Before you jump on my case...

[swedger77]

Swedger and others are you guys big drinkers in general? I'm wondering less about the drinks consumed while rolling and more about long term drinking potentially affecting ones reaction to mdma.

Drinking is a very big part (unfortunately) of the social life in scotland and as such I regularly drink (almost every weekend) and have done since i was 16. Im not a "big drinker" though.

I ve never really considered if drinking at other times could affect the hit off of MDMA. I wouldn't think it does.

 

[dpd_mnk92]

Swedger and others are you guys big drinkers in general? I'm wondering less about the drinks consumed while rolling and more about long term drinking potentially affecting ones reaction to mdma.

I think it would be difficult to come up with an accurate answer when you consider that we can't even pin down the way we react to MDMA alone. This is reflected by the full spectrum of views about MDMA's long term effects demonstrated by the members of ED on a daily basis.

Although I'm just speculating, I'm sure frequent drinking would affect ones reaction to MDMA to some extent. Alcohol generally doesn't mix well with other things and, despite it's legality, is a poison in many ways. Also, In most studies, poly drug users tend to come off worst by quite a long way, unsurprisingly - the more things you throw into the mix, and the more frequently you do these things, the higher the risk.

Unfortunately, if we don't have much knowledge about the extent to which we are affected by something and are relatively sure it won't come back to haunt us in the short term, we'll continue doing it because safety conflicts with the YOLO mindset. There was always a tiny voice at the back of my mind saying "what if", but that voice was always quickly drowned out by loud music, friends, the prospect of being intoxicated on something and of course the far more persuasive dude on the opposite shoulder with the red horns haha.

 

[Sen5i]

spose in a sense i was physically addicted but i think it was choice, or i just really enjoyed it and stuff

 

[SilverFeniks]

Not much to say that hasn't been said .. but of course its psychologically addictive. Anything that makes you. Feel fanfreakin'tastic for hours will have that effect. If it weren't addicting, we could all be responsible users (as I once was).
I tried the 2-weeks thing, it really is hardly better than trying back-to-back weeks.
As a newcomber perhaps it will work for a short while, but MDMA abuse (over usage) will always catch up with you quickly.

Respect yourself and the drug and it will remain a magical experience for many years
I hope my recent transgressions won't forever ruin the experience, but only time will tell...

 

[opiaterock]

Hey opiate. Interesting post. So you used to do heavy drinking with your E? I'm really interested in this actually, because it was just one weekend similar to what you're describing that totally fucked me up and 8 months later I still don't fill the same.

I took 4 pills from Friday to Sunday along with heavy drinking and it rocked my world (and not in a good way). When you started out using were you doing multiple days in a row or is that something you eventually built up to.

The people I went with that weekend all did more than me but they were all fine. So in trying to find a variable that could explain my adverse reaction, the only thing I could come up with is that I was way more of a drinker than everybody else. I feel E and heavy drinking is quite a disastrous combination.

Heya, sorry I never wrote back until now I don't usually come in here unless im at least a little bit high lol... I haven't took E's or MDMA in 4/5 years at least and I stopped using it regularly a couple of years b4 that..

.. but in answer to your question it built up to doing them on multiple days it didn't start out that way, I don't know if E/MDMA is technically a drug that you build a tolerance to but it certainly feels like that in that one needs more to get the same effect & one can definitely handle more of the drug after a while.. anyway going off topic there a little -

What was your experience that weekend like? In what way did it rock you world in a bad way?.... I can only speak from my own experience, but what happened to me wasn't the alcohol that caused the problem - my theory is that my brain had simply had enough of the drug over 3 years of heavy use and eventually the pills caused me anxiety & depression which was pretty bad and I just had to stop takin them eventually due to the anxiety. About 2/3 years ago I decided to give it a go at a part and took one E and I had a panic attack coming up on it pretty bad, the party was in my own house so I just ended up lying down in my room with the lights off hoping it would wear off soon... now that E was definitly not the best there was some speed and MDMA in it for sure, but I am much happier now that I don't take E, like I said on another post the thought of it makes me physically sick now...

... now having said all that I do have one mate whose a fair bit older than me (in his mid '40s) that still likes to take E and he swears that he enjoys it better when he just has a bottle of water & no alcohol

But what adverse effect did it cause you? Was it anxiety?

 

[opiaterock]

I think its just one of those things when its your time its your time. Some can consume anything at a festival, drink like a fish and shrug it off on Monday. Some of us are unlucky i guess.

I think this is true, at least for me - MDMA after a certain point just doesn't work anymore the way it should

 

[Desohigh]

Tolerance issues. You need to take a long break. IMO, you can handle yourself.
When someone is rolling, i become jealous of course and say "that m.fucker is rolling i want it too".
I rolled as same as you do like every weekend drug. But now, I convinced myself not use MDMA. The shit inside is probably unknown.
Go for coke keta or LSD alcohool but not excessive.
It's hard to let it go after a weekend habit, but you move on eventually.
Thanks god, I don't have any depression anxiety for 25pills in 5months.