being left out of the rotation.

[gearfiend]

every group ive been with passes to everyone, always. you dont break rotation unless there is a legitimate and very good reason. everyone usually reciprocates in the end, whenever we have weed we throw in, if not we assume its all good and youll throw in when you get the chance. never really had a problem with this... my advice: get new friends. those dont sound like people who are enjoyable to smoke with...

 

[What 23]

I would choose new friends. They aren't or he is not a friend. I'm not sure why you would even be in that situation.

I didn't like when my roommate would bring around "random" friends of his, and ask me to smoke them out. I still did it... But very little material. I wouldn't want friends to bring around other friends, who simply mooched. This was part of my frustration with him. I moved out.

But I wouldn't have some guy "watch my shit", who I worked with, and treat them as you have been treated. No matter the extra relationship otherwise, or not. That guy sounds like a fucking sack.

Boo him.

If he smoked with you no problem before, I'd wonder what happened to change this? Do you know? Was it like that? Simply not like you?



For me, I have been left out before, but usually by only one person in a group. Another would pass it my way. That person to skip me just made it unnecessarily awkward. I was usually with weed anyways, as I smoke alone a lot anyways. I have no issue keeping everyone happy that I can, but there has to be a real relationship for that to continue. If there is not, I'll find a way to not be around those people.

Are you alone basically in this town?

This brings me to the thoughts that I often used to get... If it weren't for the drugs and their unavailability, at times, I would not have association with certain people.

 

[Darksidesam]

In my experience

If you love weed, and love smoking it but dont like smoking with Arseholes who don't share it or cain the blunts/joints,
Dont pass etc

then dont smoke with them, it will just ruin your smoking experience, however i understand this is hard if that person is part of a group of people you are smoking with.

I hate smoking with anyone who wastes weed even lol

 

[Jibult]

To everybody saying that OP needs new friends: This is not a friendship circle/session he's consistently left out of, it's a work session. Co-workers. It's a little easier picking new friends than it is to find new coworkers.

 

[drug_mentor]

Around here smoking is such a social event that if there's a ring and you leave someone out of the rotation, even if they are a stranger, it is considered rude. If you want to smoke all by yourself, then do it all by yourself without other people around you. Cannabis etiquette differs from place to place, but I like to say that 'it's just weed ffs'. I also try not to judge people who decide not to partake in these common social rituals. Don't take anything for granted even if it's a social standard of sorts, nobody is entitled to anything or something.

The attitude that sounds prevalent in your area kinda pisses me off! So if I feel like getting high by myself or with a few buddies I have to hide from everyone else because its not fair to smoke in front of them? Do you apply these crazy rules to cigarettes and liquor too?! So if I only have enough to get myself and one or two other people stoned we should just share it around anyway and get nobody high? That is seriously stupid shit in my view and I don't get where people get this sense of entitlement.

I am pretty decent about smoking people out, I am not just saying that because my opinion might make me seem like I ain't generous with smoke. The thing is that I am a habitual cannabis smoker, that means I take care of me and the people that help me out in a bind first and foremost. If I am holding plenty of weed then I am going to smoke out whoever is there, in the more likely event that my supplies for the day are limited then I am going to consider who I smoke and who I don't and strangers, people I don't particularly like and those who have never smoked with me before are going to fall off that list pretty quick. I am not trying to be a dick or exclude anyone, but I figure we all choose what we spend our money on so if I spend my money on weed and you spent yours on something else then why are you entitled to my weed but whatever you spent your cash on is your own? Don't really add up. Jibult makes a point that if someone doesn't smoke you out they are excluding from something you both enjoy, this is true, but if they only have enough weed for themselves on them as would often be the case then maybe they wont enjoy burning away their hard earned without so much as a buzz at the end?

I don't think its particularly difficult to make sure you always have smoke for yourself, I sure manage to never run out and I am far from rich or the most well connected guy. It sort of annoys me how many people seem to feel entitled or adopt the "it's only weed man" philosophy but it is rarely THEIR weed so it is pretty fucking convenient that way. If I manage to always have smoke and you want to smoke that much you should manage too, and then you shouldn't really need to smoke on mine too often. I guess from my posts in this thread people might think I hang around a bunch of moochers, that isn't the case, but it is something I have encountered enough to take a dim view of it and some opinions in this thread seriously remind me of this type of person, particularly the OP.

Alasdairms post might be blunt but imho it is completely fair.

 

[shimazu]

imo

no homo

 

[alasdairm]

Well see, when you put it that way it makes it sound childish and immature.

well, that's what the OP read like to me - childish and immature.

just my $0.02, of course.

alasdair

 

[What 23]

still, the guy has him watch his ps3 and things (why would someone watch my xbox? I have no idea. I lock my apartment...), but treats him like this. it is just weird. the entire thing sounds weird.

why do you "watch" his PS3, D's?

 

[Lezeli]

I think another thing that should be considered that's being left out is what are you like when you smoke? If you've smoked with them before and you're that guy that gets hell paranoid, or turns into a bit of a dick, or won't shut up about evolution when your high then that's another possibility. You should really confront him though and be like, "look dude, I want in if you're going to smoke with me, why have I been passed over". If he doesn't give you a straight answer he's probably being a dick.

 

[FnX]

The attitude that sounds prevalent in your area kinda pisses me off! So if I feel like getting high by myself or with a few buddies I have to hide from everyone else because its not fair to smoke in front of them? Do you apply these crazy rules to cigarettes and liquor too?! So if I only have enough to get myself and one or two other people stoned we should just share it around anyway and get nobody high? That is seriously stupid shit in my view and I don't get where people get this sense of entitlement.

As a matter of fact... it kinda does apply to cigarettes and alcohol too. Someone has a pouch of tobacco and although it is common to ask permission as a sign of courtesy, nobody assumes the owner is going to decline (unless they want to be a dick on purpose or have a very little amount and risk running out of tobacco). As for the alcohol, I rarely drink with complete strangers but among friends or semi-friends, people constantly throw beers around for others to drink, make drinks/cocktails for each other and so on. When taking drugs socially it kind of makes sense that everyone is in the same headspace. I wouldn't really call it seriously stupid shit either, like I said, if you don't want to share because you have so little or whatever, what is stopping you from smoking discreetly? Unless of course you deliberately want to put yourself in a position where other people might ask if you could share and you get kicks out of declining or whatever. Personally I try to avoid those awkward situations. I don't understand why call it 'sense of entitlement' either as we are basically discussing manners here. If I offended someone by swearing I wouldn't wonder how can someone feel so entitled to not having to hear certain words.

I don't think its particularly difficult to make sure you always have smoke for yourself, I sure manage to never run out and I am far from rich or the most well connected guy. It sort of annoys me how many people seem to feel entitled or adopt the "it's only weed man" philosophy but it is rarely THEIR weed so it is pretty fucking convenient that way.

I kinda agree that it's funny how usually the biggest advocates for sharing are people who are incapable of procuring their own. But if you disagree with the notion 'it's only weed', then would you care to elaborate in what way exactly is weed so special that it makes you feel so angry and annoyed when discussing this? It's a weed plant that can literally grow unattended in the bottom of a ditch.

 

[drug_mentor]

^ I really don't get off on declining people anything I just don't know why if I want to burn one down I should have to hide so as not to offend people that want to smoke weed but not bad enough to have their own... I am not walking up to people and blowing it in their face but you make it sound like if it is in public it is fair game and I just don't agree with that. I don't really see it as awkward to decline someones scab request either honestly, although if I can avoid it I probably will.

Me and my mates all share drinks heaps and franky I see drinking as much more of a social activity than smoking cannabis, even still I am not handing out brews to strangers the way you suggest it is customary for cannabis to be shared in your area.

Why is it good manners to share weed I don't understand? Is it also good manners to share money or your meal at a restaraunt? I mean where does it stop, it just seems crazy to me that because its drugs this laissez faire attitude is supposed to be adopted. Particularly bearing in mind where I come from drugs are rather expensive. I don't think there are any similarly priced commodoties that people feel obligated to hand out so why should I feel this way with cannabis or other drugs? I smoke with someone if I want to smoke with them not out of some feeling of obligation, conforming to social norms, attempting to avoid an awkward situation, etc.

It is funny you should mention swearing because I find people who get offended by swearing to be pretty illogical. It is one thing if someone says something that is actually offensive but people who subscribe to the idea that certain words are somehow vulgar, regardless of context, are not particularly intelligent in my view and it seems kind of arrogant they expect others to share their view of what is vulgar and what is not.

Weed isn't overly special, I mean if it was anything else I am constantly in possession of or spend a lot of money on that people felt it was totally acceptable to EXPECT I am giving it away I would be just as disapproving. What does make weed unique is its legal status, that drives up the cost and makes procuring it more difficult as well as a crime. I like to smoke weed every single day, so I spend a lot of my hard earned to ensure I do have herb to burn daily. I don't really feel like handing a whole bunch of it out just so I can have the fuck around and risk of going to obtain more twice as often, I also don't really like being so broke I only have 5 bucks to put gas in my car but the fact is I currently smoke like a third or more of my modest income and so shouting other people can get unaffordable unless I want to skip days smoking (which I don't). For these reasons it does annoy me a bit when I feel a vibe coming from someone that they are entitled to my weed.

 

[Jibult]

If I was in your area, FnX, I would most definitely be the out-of-town dickhead that would grab you to burn one with you in front of everybody else. Shit, I might even start talking about how incredibly stoned I am afterwards, just to rub it in a little more.


I don't know why but I can't stand when people, especially people I don't know, come to expect something from me. If I have no special relationship with a person and I realize they're beginning to rely on my for one thing or another, I'll purposefully do the antithesis, the exact opposite of whatever it is they've come to expect.

Maybe it has to do with feeling like other people are beginning to feel entitled to whatever I had been doing with/for them in the past.
I dunno, I guess I just like spontaneity. Repetition kills me, and if a particular person were to repeat the exact same interaction with me on a day-to-day basis I would begin to hate that person (through no fault of their own, really, I think I'm just slightly antisocial, lol).



/therapysession

 

[LOGan1314]

Have you smoked this guy out before? Did you throw down any money?

 

[FnX]

If I was in your area, FnX, I would most definitely be the out-of-town dickhead that would grab you to burn one with you in front of everybody else. Shit, I might even start talking about how incredibly stoned I am afterwards, just to rub it in a little more.

If it was me that sponsored your high, I would only be happy trust me . I'm a big advocate of sharing almost anything and everything, food included always giving from my own and trying to ask for as little as possible from others. Trying to lead a good example, the way I think people should behave. It makes me happy, I don't do it out of a sense of obligation or anything. I would sincerely give up everything I have, even my life if it would guarantee happiness for the rest of the mankind. But like I said, I don't judge people who don't like sharing, I believe everyone is perfectly entitled to their opinion.

@drug_mentor: I can understand the whole it's illegal argument. It does indeed make a commodity more rare and therefore more valuable. But the beauty of it, at least to me, is the fact that sharing more valuable things is even more beautiful. I guess it comes down to the fact that in certain places of the world people sort of prefer to act like the plant wasn't illegal at all. Maybe on some level it isn't. And you seriously don't have to share half of everything you have if you feel like you can't afford it, it's just the gesture of sharing even something. ~0,1g worth of decent bud will get someone with a reasonable tolerance reasonably high, even though not sharing at all is generally frowned upon, so is constant mooching without giving anything back. Sharing doesn't equal being completely responsible for getting random people as high as they've ever been. I think that because of the whole legality aspect people around here tend to smoke under the radar anyway, so if someone is lucky enough to catch you, might as well give them a toke of your spliff. At least it's better than being dragged to a jail :D.

 

[Jibult]

^^I'd like to point out that it's ridiculously easy to share when rolling up... at least compared to glassware and vaporizers. Every person throws in a half G (or covers gas, or provides a comfortable setting, or says "Hey, you guys want a pizza?" etc. etc.), one person twists up and everybody benefits.

I find that my bubbler is a much less social way of smoking than passing a blunt or joint around a group of friends. I decided to post that after realizing that damn near every time I smoke a J (for the last year or so, at least) I'm smoking with somebody else and everyone involved contributes something. It just so happens that I use my bubbler more frequently and just overlooked how the people I associate with treat blunts and joints.

 

[Folley]

There is no rule here in Washington.. if you want to do it, you go ahead. If you don't, you simply tell them you're running a bit low. No one gets mad, they might be a bit bummed they aren't getting baked but if you don't have much weed anyway you're just going to be smoking a bowl, maybe two then calling it good.

If someone was smoking a fat blunt in front of me I'd sure as hell be jealous in the least, and would probably expect at least some hits off the roach.. that's only because I'd do the same back if I had that much weed, though.

 

[porkstock]

OP, you don't have a cold sore do you?