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Behemoth oral hydrocodone dose.....

negrogesic

negrogesic

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Well, like i mentioned in my other post, I bought some pure hydrocodone alkaloid (freebase) powder. I tried dissolving some in ethanol and injecting (around 240mg), without much sucess. Unfortunately its not water-soluble so its difficult to inject. Keep in mind that i am on 170mg of methadone a day (yes, i decreased 10mg!), so my tolerance is high, and the so called "blocking" properties of methadone makes it hard for me to get high.

But, evidently this hydrocodone base works well orally, and it is more potent than the salt. Also, hydrocodone in general has a high bioavailability, and one of its principal metabolites is hydromorphone.

So. My plan. Since the injection didnt work out, im thinking about trying a very large oral dose. I am thinking 600mg. According to this narcotic dose calculator: dose calculator, 450mg of hydrocodone is about equal to my dose of methadone. However, I want to get high, so i will have to take more than just the equivolent. I think i will wait later in the day, like maybe around 6pm to take it, because I take my 170mg of methadone all at once in the morning, so at 6pm it should be well past its peak and on the comedown. I am tempted to take benzos before it, because i ALWAYS take benzos before shooting heroin, otherwise i dont nod off. But i think for this first attempt, I will try it without the benzos, not out of fear of OD, but i simply want to see if i can actually obtain a distinguishable opiate high.

But I have a few concerns. Even though I may be tolerant to the euphoric effects of hydrocodone due to the methadone, i might not be tolerant to the negative side-effects of hydrocodone, like itching, insomnia, nausea, headaches, anxiety, dysphoria, irritability, and of course respiratory depression. Nevertheless, im going to attempt it, cause negro wants to get high.....

So, im pretty sure no one here has tried this, so i cant ask for experiences, but i suppose constructive suggestions could help. I've taken 19 norcos without issue back before methadone, so im not sure what will happen. I know most hydrocodone comes attached with acetometaphan, so one can only take so much at once, making it hard to relate to a 600mg dose, but has anyone tried really high doses (over 120mg)?

Hmmm, im still unsure about this, but i think im going to go ahead with it. Wish me luck.......
 
Anybody? Well, in anycase, i am going to take them in about 3-4 hours. I will see what happens. Im VERY tempted to take benzos to potentiate it, or at least to be additive to the effects of the hydrocodone. I already weighed out the 610mg, in two capsules, and will take them this evening. Im just worried about adverse reaction, particularly dysphoria and insomnia.....
 
Have narcan ready and 911 on speed dial. Besides the usual warnings, good luck!
 
hey, i would save the benzos for when the hydro starts to wear off. firstly you will be able to get that pure opiate bliss, and also just because you don't know how they would react in such high doses. good luck
 
i'm not experienced enough to critique these methoods, but i'd just like to say goodluck.
 
i just had 180mg of hydrocodone last night (yes APAP extracted) and, while I just woke up (5pm... oh well it's sunday) i feel just fine. If you have some Soma, take that along with it.... it's the only thing I've ever found that actually potentiates hydro a wee bit. Benzos don't do squat for me in terms of potentiation.
 
Yeah I took over 120 mg. or norcos on a regular basis for a month or so and had no other side effects except for addiction and a thousand good nods.
 
I took it at 7:40pm pacific time. Ive taken like i said 190mg before without any issue. But this is 610mg, and in a potent freebase form. Its only been 15 minutes so i will see what happens. I smoked a few hits of weed before to prevent any possible stomach problems. I was thinking about taking an anti-histamine, but i want to know what its like on its own. I hope i'll actually get a decent high. If it doesnt i will simply try a higher dose. The amount of eye constriction i get is very tell tale of its narcotic strenght. I think im going to need more like 800mg. But i will find that out in the next few hours......
 
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Well, i didnt get high, 3 hours later. I might have felt a bit dizzy, but am not sure if it was the hydrocodone. My pupils were slightly constricted. I need to try 800-1000mg.
 
Wow. Good luck man. I peronally love hydro. When I was addicted to it, I needed about 120mgs to get a decent high. I was usually takin 250mgs+/daily for about 2 months. Only problems i had were addiction and constipation. Oh god the constipation....8( :X :p 8o

Now that im not physically addicted anymore, been clean for bout 2 montsh... the tolerance has gone down significanly . 55mgs got me absolulty wrecked (in a beatifuly opiateish way :)). One of the BEST opiate highs IVe ever had actually. It was along with 4mgs of clonazepam too though).

Iv'e only done it one time since I got clean 2 months ago... The 55mg dose. I plan on using opiates VERY rarley(once every 3 months or so) b/c daily usage just leads to addiction, and no highs. Just tryin to feel normal evry day. Tryin not to feel sick. Baaad road... you gotta comdown sumtime, and the withdrawls. well i wont even go into tthat.

I know negro knows all about that...


-VD
 
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Hey Negrogesic. Man, is there anyway to come off of that 'done, for like just a day to do some hydro at un-God-like dosages, or will they want to piss you (if you miss a day 'cause you've got the vicious flu or something that would keep you there where you couldn't get to the clinic; do you get any take home dosages- Sunday?).
How long would you have to go to get any reasonable mu-agonist clearance. You don't want to wash the brain completely of methadone, you just wanna' feel the hydro real nice, eh? Could you do this in one day, or would you need several days to get a reasonable methadone clearance. Probably several days due to the half-life of methadone, eh? And, just for the record, that's a pretty hefty dose of 'done to try to blast through, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong (for real), but it seems that the best way would be to forego your 'done so you can get some of that hydro lovin'. But in a daily methadone clinic atmosphere, is this easier said than done? Please, school me on this. TIA :)
Above all, Negrogesic, be careful & safe....
 
soundphaRm said:
Hey Negrogesic. Man, is there anyway to come off of that 'done, for like just a day to do some hydro at un-God-like dosages, or will they want to piss you (if you miss a day 'cause you've got the vicious flu or something that would keep you there where you couldn't get to the clinic; do you get any take home dosages- Sunday?).
How long would you have to go to get any reasonable mu-agonist clearance. You don't want to wash the brain completely of methadone, you just wanna' feel the hydro real nice, eh? Could you do this in one day, or would you need several days to get a reasonable methadone clearance. Probably several days due to the half-life of methadone, eh? And, just for the record, that's a pretty hefty dose of 'done to try to blast through, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong (for real), but it seems that the best way would be to forego your 'done so you can get some of that hydro lovin'. But in a daily methadone clinic atmosphere, is this easier said than done? Please, school me on this. TIA :)
Above all, Negrogesic, be careful & safe....
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coming off 170-180 of methadone is a EXTREMELY hard thing to do. I mean, thats an enormous amount of methadone. ! If negro quit cold turkey for a few days.. i bet he'd be sick as a dog. more than that actually. you HAVE to taper off that much done.

negro i guess you were just cursed with a high opiate tolerance. and that sucks. get off the done man, work with you clinic and tell them you want off of it. Then you can start getting high again off hydrocodone/oxy in reasonable amounts. Just think... poppin like 70mgs of hydro and getting wasted.

it'd be worth it dude...

-VD
 
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Well, i didnt get high, 3 hours later. I might have felt a bit dizzy, but am not sure if it was the hydrocodone. My pupils were slightly constricted. I need to try 800-1000mg.
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Fucking hell man, thats a hell of a wack of opiates you'll have in you. Taking 170mg of Methadone and 1g of pure freebase hydro!
Without trying to sound sick/weird/whatever don't you have the worst constipation known to man, ever!!!?
 
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I was on 90-120mg oxy a day for a while and ran out, i CW extracted 250mg, (25 tab 10s) for a couple of days in place of my OXY. I never got the buzz that i got from OXY, no negatives at all just a general warm feeling all over. I did potentiate with benzos, (xany bars 4-6mg) and ate a few tabs on top also. I was noddin a little and this lasted for 4-6 hours, id rather have my OXY. At that high of a dose, what is the upper limit of drug metabolism in the body? Does the Hydro just build up and wait to be excreted? I never had any trouble with nausea and opiates so if you dont i dont think youll have any trouble. I agree that skip your methadone and try the hydro in its place just at 2x dose of dose calculator, this may sound crazy but should work without killing you.
 
Skip the methadone for a day? Or multiple days so it clears out of your system? I REALLY gotta disagree with that... the methadone is a bitch to kick, I'm sure you know that, and I would think if you layed off it for a couple days, when you take the hydrocodone it would have more of a compensitation (compensatory?) type effect .. if anything all it's likely to do is act inplace of the missing methadone, so yer best bet, if you don't want to be in total agony is to keep going to a higher dose of the hydro ...

Try again next weekend... go at it with an extra few hundred mg's of the hydro ...

I had the same problem with some OxyContin I got about a month ago - even a few hundred mg's wasn't enough to breakthrough the fentanyl doses I have been on ... OTOH, I was blessed with a quick metabolisim - if I go a full 24-36 hours between patches/lozenges, taking only benzos to help with the withdrawal (which actually sets in fairly quick) but then jump right back with my normal dose of each, I can actually maintain a decent buzz for a full day (15~ hours or so, and that's with stuff like a heating pad to really push the former) ..

Either way, let us know how it works... I was under the impression the base was worthless - but hey, if it's straight hydrocodone freebase why not try to salt it out? A pure freebase should bond fairly easy if you used an acid (you're guess on the amounts is as good as mine) ..
 
There is NO way i could just stop methadone for a while in order to reduce my tolerance. Plus, methadone's high-life is so long, so i would have to stop for a while in order for my tolerance to go down. When i accidently took two doses in one day (i get alot of take-homes), i didnt have a dose from saturday morning untill late monday morning. I got incredibly sick, and could not stop projectible vomiting, strong trembling and just some really horrible withdrawal symptoms (worse than my 4th day off high dose IV oxycontin). So that is NOT an option.

The base was supposedly more potent orally than the salt. A friend took a small amount orally (30mg?), and he got very high, and i know he wasnt lying, his eyes were pinned.

The hydrocodone actually turned out to affect me more than i thought. It kicked in later than expected, and at midnight my pupils were unquestionably constricted (not pinned though). Still i couldnt feel a real discernable high, aside from some dizziness. But, i slept suprisingly soundly. It definately did something. When i usually wake up, i feel sick from not having taken the methadone (i usually have the beginning of withdrawal symptoms, like diarrhea, runny nose, twitching, trembling etc.), and this morning i did not experience that. So i guess the hydrocodone kicked in late, and helped me feel better in the morning. When i shoot heroin at night, the same thing happens.

Phreex is right, I need a higher dose.
 
For what that shit costs I would invest my money in some heroin - you know that you can boot (whatever your dose is) and get high... so I don't see the point in playing around with these insane oral doses of something when you need a fuckin gram or so to cop a buzz ..

But hey, you might be able to sell it to people (like your friend) and turn a profit... so while I dont see it as a key capitol investment it could have some longterm payouts in the resale market .. also, might as well play around with seeing if you can't salt it out ...

I'm just surprised that even given yer methadone dose you were not able to get a buzz off THAT MUCH hydro .. orally I found hydrodone always had a strong oral bioavailability - even when I would have to rail 40mg's Oxycodone to get high (this is like in the stone ages) I could still take 50mg (or about) of hydrocodone and get a buzz ..

Tollerance is a nasty bitch, I mean, nasty as those fat white chicks that are only into black guys... for some reason it seems they always have red hair and a REALLY big/unatractive ass/thighs hrmm.. they also talk more black then even the guys that date ... they are some of the largest consumers in the cocaine/crack market and only listen to thug music, and I somehow equate "tollerance" to someone like "Emily" (but she goes by something like "Tishwana") ... oh that's a bad thought ... man I need to go clean out my brain with some Actiq ... ok, I guess I got off on a tanget but I was just thinking about why so many red heads somehow make the CHOICE to gain lijke an extra 50 pounds all below the belt and take the most violent black guy they can find...
 
thats insane, 200mg of oral hydrocodone and i'd be dead, and i thought i had a tolerence.
 
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