Hey BL! So I hear that you can actually "prevent" yourself from ODing off of amps when you feel you took too much simply by taking a benzo. Just need someone to confirm this for me because if this is true then this might be a life saver, thanks!
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Benzos Benzos for an amp OD?
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brutus
Bluelight Crew
That's not true whatsoever. If you think you are overdosing from amphetamines, seek medical attention as soon as possible.
Thou
Bluelighter
TB hit the nail on the head.
The idea of 'preventing an overdose' is only available if your prevention is responsible use and knowledge, not MORE drugs.
The idea of 'preventing an overdose' is only available if your prevention is responsible use and knowledge, not MORE drugs.
Thou
Bluelighter
Of course so would I.
On the way to the hospital - I'd take a bunch. That's me though.
Do you know how to measure your TPR's AKA vital signs? It's a good indicator of whether or not to seek medical attention.
Most stim-related hospitalization is due to simple crashed out anxiety in my experience, but you can never be too careful. I always check my blood pressure, pulse, respirations, temperature, blood sugar if possible (not diabetic but heh why not), and make sure I drink plenty of water and take a lot of Vitamin C and a bath in magnesium or oral chelated magnesium.
Future reference: comorbid memantine or low dose dxm(30 mg ER) (nmda antagonists) will lower or prevent tolerance in some anecdotal studies, and works great for me. Don't do this without researching it and talking it over with your doctor though.
On the way to the hospital - I'd take a bunch. That's me though.
Do you know how to measure your TPR's AKA vital signs? It's a good indicator of whether or not to seek medical attention.
Most stim-related hospitalization is due to simple crashed out anxiety in my experience, but you can never be too careful. I always check my blood pressure, pulse, respirations, temperature, blood sugar if possible (not diabetic but heh why not), and make sure I drink plenty of water and take a lot of Vitamin C and a bath in magnesium or oral chelated magnesium.
Future reference: comorbid memantine or low dose dxm(30 mg ER) (nmda antagonists) will lower or prevent tolerance in some anecdotal studies, and works great for me. Don't do this without researching it and talking it over with your doctor though.
smokemctoke420
Bluelighter
Taking more drugs to reverse an OD? Sounds absurd but it also make sense
Overdosing on uppers? Take a downer to balance it out haha
Overdosing on uppers? Take a downer to balance it out haha
smokemctoke420
Bluelighter
Idk about stim od but with an opiate od they shoot you with naloxone
Thou
Bluelighter
Most hospitals in the states love IV lorazepam and just hook you up to a machine to moniter your vitals, and administer charcoal.
I've done these things at home and saved 5000 in hospital bills - but that's me. I would never condone anyone else doing this on the record in for the sake of harm reduction.
I've done these things at home and saved 5000 in hospital bills - but that's me. I would never condone anyone else doing this on the record in for the sake of harm reduction.
ybeYah there is no replacement for medical health assistance. Benzos will aid with psychological symptoms and certain brnxos relax your.muscles and prevent seizures which is good
If you think you took a little bit too much amphetamines take a benzo you will be fine....however if you take soo much that you could overdose, take a benzodiazepine and get to the emergency room whether you get a friend to drop.you off, or if you think you will have.s heart attack call an ambulance.
At the hospitals the main treatment is IV lorazepam or diazepam and mmaybe a clonidine and let you ride it out why they keep a close eye on you incase you go.into cardiac arrest, but usually cardiac arrest is uncommon from amphetamines, unless you took a ridiculous amount of amphetamine, like high enough that you wanted to.purposely kill yourself
If you think you took a little bit too much amphetamines take a benzo you will be fine....however if you take soo much that you could overdose, take a benzodiazepine and get to the emergency room whether you get a friend to drop.you off, or if you think you will have.s heart attack call an ambulance.
At the hospitals the main treatment is IV lorazepam or diazepam and mmaybe a clonidine and let you ride it out why they keep a close eye on you incase you go.into cardiac arrest, but usually cardiac arrest is uncommon from amphetamines, unless you took a ridiculous amount of amphetamine, like high enough that you wanted to.purposely kill yourself
onetwo
Bluelighter
Well besides Nalaxone and things like that...
naloxone doesn't do shit, it is completely inactive orally, terrible bioavailability and to top.it off, bupre overpowers naloxone at mu opioid receptors and other ORs. The pharm company that produced all of the suboxone (this pharm business also patented suboxone so no one else could make them)put the naloxone in the pills because naloxone is expensive and bupre is cheap, so to make consumers pay more for suboxone, they added in naloxone which doubled the price of a pure bupre pills. At the time the company knew that suboxone wasn't on the market and they wanted to monopolize buprenorphine treatment. The company claimed that naloxone was added to prevent people from shooting up the suboxone, but like I said naloxone is beat out by bupre at opiate receptors and thus has no effect at causing withdrawal or anything. Many people are scared shitless to shoot naloxone because they think they will go into withdrawal, but I have personally shot myself up with suboxone occasionally and nothing happened. I felt a stronger opiate feeling for 30 mins then it would go away
^ I think you are getting a bit off topic there. Naloxone was merely mentioned since it is used to treat opiate overdoses and the OP was asking about what drug people are shot up with to treat an OD. Nobody was talking about Suboxone and if the naloxone in it is really active or not.
Thou
Bluelighter
Again, TB is right.
Naloxone (narcan) is for heroin overdose. That's only IM or IV (can't remember). That is all.
Helps nothing else.
This was about amphetamine overdose, rare thing but still if you've a weak heart can cause Transient Ischemic (stroke) or Heart Attack.
Like I said - have a loved one check your vitals. It's not hard - blood pressure cuffs are cheap, everything else can be done with a thermometer and a stopwatch.
Or just bite the bullet and go to the hospital.
My advice.
Naloxone (narcan) is for heroin overdose. That's only IM or IV (can't remember). That is all.
Helps nothing else.
This was about amphetamine overdose, rare thing but still if you've a weak heart can cause Transient Ischemic (stroke) or Heart Attack.
Like I said - have a loved one check your vitals. It's not hard - blood pressure cuffs are cheap, everything else can be done with a thermometer and a stopwatch.
Or just bite the bullet and go to the hospital.
My advice.
RobotRipping
Bluelighter
benzos are often used to treat stim overdoses; nevertheless don't just do this yourself, go to a hospital and let them monitor you.
Tony Williams
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theres two stim od's.
Fatal OD if somehow weed/stims are all mixeds fatal oding is possible. Benzos maay calm the heart and you may black out
OD - benzos kill od syptoms like heart and panic. This can be bad as you spring boaad on momre stims
Fatal OD if somehow weed/stims are all mixeds fatal oding is possible. Benzos maay calm the heart and you may black out
OD - benzos kill od syptoms like heart and panic. This can be bad as you spring boaad on momre stims