up whatever nutrients you put in when you're on a good dose of test, compared to normal you might store much less fat.

I've been about 5-6 weeks on and I've gained 12 pounds and lost a good bit of fat. Shooting for 8 more pounds of lean mass and then some body fat loss.

I think the perfect cycle would be:
testosterone 400mg/week (weeks 1-12)
Anavar 40mg/day (weeks 6-12)
PCT: nolvadex and HCG

Maybe throw in some GHRP6/CJC1295 at the end overlapping across the last 2-4 weeks of cycle + the first 1-2 weeks of PCT.

Although only if you can find the anavar in bulk powder (which sadly I cannot :(). Otherwise that stuff is way too expensive to be practical.
 
Whatchamacallit said:
Diet & cardio.
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Well I know cardio will make you lose weight, but not all of it will be fat, you will also lose some muscle. I heard you build muscle by strength training and the muscle will burn fat. I am just trying to find out if any med can speed up fat loss
 
Gaian Planes said:
why don't you cut a little without steroids. 25% bf is kinda high. I think the main benefit of testosterone is that you can bulk to a much greater degree without gaining much fat. Your body really eats up whatever nutrients you put in when you're on a good dose of test, compared to normal you might store much less fat.

I've been about 5-6 weeks on and I've gained 12 pounds and lost a good bit of fat. Shooting for 8 more pounds of lean mass and then some body fat loss.

I think the perfect cycle would be:
testosterone 400mg/week (weeks 1-12)
Anavar 40mg/day (weeks 6-12)
PCT: nolvadex and HCG

Maybe throw in some GHRP6/CJC1295 at the end overlapping across the last 2-4 weeks of cycle + the first 1-2 weeks of PCT.

Although only if you can find the anavar in bulk powder (which sadly I cannot :(). Otherwise that stuff is way too expensive to be practical.
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How much would that cycle be?
 
Gaian Planes said:
why don't you cut a little without steroids. 25% bf is kinda high. I think the main benefit of testosterone is that you can bulk to a much greater degree without gaining much fat. Your body really eats up whatever nutrients you put in when you're on a good dose of test, compared to normal you might store much less fat.

I've been about 5-6 weeks on and I've gained 12 pounds and lost a good bit of fat. Shooting for 8 more pounds of lean mass and then some body fat loss.

I think the perfect cycle would be:
testosterone 400mg/week (weeks 1-12)
Anavar 40mg/day (weeks 6-12)
PCT: nolvadex and HCG

Maybe throw in some GHRP6/CJC1295 at the end overlapping across the last 2-4 weeks of cycle + the first 1-2 weeks of PCT.

Although only if you can find the anavar in bulk powder (which sadly I cannot :(). Otherwise that stuff is way too expensive to be practical.
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Oh you live in the Atlanta area also?
 
yep for 2 more months (then I'm free of this place no offense intended :D).

I'm not sure the moderator wants us to discuss price here in public.

It wouldn't be much though. I think maybe it would be 300-400 dollars? (a lot less if you didn't go with the growth hormone stuff).

but yeah your best bet would be diet, cardio, and intense lifting (low rep high intensity). If you lift real hard then that will help you retain what muscle you have while you cut.

People often think that since you're cutting you should be doing high rep work. This is actually counterproductive. You should only do high volume work (imo) when you're bulking, otherwise you will stall out because high rep work requires overfeeding on carbs and protein to really work for the moderate long-run (month+).
 
Gaian Planes said:
yep for 2 more months (then I'm free of this place no offense intended :D).

I'm not sure the moderator wants us to discuss price here in public.

It wouldn't be much though. I think maybe it would be 300-400 dollars? (a lot less if you didn't go with the growth hormone stuff).

but yeah your best bet would be diet, cardio, and intense lifting (low rep high intensity). If you lift real hard then that will help you retain what muscle you have while you cut.

People often think that since you're cutting you should be doing high rep work. This is actually counterproductive. You should only do high volume work (imo) when you're bulking, otherwise you will stall out because high rep work requires overfeeding on carbs and protein to really work for the moderate long-run (month+).
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Ok thanks you for the info!
 
Gaian Planes said:
yep for 2 more months (then I'm free of this place no offense intended :D).

I'm not sure the moderator wants us to discuss price here in public.

It wouldn't be much though. I think maybe it would be 300-400 dollars? (a lot less if you didn't go with the growth hormone stuff).

but yeah your best bet would be diet, cardio, and intense lifting (low rep high intensity). If you lift real hard then that will help you retain what muscle you have while you cut.

People often think that since you're cutting you should be doing high rep work. This is actually counterproductive. You should only do high volume work (imo) when you're bulking, otherwise you will stall out because high rep work requires overfeeding on carbs and protein to really work for the moderate long-run (month+).
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Me personally I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE TO GET GEAR AT. My cuz might though. I hope I can find a source for it.
 
well if you have no idea where to get steroids from, then all you should be worried about now is doing a lot of research. I mean a lot of reading dude. I spent at least an hour every day for months on end researching steroids before I started using (reading scientific articles, reading textbooks to understand the HPTA axis, reading anecdotal reports/logs of steroid users, etc etc).
 
Gaian Planes said:
well if you have no idea where to get steroids from, then all you should be worried about now is doing a lot of research. I mean a lot of reading dude. I spent at least an hour every day for months on end researching steroids before I started using (reading scientific articles, reading textbooks to understand the HPTA axis, reading anecdotal reports/logs of steroid users, etc etc).
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Ok I have n ever heard of some of those words
 
Guys!! The OP has not said how old he is, and here we are suggesting doses, compounds, and cycles?? Enough. He has not even posted what his diet and workout routine is like....or if he has one for that matter.

I don't want to keep having to close threads because some wont take a moment to read the rules...he could be 15 for all we know.

To the OP: If you have a 25% bf, AAS should be the last thing to look at. Like Whatchamacallit said, diet and cardio should be the only things to concentrate on right now. And if you don't understand any of the words that Gaian Planes mentioned, you need to do A LOT of homework.

In the future, please post your age along with the rest of your stats when seeking advice.

/V
 
Those prices above are high, where I'm from a ml of sust will cost far less than a gallon of petrol
 
yeah the test isn't expensive, but the ancillaries can get expensive. Especially if you like things like proviron or amiradex (spelling sorry).
 
Whatchamacallit said:
Diet & cardio.
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Cardiovascular exercises are not for loosing weight. Sure everyone does them to lose weight, but the reality is you will burn more calories through resistance training. Cardio should be used for stamina and respiratory training. Most people either do cardio for losing weight because they are uneducated, or because cardio is easier.

To OP, make sure you get enough sleep, and try to keep stress out of your life. Lack of sleep, and too much stress will make you gain tremendously.

Also, avoid sugar, PERIOD.

My BF% is less than 10%, and cardio is not in my routine.
 
sorebuttcheeks said:
Cardiovascular exercises are not for loosing weight. Sure everyone does them to lose weight, but the reality is you will burn more calories through resistance training. Cardio should be used for stamina and respiratory training. Most people either do cardio for losing weight because they are uneducated, or because cardio is easier.

To OP, make sure you get enough sleep, and try to keep stress out of your life. Lack of sleep, and too much stress will make you gain tremendously.

Also, avoid sugar, PERIOD.

My BF% is less than 10%, and cardio is not in my routine.
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Sorry but what most of what you said is b.s. Resistance training is just part of a body recomp and really dosent burn that many cals to begin with. Too many cals in makes you gain weight not stress or lack of sleep although it may make weightloss slightly harder. Cardio is used to create a larger defecit on a diet and is a very important part of getting lean. Avoid sugar??? What about dextrose, maltodextrin etc etc?? B.S.
 
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Space invader said:
Sorry but what most of what you said is b.s. Resistance training is just part of a body recomp and really dosent burn that many cals to begin with. Too many cals in makes you gain weight not stress or lack of sleep although it may make weightloss slightly harder. Cardio is used to create a larger defecit on a diet and is a very important part of getting lean. Avoid sugar??? What about dextrose, maltodextrin etc etc?? B.S.
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While you are actively exercising, cardiovascular exercise burns more calories than resistance training of the same comparative intensity. This reality alone causes a huge deal of misunderstanding, and feeds misinformation to the fitness media. There is a great deal more to the story than the amount of calories we burn during a workout. How many calories are exhausted post-workout is also relevant to weight loss. When our cardiovascular workout ends, it takes the body a small amount of minutes to go back to a resting heart rate, and therefore resting metabolism. However, when we finish resistance training, our metabolism is affected by tissue repair and growth for up to 72 hours; you can notice this by looking at length of soreness post-workouts.
Now let us look into the long-term picture. Resistance training over time will cause the body to create lean muscle mass. Lean muscle is more metabolically active. Elevating our metabolism causes the body to burn more calories during everything that we do, day and night; hence the saying, “I have a high metabolism, and that’s why I’m skinny”. Resistance training is a more successful way to improve body composition than cardiovascular activity, both in the short-term and the long-term. Cardiovascular training is still important, but we call it "cardio" for a reason: it is primarily for the heart.
For more information, you can find graphs and hard facts in scientific papers. I do not recommend acquiring your information from joeblowsarticles.com. Instead, I recommend looking into the Journal of Applied Physiology, or Google searching biomedical scientists like R. S. Staron.:p:p
 
OK, fair enough. Some of what you said is true and some incorrect. I just learn from people smarter than me. Look up Lyle Mcdonald, Martin Berkin, Alan Aragon, Casey Butt etc. etc. to see what really happens to a natural bodybuilder and how much work has to go into it including 'cardio' to reach your potential.
 
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