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Being violent while drunk - what does it mean?

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Last night I punched a number of my friends in the face. I kicked one of them in the head, threw a pair of scissors at him (repeatedly), verbally abused him and generally acted like a lunatic. They didn't hit me back at all.

I often antagonize random people when I'm extremely drunk and get the shit beaten out of me. But this time nobody retaliated. They were all cool today. Nobody is holding any grudges against me. My friend said that once a mate of his threw a chair at him for absolutely no reason when he was drunk and "not to worry about it".

But I can't help think there's something wrong with me. Just because I'm not the only one who becomes borderline psychotic when I drink doesn't mean it's not something to worry about. Most people don't do it. I keep thinking that being violent when your drunk means that the violence is already "there", waiting to be released.

The violence cannot be inherent to alcohol, can it? Because if it was wouldn't everyone get violent at a certain level of intoxication?

I used to always consider myself a pacifist but now I'm considering the notion that I'm just a repressed psychopath.

Obviously I shouldn't drink, but whether or not I drink is not the question I'm asking. I don't understand why I get violent and angry when I'm drunk.
 
In my humble opinion, it definitely means you shouldn't drink. Aside from that I don't know.

I've always had a really negative reaction to alcohol, so I can relate. I either get really depressed and cry uncontrollably OR get consumed with anger and pick a fight with my s/o. I know I'm allergic/sensitive to brewer's yeast, so maybe the same could be true for you? When I drink, my brain feels like it almost swells (same feeling as seasonal allergies, which make me very moody as well) right before things go bad. I drank pretty heavy for a while in college, but it became not worth it really fast. I haven't had a sip of ANY alcohol in over 2 years and couldn't be happier.

Alcohol has a tendency to bring out violence in some people (not all) and is involved in at least half all domestic violence, rape and other violent crime cases in this country. (forget the source but read it online somewhere). So you're not alone.
 
I wouldn't over analyze this. Some people can handle alcohol some can't. We just have different reactions to alcohol because it is based on how our body runs ect. Also even DNA. I would stay away from drinking or at least not get wasted so you don't know what the hell you're doing.

We have angry drunks, emotional drunks, funny drunks and the list goes on. Everyone just needs to ask themselves where do I stand?
 
I have the opposite problem. I can handle copious amounts of liquor extremely well, and aside from getting a bit sloppy, I'm generally friendly and fun.

I do have friends who have issues holding their liquor and generally I just avoid them. They always get me involved in fights at the bar, whereas I'd rather just piss around and have a good time.
 
Cyc said:
I have the opposite problem. I can handle copious amounts of liquor extremely well, and aside from getting a bit sloppy, I'm generally friendly and fun.

I do have friends who have issues holding their liquor and generally I just avoid them. They always get me involved in fights at the bar, whereas I'd rather just piss around and have a good time.
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Yeah I'm also super friendly, entertaining and funny. I just tend to always go I'm not drunk to people when I'm cocked out of my mind.
 
Different people react differently to alcohol. For starters, everyone's chemistry is different.

Aside from this, the fact that you become violent when drinking means you absolutely need to stop before you seriously hurt or even kill someone. It doesn't sound like you even have fun while drinking if you're busy worrying about how you'll react, so why continue with it? I understand it's difficult to avoid because it's ingrained into society but you really don't have to drink in excess to the point where you're belligerently drunk and dangerous just because alcohol is around.

If you don't want to quit, start restricting yourself so you don't get drunk. I would personally avoid the stuff at all costs if the effects you describe are commonplace.

Good luck.
 
alcohol is strange stuff.
something you pay for, that you drink which dehydrates you, impairs your judgment and ability to make decisions, cause a type of "delirious" euphoria, causes a sense of grandeur or extreme well being and carelessness, is deathly addictive, and impairs your ability to move or speak.

besides your personal reasons, these few are enough for me as-well... iy-yi.
 
For myself, I am an angry, obnoxious drunk. And whenever im w/d from opiates I also lash out and curse and throw things and just am not pleasant to be around. I feel that I have repressed alot of my anger from taking opiates to cope with any discomfort for the last 8, so i notice that with w/d i feel this incredible rage, really pent up, then it leads to debilitating sadness with crying and sobbing, then a stoic depression. I trudge along because its the only way i know how to survive. Anyway, I have no solution except that I have let it ride throughout the past couple years and its gotten better. I feel like I had to get my anger out. When I was healthy I'd ride my bike and listen to rap music.

Anyway in an attempt to assist the OP, do u have an addiction? If so, when u stop, do u see how and if ur mood changes? Or is alcohol ur DOC? How long as this been happening? Have you seen it escalate or decrease for any reason?
(Sorry for the question bomb, but they are just some things to ponder)
 
^good post.

it made me think to ask if you black-out at all, and if so do the black-outs occur after drinking less then previously?
or the same with these violent states, if you think back,,, do they happen quicker and escalate faster at all over time?

like before it may of taken 10-12+, but now 5-8 and its on...?
 
I'm mostly a happy lush in but I have had profound ugliness come out of a bottle.

I speculate that some mean ugly states are do to hypoglycemia. Liver is busy processing alcohol and doesn't always keep up on its part in maintaining blood sugar homeostasis. Hypoglycemia can be rage.

The violence cannot be inherent to alcohol, can it? Because if it was wouldn't everyone get violent at a certain level of intoxication?
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Yes it can. I've known people who get violent near everytime they drink. Some people eat strawberries and inevitably get hives. There are people who invariably get mean and violent whenever they drink.

I've seen to many experiments confirming it to have any doubt. I'm sure the psychological and physiological factors are going to vary. I do know that alcohol has been the one factor in a pattern of explosive violence that was removable and brought control and safety for some people.

Can not speak about individuals I have not met but I honestly believe that some people at this time can avoid regrettable incidents of violence only by avoiding alcohol. Honest.
 
its worth adding on the note of hypoglycemia...
ive tested myself before as a hypoglycemic, after eating waiting near an hour i checked in the low 80's i believe, then i had 3 12oz beers, and after a few minutes my glucose was in the low 50's.

this can bring some real primordial rage out. fight or flight. an example of the possible mind state is, that a humans glucose shouldnt be in the low 50's-40's unless they havent eaten in around,,, 3 days.

its easy enough to have your glucose tested, and would be maybe the only definitive answer.
but at any rate, it sounds like you are not insane or psychotic, just need to stop drinking - for many reasons.
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Ok well I have a friend who has been sober for over a year now and me and my brother and him used to drink together all the time. We would always go hang somewhere secluded and drink. He was always wild when he would drink, like smashing shit and howling like a wolf at the moon, hahahha that was his signature. He would do shit like smash on peoples doors yelling like a angry drunk husband "Bitch I'm fucking home, open the door you fucking slut!" This was in the stage when I thought it was all in good fun.

He then started having breakdowns where he would uncontrollably rage punching shit, one time he completely destroyed a public bathroom one piece at a time then started sobbing on the floor. I can just think what that guy was thinking when he walked in when I was trying to calm him down.

Anyway hes been seeing a psychiatrist now and they think he has borderline personality disorder and maybe bipolar. When he was sober He had anger at all the problems in his life but when drinking I think it brought out his anger to the extreme end of bipolar and it was completely uncontrollable.

So what im trying to say is yes you might have a problem mentally because that is not healthy behavior even if your friends think everything is fine. I thought everything was just fine when I was drinking with my friend.
 
Some people are just bad drunks simple as that and they get violent for no reason except that they are drunk since alcohol does not agree with them. This is really no different then people having bad reaction to certain other drugs. Others like me have a short fuse at the best of times and when i get drunk that short fuse can become non existant under the right or should i say wrong circumstances. I have gone completely apeshit on people for doing something when i was drunk that i would ordinarly just brush off or give them abit of a slap at worst.

I can be properly psychotic while drunk and have many a time been pulled off people because i was beating the shit out of them and wouldnt stop. This has led to me being in handcuffs a few times :\ . When im sober (or atleast sober from alcohol) most people who are actually what id call friends consider me pretty laid back and not the type to start fights.

I would strongly advise you to give up drinking if you react that badly to alcohol. I quit because i was a alcoholic and it was killing me. I was a fucking wreck and noone who had any sense wanted much or anything to do with me and i could hardly blame them. Alcohol is a bitch of a drug to quit and it took me numerous serious attempts to quit drinking. Finally i did with abit of help with a doctor to stop the DT's and make sure i didnt have a seizure. If i had not quit when i did i doubt very much i would be alive now.

How old are you anyway? I know when i was in my early 20's i was alot more violent then i am now pushing 30. Many people in their early 20's and teens including myself think they have something to prove but i grew out of that phase thankfully. Now i know that starting shit is pointless and leads to nothing good. I have the scars to prove that it leeds to nothing good actually :\
 
I think it may have something to do with the fact that alcohol removes your inhibitions. So when you think something violent, usually you inhibit yourself from doing it for a number of reasons, but when you're drunk, you don't care and just do it. There are certainly many other factors involved, but for me this one makes the most sense.

I become pretty violent at times with alcohol/benzos/anything that reduces my inhibitions, but otherwise I am fine (sort of). I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that being uninhibited allows me to excuse terrible behaviour.

I also notice that in these violent states of mind, I become extremely emotional, going from being very aggressive to being very sad/crying. If you want some control over this, don't drink as much or at all. I've injured myself a few too many times from alcohol/GABAergics and have finally learned to either control it or use something else.
 
I'm 28. I'm not an alcoholic. I don't drink every day. Today I'm not going to have a drink cause I have to work overnight for example. So I don't have a strong chemical addiction to alcohol, no. I don't have to drink all the time but I want to and when I do have a drink I will continue to drink until I either run out of money or all the shops close. I don't want to drink that much, and before the first drink I fool myself into thinking that I'll be able to control it. Problem is, the more drunk I get the more I want to drink. There doesn't ever seem to be a limit where I'm satisfied.

I know I should quit drinking but it's something I've failed to do, and declared that I'm going to do, so often that it's getting embarrassing. Like if I go to dinner with people and they're all drinking wine or whatever, by choosing not to drink in that situation - I'm not the guy who doesn't drink, I'm the guy who has a problem with alcohol. And maybe I do. But I'm tired of constantly trying and failing to quit alcohol so I've pretty much given up.

It is getting worse though. I have had so many unexplained injuries this year it's not funny. I often wake up with absolutely no memory of half the night, having done and said horrible things. Most of the time I'm bleeding and bruised. At the moment the inside of my hand is cut to pieces, my knuckles are fucked, my back is fucked, I have a bruise on my arm, another on my leg and a couple of small cuts on my face. This time was different, because there were witnesses that I could ask to find out what happened. Usually I just do it to random people on the street.

I suspect that I try to antagonize people into beating the shit out of me rather than trying to beat the shit out of them. But that makes even less sense than trying to hurt people. Like why would I want someone to hurt me? It doesn't make any sense.
 
I find alcohol seems to really bring emotions upto the surface, but since your judgment is so clouded you become unable to rationally interpret these emotions and simply act out on them.

Out of the many different substance's i've used over the years, alcohol is still one of the strangest in how it effects me, maybe because it's virtually impossible for me to understand what's actually happening while under the influence.

I always feel just a little psychotic after i've had alot to drink; i get weird flashbacks of childhood memories.. my childhood was good so it usually has a very positive effect on my mood, and i think because of this i actually get sent into a manic mode, and become reckless.. i've lost thousands of dollars in a single night before.

This obviously scares the hell out of me, because although i'm not been violent im in such a manic mode that i act out on reckless activities. And the coming down depression of the next day is so overwhelming i feel like i sold my soul..
 
You are abusing alcohol whether you drink it every day or not. You obviously have a problem with it if you have experienced so many blackouts. Drinking to the point of blacking out on a regular basis is a huge warning bell IMO,

Why not stop drinking since you don't react well to the alcohol? It doesn't even sound like you enjoy it and you're even getting injured. At least stop drinking in excess. Just because you drink doesn't mean you have to get full on shit-faced, you know? If you can't do this then once again, you obviously have a problem with drinking whether it's an everyday thing or not =/

Please be careful.
 
I behaved in much the same manner as you have described. On alcohol I could become a danger to me and strangers. This did not happen when using narcotics, only alcohol. I did not behave like this.
I also knew when it was really getting dangerous.
I was fortunate I stopped, 32 years ago. I have not missed it, for me I could not handle it, and I did not want to be that person anymore.
So your aware I know many people this is how alcohol effects them. There are also people who drink a lot. They do not beat up friends, family, or strangers. They are responsible and like themselves. I was not like this.
Alcohol effects everyone in different ways. When your fighting friends then strangers that is a serious wake up call that you may need to stick to soda or seek some help?
 
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