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Best Anti-Depression Medicine

unfortunately there is not a solid answer to the question, as it varies widely. you have to tweak around with several SSRI's to get the chosen antidepressive effects because everybodys brain chemistry is so different. not to discourage you, but personally for me it took about 5years to get the right cocktail of meds to relieve me of the major depression i had and i also am relatively sane now. dont give up, it can take up to 4-6 weeks (maybe a little longer) to achieve the full effect of the drug(s). and if you experience any severe adverse effects contact your doc immediately. the poster above with the herbal supplements idea is likely your best bet.

p.s. benzos are generally not a great idea, an average percent of people really really need them tho, hopefully you are not one of them, as mentioned earlier by fellow bluelighters they can make matters much, much worse. happy trails
 
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^and opiods wouldn't cause addiction?




except for heroin addicts who are eternally bound to opiates/oids, noone, i mean noone should ever take opiates/oids for depression, as once inevitable cessation happens, whether you built up a too expensive habit or w/e, all good effects dissappear, leaving in its place despair and suicidal thoughts.



Take my advice, taper slowly off the benzos and pick up a new book and exercise, try green tea, the alkaloid theanine has some GABA affinity, which will help with benzo w/d, but you dont want to be taking pills all your life.

So you're saying benzo's would be a better addiction? If he's going to take high doses of benzo's, he might as well take high doses of opes, which aren't nearly as dangerous upon withdrawal as long as you stay hydrated. Something like low-dose buprenorphine, which is reportedly good for depression and anxiety would suffice.
 
So you're saying benzo's would be a better addiction? If he's going to take high doses of benzo's, he might as well take high doses of opes, which aren't nearly as dangerous upon withdrawal as long as you stay hydrated. Something like low-dose buprenorphine, which is reportedly good for depression and anxiety would suffice.

yeah but does low-dose buprenorphine kill panic attacks like 2mgs of clonazepam + .5 of alprazolam? i highly dout it. i cant even enjoy hydrocodone anymore unless i mix in some clonazepam to kill the anxiety i recently started getting when using hydrocodone.

but despite that. with my mind set i'd hate to see what would happen to me if i got a monthly opiate script. i think i have better self control with benzos...well most of the time.:p
 
LSD

It saved my life :D

Ditto lol

I was on one SSRI, Venflaxine for a week or so during heroin withdrawls. Such TRASH!! It made my WD's 100% because when I got tired of insomnia, headaches, and limpdick and cold turkeyed the SSRI and got weird tactile sensations all over my skin. LIke electricity flowing every time I moved, it was really fucked up and I will NEVER EVER take another anti depressant. Ive been somewhat depressed since then and @ no point would I take a anti depressant
 
yeah but does low-dose buprenorphine kill panic attacks like 2mgs of clonazepam + .5 of alprazolam? i highly dout it. i cant even enjoy hydrocodone anymore unless i mix in some clonazepam to kill the anxiety i recently started getting when using hydrocodone.

but despite that. with my mind set i'd hate to see what would happen to me if i got a monthly opiate script. i think i have better self control with benzos...well most of the time.:p

Yea, I wouldn't know what a panic disorder is like so i shouldn't talk. But suboxone completely obliterated any anxiety I had.
 
The only thing I could find was actual drugs. I've HEARD Effexor is great. I have tried prozac and was not a fan at all...
 
I'm on 50mg Zoloft now been trying to get of it for ages.
Mitrazapine is the best anti-d, man you sleep like a baby on it.....
 
tramadol 150mg in the morning does it for me, no urge for more, depression and mania both reduced to controllable levels. i feel distanced and numb enough to let my logic overide the intense and allconsuming hell that is bipolar disorder. i have a job, a life, friends, can go out in public and altough life is still very stressfull i can pass for functional to the majority of people which is great step up from a year ago.

the single greatest effect of tramadol is reduced paranoia, something no ssri ever could get rid of

people have to accept that no matter how effective a drug can be that thought patterns are components of depression and other mental disorders and that as such the sufferer has to make an effort to counteract these. i feel suicidal at the moment but i tell myself that ive felt this before, it will pass, its just my illness playing tricks and that my long term goals will not be beaten by this shitty life. i know from experience that within a month or maybe a couple i'll be riding high on my joys again.

overcome your FEELINGS with LOGIC
 
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yeah but does low-dose buprenorphine kill panic attacks like 2mgs of clonazepam + .5 of alprazolam? i highly dout it. i cant even enjoy hydrocodone anymore unless i mix in some clonazepam to kill the anxiety i recently started getting when using hydrocodone.

but despite that. with my mind set i'd hate to see what would happen to me if i got a monthly opiate script. i think i have better self control with benzos...well most of the time.:p

Benzo addiction is horrible...

After being through many addictions:
Weed 13 to 14 and then from 16 to 20 years old,
Methamphetamine from 14 to 19 but did it a few times after that,
Alcohol at the age of 17, everyday for almost a year now just occasionally
I did heroin 5-7 times at 15 and don't ask me how but i never got addicted
I've been smoking sigarettes since the age of 12 and never stopped
I tried cocaine for the first time at 16 and i thought it was a joke even though i took a lot of it, i even tried injecting it but it was a silly stimulant to me after all the meth (and occasionally MDMA) i took.
Throughout theese years i've always felt a deep sorrow, depression, anxiety, fear and desperation for some reasons that i dont know and for some reasons that i dont want to talk about because they are just ..........'Incredible'(it has a lot to do with my family).
I've always kept everything to myself and never seeked professional help even if i would talk with a few close friends about my problems, however i always believed that a true relationship and true love would solve my pain and my sorrow. Plain sex, no matter how good it was and with how many girls i did it wasn't enough to feel good about my existence so i only got into a relationship only when it was emotionally worth it.
There have ben about 4 big love stories in my life which helped me a LOT and the last ones should have been the best ones but my inability to feel and to desire got stronger till i went completely insane because i couldn't reconize myself as a human anymore. i went into deep psychosis trying to find a reason to my condition. There wasnt a single thing that would interest me or please me anymore. I decided to seek professional help. I've seen unbelievable numbers of psychologists and psychiatrists and tried massive types of antidepressants, SSRis, SSDRis, mood stabilizers, mild stimulants, many tranquillizers and benzodiazepines.
At some point i just 'flipped' and i suddenly stopped going to any psychologist/iatrist and also stopped any pharmacological treatment.
I did benzoz many times for fun before and enjoyed them a lot because they where really effective in suppressing my anxiety and give me the opportunity to pretend to feel good about myself by doing whatever came to my mind regardless of what anyone would say or think.
I knew how to fake prescriptions so i self prescribed yself with the best benzo i knew, Clonazepam.
Here in Italy its sold under the name 'Rivotril' which comes also in liquid form (2,5mg per ml, 10 drops=1ml) for oral absumption. I started with 30-40 drops twice a day along with alcohol, actually i would dissolve the drops in my beer, wine rhum or whatever i was drinking. tollerance built up really fast and after a couple of weeks i would take 100-150 drops twice a day.
In my folishness and unresponsability i decided to start injecting it even if it wasn't meant for intrvenous absumption.
5ml (12,5 mg) in the late afternoon and then lots of alcohol with occasional opioid use (oxycodone, hydrocodone, tramadol mostly).
The tollerance kept getting stronger and when i go to the point that i was injecting 10ml (25mg) twice a day (so 50mg per day) without feeling the same sedating anxiolitic effect as i used to i somehow decided to stop immediately cuz it became pointless and seriously life-threatning. Had few symptoms of benzo withdrawal but my memory and my concentration took a long time to improve back almost to when i wasnt taking benzos nor opioids.
its been 6 months that i stopped but i did it again twice, 25mg IV and saw that my tollerance was still almost as high as before.
Now when i think back to it and take a look at my mutilated arms.....am even more speechles than before.

From my experience....all i can say is that there's nothing more powerful to treat depression than yourself, your willpower , your confidence , your honesty and the will to love and be loved.
 
i have been on almost everything from SSRI's to tricyclic anti-depressants. the best thing is WELBUTRION. it also gives you a nice little speedy buzz for the first few months, kinda like a lot of caffeine without the giters and such. kinda like a trammadol speedy feeling

Bupropion is decent if giving up drugs is what's making you depressed. In a month I stopped it, got back to weed, and concluded that a spliff a day keeps the doctor away. 6 months before this I was on duloxetine. Shittiest drug ever. I started smoking cigs just to get off of it. It made me hypomanic and contributed to lots of unexpected life changes. It's like getting high and not knowing that you're high or even what you're on.
 
after switching up meds for a little while, IM back on Wellbutrin XL (300mg) and it is working wonders, I suggest it to anyone who does not tolerate SSRI's very well.

Also medium-low doses of oxycodone and/or hydrocodone (20-30mg oral) do wonders for depression. If they weren't as abusable and doctors werent as scared to Rx them, I believe this route would be taken quite regularly for some people
 
Paxil

I don't take anti-depressants anymore but from the MANY that I've been put on, Paxil made me feel the greatest, in fact, it made me feel too good that my family didn't want be to take it anymore because they thought I was manic. I begged to my psychiatrist so she thought the same. It was the first I tried, I was 15 so I had to do what they said and I went off it. I guess they didn't want me feeling good. None made me feel as good.

I'm off them because I'm young (and attractive) and want to be able to have sex with my wife. I also can't run my clubs when I'm on them.
 
aMT

Not an SSRI, or an SNRI, but a tryptamine!

1-5mg is wonderful with mood elevation, and for some time it was sold as a legal anti-depressant in Russia under the name Indopan.

Its made my day absolutely wonderful, all while maintaining and clear and level head without any major negative effects.
 
yeah amt is very good at low doses (1-5mg).

But Thizzerfershizzer have you ever used amt more than two weeks in a row?
I ask that because i wonder if amt has withdrawls
 
I was wondering how tramadol (excluding its opiod activity) compares to the general antidepressants (It is after all an SNRI as well as a mild opioid).

Is it true that tramadol is closely related to effexor & would tramadols SNRIS effects resemble those of effexor.

I found using 150mg/day of tramadol to give me a mood lift & was wondering if any of the traditional SSRIs/SNRIs gave as decent an effect ???
 
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I've always hoped that they would begin marketing Tramadol as an anti-depressant so that psychiatrists would begin prescribing it. I've never taken it on a daily basis but I'm aware that it is an SNRI and would be very effective. The opioid effects would help the symptoms of depression quicker than any other anti-depressant.
 
my vote goes for wellbutrin, and maybe suboxone even though it isn't prescribed for depression. obviously any opiate will do the trick but if you're getting high off them regularly they aren't going to help your depression, at least for most people.
 
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