Stimulants Beginning to smoke crystal, My first technique, experiences, and questions. Thoughts?

[clash_the_crash]

(Sorry if these questions have all been posted before.. In the search I either don't find anything, or just something similar.)

For those of you who do not want to read my experiences, I will restate all of the questions I ask within this writing at the bottom of the page for quick viewing.

My love for Crystal started about a month ago, so I figured it was about the time that I invest in a cheap little pipe. I've absolutely loved the thing so far! (I was previously using light bulbs.) I got it yesterday and have been trying to figure out all the tricks involved with smoking. So if y'all can tell me what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong, or what I need to do, it would be much help.

My pipe is about 4 inches long (very small in my opinion), glass, and is very thin.


1.) Carrying/Transporting:

I spent a lot of time thinking about the best way to transport this fragile little piece. I decided I needed a sturdy case, with some sort of padding on the inside to provide protection from drops. I didn't want to spend any money one the damn thing so I used what I had laying around the house. I thought of a couple ideas, and put the 'best' one to use immediately.


This is what I ended up putting together-

I got a small Tupperware container, about 5 inches long, 3 inches wide, and 2 inches deep. It is big enough for my bubble and has excess space for padding and other items. Better yet, it fits into my pocket and the small pocket on my backpack. Then I acquired some thick paper towels, folded one up and stuffed it in the bottom of the container, (I stashed some q-tips underneath the towel for cleaning on the mobile.) After that, I got one more paper towel and cut in in half. I folded the sides in towards the center (long way/hotdog style, with .5 inches to each fold) I used small amount of tape to make it hold the folds in place. By folding the towel in this fashion, the edge of the towel became thick, while he center was still just one ply. Then, I placed the folded towel on top of the other towel inside of the container. Now my carrying case was starting to take form! It now had padding on the sides, as well as on the bottom. Using another paper towel, I wrapped up my pipe and placed it into the container. Lucky me! The pipe fit perfectly into the little indented part or the towels. I currently keep a small baggie of my Crystal, along with a 2 inch long straw for scooping and loading. ( It is cut at 45 degree angle on one end, and melted sh on the other) along side the pipe. After clamping down the lid, I wrap it in a bandanna, which I use for cooling and wiping down the outside of the pipe.

I carried my case around all day and it seemed to work just fine but I still want to know what would work better,or if there are any ways I could improve my current one. Also, what else is a must for pipe smoking, or what will make it easier/more enjoyable.



2.) Hitting

One of the things I always find myself hearing stories about is how thick Meth clouds get. Whenever I hit my pipe, I get a nice cloud, but I don't think that it ever gets as thick as most, from what I have heard.

In my short time of smoking with my bubble, I have found that if I want to preserve my shit, keep it from turning brown, and prevent my pipe from cracking/breaking, I must start with the flame far away. I usually start with the tip of my bic lighter (don't have a torch) about 1.5 to 2 inches away from the bottom of the bubble. From there I move the flame in a circular motion, distributing the heat evenly. I try to focus the heat around the edge of my shit. I do this because not only am I extremely afraid of cracking it (How big of a chance is it to break a pipe with heat and how do you prevent it?), I simply do not want to waste anything.

From my research on this forum, I have found that some like to melt their Crystal down and let it re-Crystallize, but others say there is no point. (I do not think that I have to worry about "burning off the cut" or whatever because from what I can tell, my stuff is very pure.. ie; no white or yellow on it, just straight up clear crystals.)Does this "Before hit melt" have any effect on the size, taste, thickness, or potency of a hit? Sometimes I do it, other times I forget.

So after its nice and warm and it starts to smoke, or after you get done with your "pre melt", are you supposed it cover the carb hole? (if that's what you call it.) I have never, out of fear of getting burnt, covered the carb hole. Also when are you supposed to start "Twistin the puddle"? My self taught technique is to move my flame .5 to 1 inch away from the bubble and slowly trace the outside edge of the puddle. Once it starts to smoke, I roll my thumb and index finger in the stem to twist it. Am I waiting to long to twist? Should I be twisting the whole time?

So FINALLY, it is time to inhale that sweet smoke into my lungs. I heard that the inhaling process should be very slow. At first, being the long time pot smoker that I am, inhaled quick and deep, as I would a marijuana pipe, and got a minuscule hit. After that, my hit consists of "thousands" of very shallow, small breaths, in rapid succession. Each one filling up my lungs a tiny but more, leading up to a large hit. I take the hits like that because in between each little breath, the pipe has a chance to fill with smoke (I am basically milking, then almost clearing, milking, then almost clearing, and so on.) Is this a good way to hit a pipe? And does anyone else use this technique?

I do not hold in the smoke because I've heard it recrystallizes in your lungs, and I have not noticed any greater effects of doing so.



3.) Cleaning/ Scraping


From what I have seen and heard, almost everyone has a different was to clean and scrape a bubble.

I bought my pipe from a friend who had been using it for himself. When I got it, it had tons of white film, and what looked to be melted crystal in the stem. (I think I heard him call it "back crack" or something?) I decided that before I would pack my first bowl in it, I would smoke this buildup of "resin," if that is the right term for it. I got a chopstick, (Idk why I had one laying around), stuck the chopstick down the stem, and easy scraped all of the film and melted Crystal down into the bubble. After doing this, I noticed that it was not the usual clear/white color. It was a white/gray color and looked very nasty. I wondered if it was ok to smoke, so I started melting it into a puddle. It turned into a dirty brown color and tasted horrid, so after a hit, I tried to shake out the the melted substance by holding onto the stem and swooping the pipe in an arching motion. (dumbass.) I got a little bit out, but most of it rushed to the top of the bubble, where it was a bitch to scrape. Before I attempted to scrape it for a second time, I noticed the hardened puddle was a nasty, clear grey color. Is this ok to smoke?

Later that day, after the pipe had more "fog" built up in it, I recalled hearing that you can put a few drops of water in your piece, plug the holes, shake it until white is gone, let the water run back into the bubble, then evaporate it and you will have I nice bowl to smoke. I did this and tried to speed up the process by using my bic to help with the evaporation of the water. This all resulted in a decent sized brown puddle, which I smoked. Is this an efficient way to collect the crystallized shit in the stem and bowl?

There are so many ways to clean I pipe! the first time I cleaned mine I used a q-tip, some cigarette ash, and a little bit of water.

What common household items are best for scraping?


That is all of my newbie/ green shirt/ stupid questions! Sorry If that was really long, or hard to read, as I am speedin while I write this.


Questions I asked:

Is there any way I can improve my current carrying case.


What are some mandatory items for smoking out of a pipe, or what can I add to my small collection of tools to make pipe smoking easier and more enjoyable.


How to get a fat, cloudy hit?

Best ways to prevent pipe cracking?


Is it better to melt down crystals into a puddle, let it harden, and THEN hit it? Why or why not?


When are you supposed to start "twistin the puddle"?


Best way to clean a pipe?


Best way to scrape a pipe for smoking?

After scraping, is the powder you end up getting ok to smoke if it is a greyish color? what about brown?

Household items for scraping?


I appreciate everyone who reads and responds to this so thanks! it's my first post sorry if things are not how they should be.

 

[blue1995]

Eyeglass case? The size is right, leaving a bit of extra room in there for whatever else you want to carry, and they are usually covered with felt on the inside.

An excellent product for cleaning various glass "items" is called Whink. (I'm hoping is ok to throw the name out there?) I've seen it at several big-name gettin' places next to regular cleaning products. No scraping necessary, just wiping. I've heard of using rubbing alcohol but never used it myself.

I was never a big smoker, not my preferred ROA, so no advice to offer on other stuff. Everyone else always seemed to pull a bigger hit than I when using this method

 

[the red shark]

Don't clean your pipe with chopsticks or anything metal it will scratch the glass gear will be wasted if there is a crack inside the bowl. Use magic eraser only thing that removes the residue wrought scratching. If your bowl is black, charred and magic eraser isn't enough, use some acetone, buy at your local hardware store, dip the magic eraser in a bit of this, pipe will be sparkling in no time. Nail polish remover contains acetone, but other things too, you don't want that, just straight acetone.

Go to a service station that sells slushies, and get some straws with scoops on the end cut to size and on the angle so you have the option to use either end, whatever suits. The reason you want to spread your gear around the bowl is so you don't burn a particular area and hence waste gear. Keep the flame low like you are doing, to start with you want to melt down the gear into a liquid puddle, you should be twisting at this point right up until you exhale. The liquid puddle you roll around the bowl until it is re solidified. It may bubble, most cuts burn at a lower temperature than meth (171-175 degrees) so this burns them off and allows the liquid to form. So itcan then turn into vapour. If it is in one big puddle you will be smoking the less dense part of the puddle first but by the time you hit the middle where there is a thicker layer in order to get that to vapour you are burning the thinner layers. Evenly distribute it over the bowl. While you have your mouth over the pipe when you starting a frh bowl, light under the bowl flam2cm under the centre of the bowl and twist the pipe so it rocks from left to white doing this you are not overheating one spot. The bowl will start to cloud up, only light for 5 seconds just enough to get the bowl filling, keep rocking even after you have stopped the flame, inhale. While inhaling you should put your index finger over the carb-hole at the top of the bowl, straight after you finish your toke, kinda lift your index finger on and off the carb, you kinda move your finger and so it generates a bit of suction and once you exhale your hit, inhale the pipe again to get the excess vapour generated while to,OMG, by using your finger,, as it would have continued to vapour with your finger over it. IME smaller tokes are better, you will get the most out of your gear that way, like I said 5 seconds is plenty of heat, you may not blow out those big clouds but the fool who did that would have to have charred his meth at the very least wasted too much of it. (A lot of the time it's the cut, like a flammable solvent that actually creates the most smoke) so just cos you taking smaller hits and exhaling a bit less than someone else you are getting more bang for your buck. Doing it like that gives you more hits,takes a bit longer but in doing that, you are high enough after your pipe. Someone who has shot the pipe in one toke, will immediately pack another. If your gear tastes horrible towards the end that suggests you are burning it, same if your puddle is orange, brown, black. See it go orange less flame. Your gear should crystallise transparent/white/opaque a and maybe darkens lightly grey-y or a yellow tint that is fine. Other colours generally are not a good sign, but likely attributed to the synthesis with a substance not removed or something. If it goes black or tastes gross at the end and you have done everything right, there is a small chance one of the cutters burns at a higher temperature than the meth, so you are right in wanting it out. Allow the brown black shit to solidify, get your pointy ended straw and scrape it out, maybe put in a baggie, showing to your dealer and ask for better product. That is all for now will read and if I have missed anything will edit.

 

[tweex]

Honestly you'll save a lot of headache and get good HR value if you switch over to oral dosing instead.

 

[clubcard]

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/vice-news/sisa-cocaine-of-the-poor-part-1

Sisa - my bet is SE Asian methamphetamine smuggled in essential oils (unless meth usually smells like roses).

 

[MrSpeedyG]

Oral dosing will get you a hell of a lot more out of it like mentioned, i personally think oral is smoother and more euphoric and longer lasting than smoked even though its still the same drug. Others have said the same.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Honestly you'll save a lot of headache and get good HR value if you switch over to oral dosing instead.

Oral dosing will get you a hell of a lot more out of it like mentioned, i personally think oral is smoother and more euphoric and longer lasting than smoked even though its still the same drug. Others have said the same.

Other Drugs is a Harm Reduction Forum, the above two quotes are spot on and you can use the quick search option on the top right of this page or the advanced search engine for more confirmation, information and harm reduction if you want to.

There just isn't any Harm Reduction advice to be given in the case of "the best way to smoke meth". Ultimately it's up to you and we aren't here to judge your choice.

When it comes to smoking meth, it's all or nothing.

And "the all" becomes "the nothing" and that's just the way it is.

There are hundreds of threads on this subject, but it's up to you at the end of the day and we can't condone smoking meth "successfully, safely, best way or anything like that" in a Harm Reduction forum.

It's a contradiction in terms.

But feel free to use the search engine as you will find all the info you need there.

Sorry.

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