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Benzo Discussion Vol. 2

How many days after stopping diazepam are seizures/major withdrawal symptoms no longer a risk? I only ask because I tend to take at least a weeks break every so often. I occasionally get mild anxiety after 3 or 4 days. Which only lasts a few days, and then I feel fine. But I've been doing this for around 6 months now (pretty moderate occasional use), and wondered what would happen if I stopped completely.
 
If a day without a benzo you havnt had a seizure its very unlikely you will have one. For longest acting benzos 2 days to be on the safe side.
At your use i'd say theres pretty much no risk of a seizure :)

Benzo binge last 3 days! yammin 2mg clonaz and subbys like candy :D
 
ColourfulKronos said:
If a day without a benzo you havnt had a seizure its very unlikely you will have one. For longest acting benzos 2 days to be on the safe side.
At your use i'd say theres pretty much no risk of a seizure :)
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Oh that's a relief. I keep deciding to take these 'safety breaks', and then giving them up after a week-10 days. And then I read things like diaz stays in the system for 30days+, which kinda scares me. So after the mild anxiety of days 3/4 has passed, I shouldn't expect any further negative symptoms? (other than tolerance).
 
I've used them in a simlar fashion and not really experienced many problems aside from the anxiety you mention and a couple of days' insomnia.

The ideal thing to do is take a break that's about equivalent to the length of time you've been using them, but your ten-day breaks should be enough to ensure you don't develop a habit.
 
Is temazepam worth a dabble?
The general consensus seems to be that its one of the nicest benzos but I've only tried etiz and it didn't really tickle my pickle all that much.
Was okay for hangovers/comedowns mind.
 
Didnt find temaz much different from all the other benzos, then again i have restorils which i dont really trust. Yeah they'd be good to kick back and relax on though for sure, would go nice with a beer or 2.
Effects would be (slightly) different from etiz if thats the only one you've tried though, more sedating
 
I love temazepam.

Restorils are definitely underdosed but they'll do at a push. There's that 'Hypnotil' brand on the black market right now which some people say are better. There are also some green eggs floating about too. You might even be lucky enough to snag some UK scripted ones if you look around.

I find temaz to be as close to an opioid as its possible for a benzo to be, if you get what I mean. Definitely more sedating than etizolam but it can give you a burst of energy too. Paradoxical shit, but enjoyable nonetheless.

It has a tendency to give me bizarre dreams and sleep paralysis though. Don't know if that's very common but I'm sure I've heard it mentioned before.
 
I knew you'd say that. :)

It's not opiate-like really, it's benzo-like. But there's the euphoria and well-being that you might get from a weaker opiate. You're gonna disagree with that though, aren't you?
 
i'm quite impressed by etizolam so far, somewhere between alpraz and temaz i reckon but nicer than alpraz of which i am not a fan.
 
SamhainGrim said:
I knew you'd say that. :)

It's not opiate-like really, it's benzo-like. But there's the euphoria and well-being that you might get from a weaker opiate. You're gonna disagree with that though, aren't you?
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Come on it wouldn't be right if i was to agree with u in this thread:) I agree to an extent but only if its Liquid i fukin love that stuff , i dunno why its different to the pills but it is .
I 'm more inclined to go with Lormetazepam personally if i was looking for a really proper buzz but i'm weird like that.
Am yet to try Etizolam , will have to give it a go , would be rude not to.
Not a fan of Alpraz much either.
Lorazepam no longer does anything to me at all even at 20mg plus .
Still like Moggys . Lormetazepam , Proper Temazepam and of course Diazepam.
 
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I've been taking Diazepam at 15-25mg a day for about 5 months now; been on a taper for about 7 weeks from the doctor. I'm down to the 2 mg tabs after my last appointment tho. 7 per day for one week then 6 per day the next week. However i'm thinkin of dropping it down to like 8 or 10 mg, so 4 or 5 pills a day then down to 5 mg a day for a couple days then just 2 mg & going cold turkey to build up a little extra of a supply instead of just going from script to script & also see if i can manage a week or more without them.

Any thoughts on this? I might ask the doc for a few nicotine patches too as i've ad so much stress these past few months i've started smoking fags again for the first time since i was 19 (4 years) & i've noticed when i have a smoke, apart from the first one of the day, it occasionally bring on a mild anxiety attack & now i'm reading that tobbaco decreases the effects of benzos for fuck sake! A very good reason for me to quit smoking again!
 
doppelganga196 said:
I've been taking Diazepam at 15-25mg a day for about 5 months now; been on a taper for about 7 weeks from the doctor. I'm down to the 2 mg tabs after my last appointment tho. 7 per day for one week then 6 per day the next week. However i'm thinkin of dropping it down to like 8 or 10 mg, so 4 or 5 pills a day then down to 5 mg a day for a couple days then just 2 mg & going cold turkey to build up a little extra of a supply instead of just going from script to script & also see if i can manage a week or more without them.

Any thoughts on this? I might ask the doc for a few nicotine patches too as i've ad so much stress these past few months i've started smoking fags again for the first time since i was 19 (4 years) & i've noticed when i have a smoke, apart from the first one of the day, it occasionally bring on a mild anxiety attack & now i'm reading that tobbaco decreases the effects of benzos for fuck sake! A very good reason for me to quit smoking again!
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Do it like your doc suggested mate . It sounds like a ideal taper. If u start trying to mange it yourself n storing them up it'll jus be harder trust me on this one.
 
I've recently tried xanax, and I cant be happier. It's a fantastic benzo for me. Short lasting, gets me to sleep, gives me a lovely deep sleep, and I don't wake up afterwords feeling groggy, like I do with Diaz. Pretty perfect in every sense! :)

Urb
 
I have a question regarding benzos...

I have only tried 3; phenazepam, etizolam and zolpidem (Z-drug I know, but still similar).
The issue is that it seems that I need to take much larger doses than other people, according to reports and such.

With etizolam, for example, taking 5 or 6 on an empty stomach will do barely anything to me, not even help me sleep most of the time. I once had a good experience with 5mg sublingual Etizolam, but it still left me feeling awake and coordinated, hell, I could juggle perfectly. 200 pills will barely last me 3 weeks, and doesn't noticeably reduce my anxiety. I of course started with small doses, such as half a pill as some people said that gave them a good time, but I've been increasing the doses slowly just to help me feel something.

Now, with phenazepam, I was going through 20mg solutions in about 3 days. Anything less than 4mg would do nothing for me. (And yes, I realize phenaz has a very long come up period, and I did wait). Trip reports indicate 1mg should be more than enough, yet here I am having to take 6mg just so that I can get into a tired mood. I did once have a great time mixing phenaz with MXE, incredibly trippy and relaxing.

All the sources are trustworthy, but I did try from others just to be sure.

Another issue is zolpidem, I manage to get one pill every few weeks, however the last few times, on an empty stomach, it too has done nothing for me, and this is directly from a pharmacy. It's a shame, since I love this chemical, despite only using it about 20 times in my life, and now it may as well be a sugar pill.

I don't understand why I have to take such large doses. I'm only slightly overweight, so that shouldn't be an issue.
I realize a lot of people say the effects of benzos are subtle and may be unnoticeable except to people you interact with, but I assure you that at what should be absurdly high doses, I'm able to function just as well as I do when sober. It may sound odd, but juggling has always been my test to see how chemicals effect my motor skills, and benzos don't seem to effect it much at all unless I go to doses which I'd imagine somebody with a massive tolerance would take. A single pint of cider would effect me more than 4 etizolam tablets.

I am usually on a nootropic regime (Mainly just oxiracetam), but I always stop it when taking drugs, so that shouldn't be an issue.

If I were to compare phenazepam, etizolam, zoplidem and phenibut, I'd say that Phenibut was the most effective for sleep and anxiety. Unfortunately I recklessly abused it and could no longer get anything out of it. Phenibut remains to this day one of the most potent chemicals I've ever tried. At higher doses you could lie in bed and be literally paralyzed within seconds before you fall asleep, wake up the next day and be unable to walk straight, yet feel extremely confident. This is kind of what I was hoping for from the likes of benzos. Maybe my expectations were too high, maybe I try too hard to feel something which can't be mistaken as a placebo.

I have had some decent experiences, but they seem to be 1/20. I don't find taking etizolam sublingually helps much. Instead I just crush it with my teeth and swallow. Has anybody tried plugging it?

(On the topic of Phenibut, I actually found Phenibut to be one of the most psychedelic chemicals I've ever tried. Slightly from the sleep paralysis, but it could get very trippy, lucid dreaming guaranteed. I went through 3 100mg tubs rather fast, so I had a slightly unpleasant withdrawal.)

Anyways, I've typed a little too much. I've been awake since yesterday morning and had a stimulant binge which is long over. Once the stimulation wore off I took 5 etizolam, waited 3 hours, took another five, waited longer, lying in bed. Then took another 2 just to help. That means that 12 etizolam tablets aren't powerful enough for me to even warrant a single yawn, despite the stimulation being long dead. It might be the camfetamine leaving a lingering stimulation, but from everything I've read about etizolam, 12mg should be able to knock anyone out - yet here I am, posting this with 12mg etizolam in my system, feeling fully sober and wide awake. It leaves me feeling frustrated when I read about people having massive stimulant binges and taking 3 or so etizolams and being able to fall straight to sleep. I'm desperate to just find one redeeming quality of Etizolam. Even a reduction in anxiety would make me praise it.

I realize this started as a question and turned into a rant. Here's my question, as a benzo newbie:
Is there any plausible reason that I have to take such large doses, yet still can't relate to a single trip report from any of the above benzos?
(Tolerance is impossible unless Phenibut is cross tolerant with benzos)


Sorry for the long winded post. And I really am a newbie to all of this, so be easy on me.
 
Maybe you might wanna try some of the more standard benzos like diazepam it would give you a better idea of what 2 expect.
Phenazepam could be cut and is a lottery n i don't no alot about Etizolam and as u said the other isn't a benzo.
 
brimz said:
Maybe you might wanna try some of the more standard benzos like diazepam it would give you a better idea of what 2 expect.
Phenazepam could be cut and is a lottery n i don't no alot about Etizolam and as u said the other isn't a benzo.
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I'd love to try them, but getting a script for one of those things is insanely difficult. I have severe social anxiety and all the doctors and psychiatrists swear that SSRI is the only way forward. I feel like they're going to try every anti-depressant available before even considering anything else, and I'm not up for that.
I've already tried every major anti-depressant and hated every one.
 
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^ that's the same problem I have with my doctor, I've never outright asked him for a benzo script because he'd defininatly say that was drug seeking behaviour, but I really feel like I need them! I have bought them on the street and they have done wonders for my anxiety.

They just keep changing my anti deps, I've tried about six now and they just don't work for me!

At least they have prescribed me a short term of zopiclone so at least I can get a little sleep at night!
 
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