• BASIC DRUG
    DISCUSSION
    Welcome to Bluelight!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Benzo Chart Opioids Chart
    Drug Terms Need Help??
    Drugs 101 Brain & Addiction
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums
  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Benzodiazepines-Alternative medications

Amnesia/fogue state? I was (blissfully) unaware that occured with soma. I also have never had a plethora so it wasn't an issue. Haven't seen a one stateside in over 20 yrs.. Im not connected anymore though so I spose I wouldn't
 
The manufacturers of clonidine really need to start writing me checks for the free advertising I do

Clonidine changed my life. Its 100% a "taper off of it" medication but it doesn't seem to have the incredibly destructive curve of diminishing returns benzos do. But the first time I used clonidine it erased my anxiety to a degree I have never experienced in my life, far better than any benzo.
Yes 100X
 
My ultimate anxiolytic cocktail, only reserved for severe panic attack / death of a family member / end stage cancer anxiety, etc. All pulverize into powder in same glass, dissolved in warm water, little juice & cool water…..30min rapid onset, Clonidine would rapidly reach C-max first and all other compounds very close to peak plasma levels in 1 - 1.5h

6’ / 240lbs male in fasted state

Clonidine 0.1mg
Diazepam 10mg X 2
Alprazolam 0.5mg X 2-3
Pregabalin 300-450mg
Oxy-IR 5mg (for myself would be Methadone 100-125mg)
Ketamine HCL nasal spray - minimal dose

Clonidine 0.1mg tablets are probably the most important anxiolytic compound in one’s inventory. A non-controlled substance any walk-in clinic doc would write a script without batting an eye

Propranolol is also a very highly regarded anxiolytic (non-benzo/off-label) stage actors, public speaking, etc is very common to take this compound before performance …very similar to Clonidine

Even HALF a scored Clonidine 0.1mg tablet has a noticeable subtle effect on me, empty stomach 6’/240lbs male, it’s just so effective, rapid acting, potent, etc . 2-3 tablets would turn a homicidal maniac into a calm & relaxed pussy cat, purring in peace

I was introduced to Clonidine 20+ years ago when withdrawing from long term, hi-dose opioid use for chronic pain, and it was absolutely invaluable. Even preferring it over Valium or Ativan for its rapid-acting potent anxiolytic properties. You just have to slowly taper off it when ceasing due to “rebound hypertension” standing up too quickly can have you seeing stars and feeling light headed & dizzy. You must gradually reduce daily dose over 1-2 weeks after long term (2-3 weeks) of daily use

Taking Clonidine sporadically as needed this wouldn’t be an issue at all however. Very safe anxiolytic medication when compared to long term benzodiazepine usage
 
Last edited:
Hey friends, I was wondering if you guys knew of any extremely potent medications that are just as effective or preferably more effective at treating crippling anxiety. These can be controlled substances, non controlled substances, alternative medicine/supplements, or what have you. I'm currently taking .5 mg of klonopin and it's nowhere near enough and I'm scared to death of running out since I have major anxiety and co-morbid depressive disorder so any help at all would be appreciated! Thank you guys.
You have gabapentin which is fantastic which is kind of a benzo. When I take it I take 1 800 usually, in the past i've taken 2400 or 3200 with no issues. You gotta find the correct dosage for you. It works on gaba obviously.

Another alternative, is Amanita Muscaria. Now amanitas are complicated, you have to find a good source, a head shop is not that. If you want just pure benzo effects, you need either pure muscimal, or you need to heat the mushroom long enough so that it all the ibotenic acid into muscimal. A lot of the horror stories you read are from people just munching them without preparing them correctly. It can take hours of boiling. You can sometimes find pure muscimal for a good price. You have to be very careful, if you take too much you'll be time looping for a few thousand years. Taking correctly though, it's superior to benzos. It works on the gaba receptors just like a benzo, but, it doesn't cause dependence. You can use Amanitas to get off benzos and eliminate or reduce the withdrawals. The effect is long lasting to, think of it like a methadone for benzos, but with no withdrawals itself. Not many people know this.

I would also recommend taking vitamin D daily. People with anxiety tend to stay indoors all the time, even if you go outside it's still likely you have low vitamin D. When it gets low enough, you will feel like death, you cannot have good mental health and have low vitamin D levels. Trust me on that, and it takes a long time to build those levels back up. If you have the extra money go get your levels tested, youll see. It might take a few weeks to see improvement.

If you take it sparingly, benadryl can do the trick nicely, 50-75mg has a surprisingly enjoyable anxiety relieving effect if you can get past the drowsiness. These effects go away after regular use really quickly though.

I wouldn't mess with barbituates, they are worse to come off than benzos.

Chamomile is kind of alright, it has light gaba activity I believe.

Lavender combined with skullcap (there are two types of skullcap I can't remember which it is), I can't remember the specifics, but the linalool
does something significant to the ndma and gaba receptors, and can "activate" certain herbs and other things.

Ketamine is easy to get for depression and anxiety and works extremely well, however long term abuse will cause you problems and it can be extremely mentally addictive, possibly more than anything else. If you have good self control this can work.

But honestly, I would recommend just trying to deal with the anxiety and weaning off, benzos are the absolute worst thing you could be addicted to, and you're trading a normal amount of anxiety now for 1000x worse anxiety later and the duration could be years or permanent. I honestly think benzos are the one substance that should never be prescribed. If you're terrified to run out, you should be terrified of perpetual withdrawals (while youre still taking it). I suffer from the same thing, and it's never fun to hear, but vitamins, diet, and exercise have a drastic effect on anxiety. It could be caused by a food intolerance, it could be something simple, I would suggest trying to find the root cause and dealing with it directly. Benzos are just not sustainable, and once you're hooked you're kind of fucked for life potentially unless you're willing to go through hell for a VERY long time, it could take 5 years, sometimes more. I'm not trying to scare you, I just want you to know what you're really getting into. If people knew they would never take them. Please research withdrawals on youtube and decide for yourself if it's worth it. You're at the most important crossroad of your life, stay safe.
 
i traded my benzo habit for soma, i feel much better about it. Tolerance is an issue, but i must be lucky, i can take just 2 pills (350mg each) and most days feel the full effects. Skipping days doesn't seem to have barely any wd's atleast compared to benzos. Benzos are a fucking bitch to quit, tapering or cold turkey. I'm currently 20 days free & clear of Klonopin daily use (4mg) and just now feeling the rebound anxiety drop thankfully. But Soma has been a life saver, reaching for it when a craving or panic attack occurs. I don't have re dosing issues with Soma, mostly ;) And I absolutely LOVE the way it metabolizes into "milltown". I have no idea how my liver and body are liking this, but it's getting me through the benzo withdrawal period, and i'll easily refrain from Soma eventually. Maybe. Ha.

Pro Tip: Take Soma on an empty stomach and lay on your right side for 20 minutes if you can. Weed really works well with it, keeps the body high going a bit longer. Also, if your not taking advil or tylenol - take your Soma with some asprin, it makes it much more potent.

It's amazing how big of a bang you get for your buck, all hail might SOMA
 
Top