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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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FlippingTop said:
Could someone shed some light on thenodiazepam degrading in solution?

I can get etizolam powder nice and cheaply and quite enjoy the instant hit 2ml of vodka with 1mg etizolam dissolved it in gives you when held under the tongue. The last 2 times I have Flown through my stash in a matter of days/a week and have not noticed any loss of potency.

Does storing pure powder dissolved in vodka lead to any degrading of the etizolam at all? If so what kind of time span?

Thanks :)
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I can't answer your question unfortunately, but IIRC the solvent of choice for dissolving benzos into solution is propylene glycol. Perhaps you would have better results using that? Someone may be able to confirm?
 
Maxalfie I don't like to get all soft, but very much appreciated! DOPPELGANGA didn't go to prison!!!!!

MY solicitor made a good argument about my health problemos & i got one of those fucking ankle tag things... a "rolex" as probation like to call it! It's yet to bee fitted.

Back to benzos. The last 48 hours ive eaten twelve 5mg nitrazepam! Man i got into some conversations i coulnt remember & didnt believe.!

Man that bromazepam were ok but you dont get any effect (recreational, hypnotic etc) all except anxyolisis. Kept a couple just in case,

My lesson has been learned - nitrazepam should only be taken when you are actually already in bed Fantastic hypnotic, better than zolpidem, zopiclone, or temazepam!

But Mogadon (i got the proper brand name ones from canada!) if taken during the day will fuck your tits off. I mean i was falling over every other hour, my friends thought i was on heroin & iwas like ' iieerm nut on skaag jus some sleepers. I actually fell asleep eating dinner!

To sum it up, best hypnotic ever just be sure, 100%, that you take in you are already in bed! I dont mean when you're getting ready for bed i mean under your duvet & reading a book.

Funny thing though, you can take 20mg & be a mess but not really fell that tired, but if you shut your eyes for more than 5 secondes you're out for the count, or even before the count!

Again thanks to those of you who posted kind words fot me. Man that was a stressfull week being 80 percent sure you'll be straight to prison. Also (this is likely due to benzo amnesia) every morning since thursday ( wednesday being the day i had to go to court) I've been waking up at like 10am thinking ooooohh fuck i'm going to prison today!.

However, this sounds me sound like a hippey i've been " stopping to smell the roses" , not literally, but appreciaing my freedom , being able to buy ice cream, hug my sis, smokke a liyyle herb etc : )

p.s I can still feel effects from the Mogadon. I highly recommend this benzo Mogadon ( nitrazepam ) as a totally fantastic hypnotic, but not as recreational, benzo, unllike valium or lorazepam.
 
I spent the best part of 3k in the last month on drugs.
Only got 8 quid to my name.

Least the docs given me a sick note.
EDIT: And I have some HK blues!
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Is the cocaine your doing in all this money on quality stuff I assume Cornish?

The msj's people were asking about earlier must be pretty decent if they are the same ones I have currently. Very cheap in not massive bulk.. But I did 4 yesterday after the gym and haircut and ended uo having to go to sleep.

Got 100 free from a mate and a bit of nice moroccan so will probably be benzo's and spliffs again tonight :)
 
doppelganga, congratulations on your freedom mate.. i'm very aware of the stress and commotion involved with the thought that you may soon be incarcerated! feels like a 1000lb gorilla has been removed from perching on your shoulders , reflect on this feeling and make sure not to put yourself in this position again, next time you won't be as lucky.

also, well done to atm for getting to where he is today... i've had to do a little benzo taper before and found it very difficult, can't imagine what its been like for you but congratulations for doing what you set out to achieve
 
rockstar 69 said:
Is the cocaine your doing in all this money on quality stuff I assume Cornish?

The msj's people were asking about earlier must be pretty decent if they are the same ones I have currently. Very cheap in not massive bulk.. But I did 4 yesterday after the gym and haircut and ended uo having to go to sleep.

Got 100 free from a mate and a bit of nice moroccan so will probably be benzo's and spliffs again tonight :)
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Yeah tis high end hcl.
100% water soluble.

Obv cut to a degree, but deffo not much. I couldn't take a 190mg hit unless I wanted to experience near death/OD.
 
I've seen stuff coming from holland at the moment that's tested at 89%. Stuff round here at £120 a gram is definately 80-90 I'd guess.

Just eaten 3 of these msj's with a Magners :), quite enjoying the chill of the blues, it's been a while. Nice bit of moroccan to puff on too. Weekend off the booze is going really well to be honest.
 
Has to be said benzo's make me want to have a few drinks and smoke. Such a nice mellow hit from a few vallies, couple spliffs and a few magners. Bliss. Think I prefer valium to opiates because of this.
 
I'm quite liking Nitrazepam . Fantastic hypnotic, bet respect this drug 'cos if you want to get a buzz in the daytime you'll be headbutting the table & falling off your chair.

That said i reckon its better than ambien zopiclone or temazepam for sleep.
 
from today's Guardian:
Addiction experts are warning that a ballooning illicit trade in a tranquilliser popularly known as "mother's little helper" is now a significant factor behind many drug-related deaths. They say diazepam, once prescribed to anxious housewives in the 1970s and better known by its former brand name of Valium, is being used recreationally by a younger generation unaware of its potentially lethal side-effects.

Police suspect that a plethora of amateur laboratories are manufacturing the controlled class C drug in response to growing demand from users who often combine it with other substances. The drug and alcohol treatment charity Addaction fears that the scale of the problem is becoming a major problem for health services and has called for doctors and pharmacists to be better informed about the dangers of the drug.

Addaction said people once misused diazepam that had been diverted from prescriptions or stolen from pharmacies, but in the last five years there had been an increase in the amount of diazepam bought from online pharmacies outside the EU, mainly in India or Pakistan. With diazepam tablets selling for as little as 50p, the drug – a form of benzodiazepine known by users as "benzos" – offers a cheap alternative to most other drugs. In addition, a counterfeit trade appears to be emanating from Scotland, where police have unearthed a number of amateur laboratories creating illegal versions of the drug. "It's a relatively new phenomenon, but we suspect that there are ongoing diazepam production operations going on up and down the country," said Kenny Simpson of the Scottish Drug Enforcement Agency.

The rise in popularity of diazepam may be part of a wider trend in drug abuse, according to experts. Some drug counsellors suspect that the falling numbers of heroin users is partly down to addicts switching to diazepam, which is prescribed to alleviate stress and tension. Many abusers like to mix diazepam with alcohol, with users reporting online that it helps "sedate" them for whole days.

Official figures show that diazepam misuse in Scotland last year came second only to heroin. But the true scale of the problem remains opaque as the number of benzodiazepine seizures are not recorded separately from those of other class C drugs. "The drug trend picture shows an increase in the availability of illicit diazepam, coupled with low prices and the prevalence of 'poly' drug use, creating potential for an increase in fatal overdoses," Kenny Simpson of the Scottish Drug Enforcement Agency warned.

The counterfeit trade appears to be sophisticated: Diazepam tablets being sold illicitly often bear a variety of genuine manufacturers' logos. But experts said it was difficult to gauge whether the drugs were genuine or fake.

"We are hearing numerous reports of tablets with these names stamped across them," said Gareth Balmer from Addaction's service in Dundee. "It could well be the case that some, or even all, are counterfeits and contain varying doses of diazepam. Counterfeiting causes a range of problems, not least because the user does not know what drug it is they are taking, how strong it is and how their body will react to it."

Experts have detected what they say is an alarming rise in cases of "super-dosing", where people take vast quantities of diazepam that far exceed a "prescribed" dose and can result in violent, sometimes fatal, seizures. Addaction reports that one man in his 30s approached them for help saying he had ingested 500mg of the drug, as much as 100 times a normal dose.

Balmer warned: that there could be major consequences for drug treatment if the problem went unchecked. "Diazepam is a very difficult drug to treat. It is behind many drug-related deaths. I believe it's been involved in every single death we've seen in 2012."
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