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Benzos long term.

In stable on them close to 2 years now. Doctor prescribed up to 1.5mg ED I take only 0.5 or even 0.25 and some days not at all. I’m more stable on them I take them at night for sleep and anxiety relief I can go days without them without anxiety rebound but if start not taking them I remember why I got them prescribed in the first place. I say if you can dose it responsibly and at low dose they’re good meds they aren’t for getting High .
 
cnnka said:
In stable on them close to 2 years now. Doctor prescribed up to 1.5mg ED I take only 0.5 or even 0.25 and some days not at all. I’m more stable on them I take them at night for sleep and anxiety relief I can go days without them without anxiety rebound but if start not taking them I remember why I got them prescribed in the first place. I say if you can dose it responsibly and at low dose they’re good meds they aren’t for getting High .
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^Pretty accurate. Either you need them and you are really going to like/need them and it will be damn near night and day --- or you don't and they basically just make you drowsy and fall asleep.

Where I disagree of course is they aren't good for getting high -- flubromazolam, clonazolam, even etizolam to an extent was pretty euphoric at larger doses.

The practical impossibility of overdosing on (MOST) benzo's makes them pretty ideal for experimentation. (Note that is if they are the only drug in your system, add alcohol you die -- pot is okay but anything else)
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
^Pretty accurate. Either you need them and you are really going to like/need them and it will be damn near night and day --- or you don't and they basically just make you drowsy and fall asleep.

Where I disagree of course is they aren't good for getting high -- flubromazolam, clonazolam, even etizolam to an extent was pretty euphoric at larger doses.

The practical impossibility of overdosing on (MOST) benzo's makes them pretty ideal for experimentation. (Note that is if they are the only drug in your system, add alcohol you die -- pot is okay but anything else)
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Yeah I mean before I get them prescribed in my teens years I use to get High on them along with weed they were pretty nice. Nowadays I only use them at low dosage at night for sleeping and doesn’t want to get high on them or get higher dosage for example yesterday 0.25mg Xanax knocked me out and fell asleep didn’t take more. I’ve tried to get more in the past but I just get more sleepy , if I have an opioid I don’t even want them or if I’m too tired I dont even remember to take them an just sleep. I can’t see myself develop a taste for them I just need them medically I wish I’ll stay on this dosage forever but I think it’s normal after 5-10 years that it’s gonna be a slight increase in dosage.
 
Lomg term use of benzos for anxiety and/or insomnia allways ends bad. Social anxiety can be treated without meds, but it takes time to work and can be expensive. But the prize is paid with money, whereas if you pop benzos for years you will pay with pain, panic and shit.
 
Okiv99 said:
Has anybody just stayed on benzodiazepines long term and not had issues? Or do they basically just stop working eventually. My whole drug issues in the first place started because ive never felt normal/totally comfortable in social situations (I think im probably pretty autistic tbh I have multiple symptoms of it and have been asked my people if I am) and im at the point where im thinking about just using benzos forever so I can live the way I want to instead of being handicapped by my discomfort in social situations.

Has anybody done daily dosing long term ? Ive tried using benzos twice a week and it doesnt work because rebound anxiety means you are worst a day or two after using them, so maybe just using them and accepting being dependant is the better option now.
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I'm socially retarded and have had a kpin script for 15 years you don't want to go this route. While I didn't take them even close to every day the amount I did take would cause more anxiety after it wore off. It's been a since January since I took one and I can tell a positive difference.

Also if you find a doctor willing to prescribe them when they retire you very well could be fucked. My old doctor retired and the new one didn't want to continue my script, but she left soon after and the next one reluctantly refilled my script but he wasn't happy about it.
 
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Good thing my guy got his license about the same time I got my script --- I remember literally saying "I will kick this kids ass if he doesn't give me a benzo script" ... and kind of meaning it at the time.

Luckily it did not come to that! When you NEED em you NEED em
 
Okiv99 said:
Has anybody just stayed on benzodiazepines long term and not had issues? Or do they basically just stop working eventually. My whole drug issues in the first place started because ive never felt normal/totally comfortable in social situations (I think im probably pretty autistic tbh I have multiple symptoms of it and have been asked my people if I am) and im at the point where im thinking about just using benzos forever so I can live the way I want to instead of being handicapped by my discomfort in social situations.

Has anybody done daily dosing long term ? Ive tried using benzos twice a week and it doesnt work because rebound anxiety means you are worst a day or two after using them, so maybe just using them and accepting being dependant is the better option now.
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I’ve kicked 3 drugs completely cold-turkey. Heroin, methadone, and Xanax. The worst, by far, was Xanax. I don’t recommend anyone be on it for any length of time. I completely understand your social anxiety, I have that problem too. But you’ll learn ways to work around it/through it and you’ll FEEL better too, not being reliant on benzos.
 
For me they have been nothing but a positive --- except perhaps the whole RC venture, but I consider that a net positive too because I am still here
 
Suppose it would depend on tolerance, a long term user of benzos could prob take 100mg of diazapam and get absolutely smashed on booze every weekend without any issues (apart from getting arrested or displaying some bizzare behaviour)
Someone who was benzo naive would be at real risk of not living through the night.

maybe opiates are more of a dangerous combo than alcohol
Either way it only needs to happen once
 
And benzo withdrawal is hell on earth ,the acute symptoms are obviously the most distressing but then comes the social anxiety that never really leaves
If I had to choose or even had an option I'd rather take benzos responsibly everyday of my life than stop cold turkey.
If i found myself in that situation
 
Aye -- benzos combined with anything merits a trip sitter in all but the most experienced of users....and even than it only takes one.
lost weekend said:
Suppose it would depend on tolerance, a long term user of benzos could prob take 100mg of diazapam and get absolutely smashed on booze every weekend without any issues (apart from getting arrested or displaying some bizzare behaviour)
Someone who was benzo naive would be at real risk of not living through the night.

maybe opiates are more of a dangerous combo than alcohol
Either way it only needs to happen once
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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Aye -- benzos combined with anything merits a trip sitter in all but the most experienced of users....and even than it only takes one.
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Yeh absolutely, you can get complacent
Years ago someone at a party had taken 2mg of clonazepam at end of a session and conked out on sofa and pissed himself .
We had to carry him home
The same day I probably had about 10mg at least plus valium

That's certainly nothing to brag about and I'm not proud to admit it but just highlights how tolerant you can become when abusing these things .
 
Shoot I remember ppl doing "Knifey's of phenazepam" -- perhaps myself included. by about day 3 you are so gone and still believe you are sober somehow -- only benzo to get me like that but it certainly did.

Luckily nothing dramatic happened, I hear I said some edgy shit to ppl --- shit I was kinda thinking anyways but not so smart to go confronting ppl blacked out.

No, nothing to brag about at all. Lack of discipline and respect for the substance -- arrogance of youth
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Shoot I remember ppl doing "Knifey's of phenazepam" -- perhaps myself included. by about day 3 you are so gone and still believe you are sober somehow -- only benzo to get me like that but it certainly did.

Luckily nothing dramatic happened, I hear I said some edgy shit to ppl --- shit I was kinda thinking anyways but not so smart to go confronting ppl blacked out.

No, nothing to brag about at all. Lack of discipline and respect for the substance -- arrogance of youth
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Absolutely right ,I was foolish enough to go out on a pub crawl myself with a kinder egg full of valium I'm my late teens
Needless to say I was thrown out a local club at 10pm where the police were waiting for me
I remember being wrestled to the ground and handcuffed ,but after that the only thing I remember was having to take my clothes off in the cell ,when I took my jeans off a 10mg diazapam tablet rolled onto cell floor and I just picked it up and ate it lol ,all while 2 cops were behind me ,they never noticed 😅

Waking up the next day was torture ,had to wait 8 hours to get processed
The Humiliation and shame is something I've never experienced since

Luckily it was a fine and a warning from the PF
 
lol a younger cousin came up to me a couple weeks afterwards and was like "Dude I can't believe you pullled a fuckin switchblade on my ex just for being a creep"

and I had to think about it --- sure enough I remember this motherfucker wandering out of his lane puttin his hands on my younger cousin -- her lookin at me with the "Help somehow" look

waiting for the drinks to come so dudes hands were full and thoroughly scaring the hell out of him right in the middle of a well lit camera'd up facility --- I imagine it woulda looked real bad on security cam. (Wipes brow)
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
lol a younger cousin came up to me a couple weeks afterwards and was like "Dude I can't believe you pullled a fuckin switchblade on my ex just for being a creep"

and I had to think about it --- sure enough I remember this motherfucker wandering out of his lane puttin his hands on my younger cousin -- her lookin at me with the "Help somehow" look

waiting for the drinks to come so dudes hands were full and thoroughly scaring the hell out of him right in the middle of a well lit camera'd up facility --- I imagine it woulda looked real bad on security cam. (Wipes brow)
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Yeah it's crazy how you can function when your mind blanks out and have no recollection the next day
It's almost like a little switch that just flips in your brain
I get it with spirits especially whisky
 
Haha I tell ppl I got problems with "Gear shifting" so to speak..... 99% of the time I am in gear one and on my best behavior..... that other 1% though....

It is like a little switch -- and your ability to decide when to flip that switch is definitely is blurred with substances.

I coulda caught dude in the parking lot --- gave him a better talking to and been WAY LESS at risk. But my dumbass had to be macho or w/e was going through my dumbass head
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Haha I tell ppl I got problems with "Gear shifting" so to speak..... 99% of the time I am in gear one and on my best behavior..... that other 1% though....

It is like a little switch -- and your ability to decide when to flip that switch is definitely is blurred with substances.

I coulda caught dude in the parking lot --- gave him a better talking to and been WAY LESS at risk. But my dumbass had to be macho or w/e was going through my dumbass head
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Yeah I'm the same though never been in trouble with police since ,mostly because I avoid going out
Still been thrown out of pubs by bouncers for squaring up ,but it's all macho crap I'd never even think of doing when sober

I worked with a really nice quite guy years ago and he was in a pub at night far to drunk ,a fight started and he picked up a glass bottle and smashed it over guys head
He got jailed for it (18 months)
They had to do background checks before deciding on his sentence so he was free and back to work for 4 months or so
He was told to expect a custodial sentence
I don't think I'd be able to function with that hanging over me
 
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