Help! benzos before shrooms
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Thanks, I'll do that.
This depends on individual metabolisation, tolerance and dose, but if I took like 4 mg in the morning with no tolerance, I definitely will feel it the whole next day. I am commonly able to perform and behave myself, but it would still hinder trip if I took one. I have taken nitrazepam once but can not remember anything of it, so basically clonazepam is THE benzo that makes me rattling for longest time.
Obviously very minor intoxication might null trip only very little while offering positive mindset to start from.
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Good point. I should have put 12-36 hours in my response. I'm sensitive to benzos, I usually have a hangover that lasts a day or two. I'm sensitive to mushrooms as well; by the next day they usually overwhelm any vestiges of whatever was in my system the previous day. 3g would be enough to do it for me. We're all different, have different reactions to different substances, combinations, and how often we use them.
That's why the older traditions have purification rituals of fasting, abstinence, and a place for solo contemplation for a period of time before a spiritual quest. Much more likely to have a clearheaded mental baseline to start from. Rather than partying with your friends and (trying to?) getting laid. Starting with a hangover, an emotionally jumbled psyche, and the residue of neurotransmitters and pheromones clogging up your synapses and receptors and 3rd eye isn't the best way to start a deep exploration of your inner being.
Modern humans don't have time for all the preparation and looking at a cell phone for 10 seconds is enough to send emotions spiraling. A klonopin hangover might have it's uses if it isn't too numbing.
That's why the older traditions have purification rituals of fasting, abstinence, and a place for solo contemplation for a period of time before a spiritual quest. Much more likely to have a clearheaded mental baseline to start from. Rather than partying with your friends and (trying to?) getting laid. Starting with a hangover, an emotionally jumbled psyche, and the residue of neurotransmitters and pheromones clogging up your synapses and receptors and 3rd eye isn't the best way to start a deep exploration of your inner being.
Modern humans don't have time for all the preparation and looking at a cell phone for 10 seconds is enough to send emotions spiraling. A klonopin hangover might have it's uses if it isn't too numbing.
wait until tomorrow any dose of k pins kills my trip
Kinda tangential but I feel like this could be interesting anecdote that could be utilized someway, because I am not categorically against taking numbing agents before/while tripping, even if I generally suggest to not take any at all.
I took once 5-meo-mipt and I had mostly good time but I started to get anxious when I arrived home again. It didn't seem to lead anywhere so I took proper dose of clonazepam. This moved me forward from anxiety and fear to grief, this is good thing and generally should be pursued. Causing intense release of trauma in form of overwhelming shout crying spell. It was really therapeutic but lasted so long that, again, I felt like "this is leading nowhere"
Neighbours definitely thought "holy shit that guy is messed up"
I took once 5-meo-mipt and I had mostly good time but I started to get anxious when I arrived home again. It didn't seem to lead anywhere so I took proper dose of clonazepam. This moved me forward from anxiety and fear to grief, this is good thing and generally should be pursued. Causing intense release of trauma in form of overwhelming shout crying spell. It was really therapeutic but lasted so long that, again, I felt like "this is leading nowhere"
Neighbours definitely thought "holy shit that guy is messed up"
Countless benzodiazepines, GHB and its prodrugs, alcohol, sedatives, NMDA antagonists, etc. are all sedatives that mix well with psychedelics with mixed correctly. I call 2C-B and etizolam the "hippie speedball", but I recently learned that referred to weed and coffee for a long time, so I need a new name for it hahaha. I find that some people who have overly-stimulating responses to certain psychedelics yet they want to use them, for example my fiance @Felidaez and allylescaline, they find a ton of utility in taking a small amount of a benzo alongside a slightly-higher-than-average dose of the psychedelic (say 110%-125%) to keep the accelerated heartrate down but still get all thet allylescaline creativity boost.Kinda tangential but I feel like this could be interesting anecdote that could be utilized someway, because I am not categorically against taking numbing agents before/while tripping, even if I generally suggest to not take any at all.
I took once 5-meo-mipt and I had mostly good time but I started to get anxious when I arrived home again. It didn't seem to lead anywhere so I took proper dose of clonazepam. This moved me forward from anxiety and fear to grief, this is good thing and generally should be pursued. Causing intense release of trauma in form of overwhelming shout crying spell. It was really therapeutic but lasted so long that, again, I felt like "this is leading nowhere"
My one piece of advice is that specifically Carisoprodol (aka Soma) can amplify serotonergics for some reason, and Pregabalin has been rarely reported to as well.
Ah man soma. I haven't had that since high school when I took my dad's.
like 10 years now since. I miss it so much. I'm curious if I can get it prescribed I've had two back surgeries and I've broken my femur so I have a titanium rod in it. My sciatica is fucked up L3 vertebrae. I guess spasm sometimes and they've given me Flexeril but that didn't help and tizanidine but that just puts me to sleep.
Tizanidine only works well sublingually (tastes disgusting) or intranasally (drip is at least tolerable) for me. I love mixing tizanidine with etizolam personally but I have not even the slightest modicum of a clue as to whether or not that's safe, so please do not try that combination. Carisoprodol on the other hand, is easily my favorite depressant I've ever touched. Somehow it didn't produce withdrawls going from 2+ grams a day to nothing cold turkey? Maybe that's just me, I don't get molly comedowns or opioid withdrawls either, so idk, my metabolism's all fucking goofed but back on topic, Soma truly is something special.Ah man soma. I haven't had that since high school when I took my dad's.
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Every time I see this title I think Whiskey Before Breakfast. 
For me, benzos take the trip down to less than half even on a therapeutic dose. But I have no tolerance. And I suspect people who use benzos as a medicine trip just fine.
I am such a purist that for me I like to be 2 weeks out from any benzo or gabapentin in my system before I trip. However these days at the very end of the trip I usually take 300 mgs of gabapentin and either .5 alprazolam or 1 mg etizolam. As soon as it hits I go from sort of wiry to hungry and tired. But for me it does effect the trip and that is probably due to not being use to them in any great way.
I never had an antipsychotic. But from the notes here it may be something to have around. I may give it a shot someday.
A memory. I was at the Waterloo Village Jazz festival in 1998. I took a hit of blotter that for sure was the 250 mics it said it was. 2 hours after taking it I was in a crowd under a tent and could not move much. Got a little panicky. Even Mose Allison could not calm me. Took a genuine Roche 10 mgs blue out of my pocket, washed it down with a ginger ale I was holding, 20 minutes later relaxed and felt like I could breath. But that 10 mgs valium made the 250 mc blotter feel like 100 mcs. It was pretty dramatic. From that point on I sort of only used at the end.
For me, benzos take the trip down to less than half even on a therapeutic dose. But I have no tolerance. And I suspect people who use benzos as a medicine trip just fine.
I am such a purist that for me I like to be 2 weeks out from any benzo or gabapentin in my system before I trip. However these days at the very end of the trip I usually take 300 mgs of gabapentin and either .5 alprazolam or 1 mg etizolam. As soon as it hits I go from sort of wiry to hungry and tired. But for me it does effect the trip and that is probably due to not being use to them in any great way.
I never had an antipsychotic. But from the notes here it may be something to have around. I may give it a shot someday.
A memory. I was at the Waterloo Village Jazz festival in 1998. I took a hit of blotter that for sure was the 250 mics it said it was. 2 hours after taking it I was in a crowd under a tent and could not move much. Got a little panicky. Even Mose Allison could not calm me. Took a genuine Roche 10 mgs blue out of my pocket, washed it down with a ginger ale I was holding, 20 minutes later relaxed and felt like I could breath. But that 10 mgs valium made the 250 mc blotter feel like 100 mcs. It was pretty dramatic. From that point on I sort of only used at the end.