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Benzo Discussion v4

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Max: I'd definitely NOT swap from diaz, because you'll quickly find yourself dosing several times a day. Can't you go to your doctor? I was put on a taper, when I needed it.

Mugz: Why is your doctor not bothered about you dying? I know you've had a few tapers now, but does he need proof of your suffering, before he prescribes?
 
it's a different doctor treacle, i'm gonna arrange another appointment tomorrow and say the recovery centre recommended the taper, he could even contact the dr there to confirm and hope he gives me the diaz taper so I can throw away my phenazepam which I have barely any left of now anyway.
 
Diazepam - March 2013

Note to admins/mods - This is not about sourcing/pill id's/prices.

Hi peeps, I'm trying to figure out the current Diazepam situation, i.e. which ones aren't worth the chalk that they're pressed with and which ones pack a mighty, or a least a reliable punch.

I've had them from several different places before and as they say, it's pretty much a lottery when it comes to choosing them. After a little while I usually find someone reliable, until either one of us goes AWOL lol :)

I've been out of the loop for a while now and I can't afford to spend XX on something that might be blue chalk, I'm unsure what to go for :?

My options so far, all from different places are -

  • MSJs - Meant to be well pressed, originally in sealed bottles straight from Sri Lanka etc, although I know there are lots of fake out there.
  • 'Activas' blues - Apparently UK pharmacy pills but something doesn't smell quite right, I've heard that these are being faked by the truck load.
  • C10 blues (not orange) - Interesting, never heard of them nor can I find anything about them in blue - only the orange ones...
  • Plain blues w/ break line - Again, could be promising?
  • 'Ardin' yellows - These sound good to me. Why would someone bother faking yellows which take up twice as much space and sell for half the price when they can fake blues for the same price and get more for them? Also I trust Ardin, had good experiences in the past with them.

I know that all of these come in both genuine and fake forms and like most street meds they can vary heavily batch to batch. I am not after pill IDs/sources/prices or anything like that.

It would be really handy to know what people are getting right now and what they think of them =D

Peace %)
 
I'm so glad I don't have to buy benzos illicitly, any more. I used to get 100 of the scored blues, with 10mg on them, for like £30. I swear to god (who doesn't exist) that they were perfectly made and dosed. Got those for years, then did myself a favour and got myself a script. I believe my doctor wants to reduce my diaz, after some other stuff, but there's no way that's going to happen.

Sorry, the yellows sound like your best bet.
 
Personally, I like the Activas blues. Had some recently which were decent and seemed legit.

Dodgy plain blue/scored pills going about atm. I'd avoid. But really, who the fuck knows what's what?.
 
maxalfie said:
I know that Etizolam isn't strictly a benzo but does anybody know that if I was to quit using black market diazepam & used Etizolam instead would doing that prevent benzo withdrawal?
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I found etizolam semi-helpful in tapering off diazepam, but only as an every other day (at most) regimen over the courses of a week or two. I've never suffered benzo WD, though, as tapering my dose slowly works well for me. I've been using diazepam pretty much daily for nearly 5 years & by varying the dose (generally 5/10/15mg) I take each night as well as taking breaks from it completely every few months, I've been able to keep my tolerance down & avoid WD. If you have nothing else, the etizolam should prevent WD & the longevity of diazepam itself will help even if you're no longer taking it, or barely any. How much diazepam have you been taking & for how long?
 
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Personally, I like the Activas blues. Had some recently which were decent and seemed legit.

Dodgy plain blue/scored pills going about atm. I'd avoid. But really, who the fuck knows what's what?.
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The plain blue scored onescare the ones in
Gettin just now. I doubt thereis 10ml in each but there defo valium and not some chemical concocction cooked up in some serbians bath.
 
^Well, the ones I had seemed more like 5mg or even less. Very weak and possibly adulterated as they gave me palpitations. Could've just been my general anxiety creeping through the low dose of course, but my gut told me not to bother taking the rest. They're kinda speckled and look like white pills which have been dipped in a pale blue dye. In any case, I hope you don't get these. :\
 
Got hold of some MSJ yellows today.

It seems the MSJ counterfeiters haven't moved on to the yellows yet; these look the real deal and do the job better than a lot of illicit '10mg' vals out there.

Though obviously it's the black market and there could be innumerable batches out there. Same lottery as ever. Seems I've come out on top this time. Hallelujah.

Using them responsibly will be a different matter entirely, but without as much booze in my life it'll be that little bit easier. My tolerance is pretty low too after a couple of months' abstinence. Here's hoping...
 
maxalfie said:
I know that Etizolam isn't strictly a benzo but does anybody know that if I was to quit using black market diazepam & used Etizolam instead would doing that prevent benzo withdrawal?
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Yes from self experience they do cross over. I switched to valium and the w/ds were gone. Just make sure you don't taper too fast and follow the Ashton manual.
 
ativan i need ativan now or even a rivitrol clonazepam no luck my mate is 5 miles away and asleep who gives me them.
 
so 750ug of acid then so ive had about 3000ug in the last 10-12 days if they are 50ug

and btw dan fuckin hates me these days why mention him lol especially now as im coming down off acid watching the exorcist
i always end up crying when the acid is wearing off :-*
not even joking...
boo fucking hoo...cry me a river
i just hope i dont start bleeding...i bled a great deal its a problem im working on father ALL THIS BLEEDING (evil old lady laughing like a maniac)
exorcist 3
im not touching that one on acid yet...
 
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Crying on acid is cathartic, Ed. Just consider it tears of coke seeping from and salving your very soul <3

In all seriousness, you really are wasting that blotter dosing the way you are. Never redose unless you do it within 1h max. After that none is taken up by receptors so you may as well piss it up the wall or feed it to passing goats. Take the total dose in one to get the full effect. If they're the current Avatars they are apparently <50ug apiece so - frankly - piss weak. Taking several at once should be essential... but not on subsequent days. Leave three days absolute minumum betwixt doses or you are - once again - pissing it up the wall and/or feeding passing goats. The goats don't give much of a shit so save 'em for yerself 72h or more hence ;)

If ya start crying blood than declare yerself a miracle - I hear that shit still flies round your neck of the woods :D;)<3
 
fucks sake the exorcist is upsetting me its heavy duty shit...
should turn it off its a dreadfull film to watch when ur mind is fragile
duh
 
no i was on my knees praying crying a min ago.. thinking of death and trying to pospone it :-(
haha which seems hilarious to me now not 2 mins ago tho.
i have 14 long paralell scars on my right forearm i did in the last 2 months nomore of that for me
it leaves me shaken and nervey as hell im never doing that again to myself load of bollox that game
 
Exorcist is only heavy duty if you actually believe the drivel it speaks of.

"The power of Christ compels you..."

... To understand the difference betwixt fact and fantasy ;)<3

As for self-harm scars, I have no idea how they are related (well, kinda tangentially, I s'pose) but know how such things can occur (secularly if not religiously). Am covered from head to foot in 'em. Meh. Think I've finally grown out of that stage. And, on-topic, I suspect knocking the benzos on the head helped. Especially in conjuntion with booze. They don't call 'em "downers" for nothing :\

Why think of death when life is so much less... final? You never know what there may be to come with life. WIth death the one thing you can be sure of is you will know no more :|

If ya need to talk about such things do please make use of the Mental Health thread - is what it's there for. You are far from alone <3
 
haha sorry to be a buzzkill at 7am im now laughing out loud for real
i think i have pulled thru
im a nutter dont mind me lol
rapid mood changes are what i like about acid... joy..crying then hysterical laughing the next min
fuck the darkside thread
im an irish citizen not a whingebag
next patient please doctor ;-)
 
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