Heroin Been plugging heroin. Having bad side effects. Need answers!!!!

[HighonLife]

^^ well as far as getting yourself to have a BM, this isnt the most well recieved advice in not necessarily a healthy/wise/harm reductive approach but right now i think its just important you get a shit out

so maybe trying getting yourself some Amphetamines, adderall, vyvanse, dexedrine, concerta, whatever, take enough that you are able to shit, and see if the blood and musous persists after a BM, b/c if its just the consipation causing the blood then that will be a bit of a relief, but if it continues after a few poops then you really need to consider medical attention

then perhaps you should try snorting your dope instead of IV'in or plugging

and it sounds like you are trying to ween yourself off dope or are you still trying to get high/continue using just tryin to get away from IV, if your still lookin to get high then id advise you to snort, if you are looking to taper down n get off this isnt the best most efficient way but if your picking up 50 grams every re-up maybe consider just taking you dope orally n slowly tapering down.

best of luck to you, and i know as a dope addict you might be hesitant to go to the doctor, i mean after all what do you do? go to the Dr. and be honest that you sell and IV heroin but now in order to save your veins your puttin your dope up your butt. but you dont have to be entirely honest with them, i mean sure dr.s will ask questions n i know thats something most junkies dont wanna deal with but if this persists you really really need to go to the Dr.

i dont wanna sound condescending but you said your pooping 3-5 grams of blood n mucous 1-3x a day, are you weighing it out? im sorry you were just so specific about the weight sheer curiousity made me ask. but when the blood n mucous comes out does any feces come out?

anyways best of luck

 

[Montaka]

Moderator thank you so much for putting my thread in the correct location! I appreciate it soo much. thanks for your help and concern!

 

[Montaka]

high on life, lol no im not weighing the mucus thats just my guess. honestly it might weigh more then that but it looks like an 8 ball of powder to give you a visual. Im wondering if the mucus is normal because i know when i use to blow dope, my nose would run and when i would blow my nose a more then normal amount of snot/mucus what ever it is would come out. Im also wondering if my doses are to concentrated for my anul membranes to handle. Im only using 40cc of water. which is less then half a ml, and i have heard of people using baby oral syringes and using 3-5 mls. That just sounds like alot of fluid. its already uncomfortable with the amount im using. Its been three weeks now. I have no pain. Im starting to have successful bms. But im still pooping mucus every day, (before or after bms). Is this normal? has anyone plugged every day for their normal roa? and I am trying to taper down so i can go down to just blowing .3 a day.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Not sure if this is too late, but maybe someone else will stumble across this later, and it might help.
I recently relapsed, (well, a few months ago), and have been plugging black tar heroin, for 4-5 months.
I do this because it's much stronger than snorting & smoking, pretty damn close to shooting really, just hits slightly slower.
(12 grams a week.)

Anyways, Ive been having the same side effects, also with some other side effects.
But, Ive been passing blood when going to the bathroom, when I poop, at first I just saw a little blood, and nothing much,
then I started seeing more when I was wiping with toilet paper. Then just last week, I saw actual drops of blood.
I am currently on my last 2-3 days of this, and then I am tapering off, and will be going back to NA meetings, and hopefully return to miserable, but atleast
feeling physically healthy.

But I've also had a side effect to where it's painful to pee, I believe it could just be from bacteria in the urethra. Or it could be from enlarged prostate due to the stress of that area.

I think the whole mucus thing is normal, because when I plugged straight liquid OC for about 3-4 years, it caused no problems, but there was mucus, but no blood.
Im going to guess that maybe the acid from the black tar heroin is what could possible be causing the damage. Im curious to know if putting some baking soda or something in the mix might change the acidity or something enough to help with the irritation. (There is no physical irritation or pain, just imagine there is irritation due to the blood)

 

[Znegative]

I plug adderall every day, though I inject my heroin (which is East Coast). I have never had this problem, but that doesn't means what's happening to you is not due to this ROA. I do have to add though, that you're using an awfully small amount of water to plug. The reason people tend to use 3-5mL is because that way the drug can spread over a wider surface area in the rectum, allowing for better absorption.

Also, you should really invest in these types of syringes called 'slip-tips' made by a company called Terumo (I should give credit to my fellow mod/friend Tricomb for turning me onto these). They have no needle, and while they can fit onto a micron filter, they aren't Luer locks. Here, I'll just show a picture:

Anyway, as far as that bloody mucous goes, definitely get it checked out. Perhaps your heroin is too acidic or has some kind of cut that creates irritation to tissue. I wish you best of luck though and commend you for trying to quit IV heroin. I'm getting to the point where hitting a veins becoming quite an ordeal too.

 

[limonov]

If your dope smells strongly of vinegar, it's probably too acidic for your ass- try dissolving it in a larger amount of water. I suppose you could add a tiny bit of baking soda...that might help if it's too acidic.

However- 3-5g a day? I'm sorry, I jut have to laugh at all the Americans who claim their heroin is 'typically between 70-90% pure on the streets'- no. Just no. In all likelihood it's some cut that is causing the irritation.

I've plugged a lot of things & a lot of heroin- in SEA the heroin didn't burn at all...but it was very pure & didn't reek of vinegar. Some homebake heroin burns when plugged- but it always smells STRONGLY of vinegar...if you use too an excess of AA & don't quench it, it'll burn. Dissolving it in more water would generally help.

But really- opiates don't burn when plugged. It's gotta be the cut- and there must be a lot of cut for you to do what you're doing.

 

[Znegative]

^It's definitely not all 90% but we definitely (at least on the East Coast, specifically NYC and Philly, my experience with tar is limited and bad) get some dope that is very, very good, just like we get some dope that is incredibly horrible. I have plugged east coast heroin two times and it worked out just fine, it seemed about 25% stronger than sniffing it, and I didn't suffer any problems as a result of it. Plugging tar, which I've only done once, is pretty damn painful though and I wouldn't recommend it, though perhaps if you first put it through a micron filter it would be easier on the 'old back door.

Also, OP, have you tried sniffing this heroin? If so, did it burn too? If it didn't burn nor cause any type of tissue damage or bleeding, than that would prove it was some cut in the heroin. However, if you have sniffed it without any problems, it would make me think that your plugging technique is wrong somehow.

Also, I have plugged liquid methadone before with no problems. Methadone is known for being quite painful to sniff or shoot, yet for some reason when I plug it I've never felt any discomfort at all-then again I get the 10mg/mL oral suspension and I'm only on 50mg.

 

[walterdini]

I've tried plugging my dope aa few times and never "felt" the drug come on like I did when sniffing it. I get ECP from nyc and have a big tolerance--would snort 4 bags at a time to keep stable or eat 240mg oxy per dose. And need to dose 4-5 times per day. (Total of 20 bags or around 1,000mg of oxy per day)

I'm on MMT now but am going on a trip and might not get takehomes and so would have to use doope to keep from getting sick. I've always heard plugging is better than snorting but never had any luck.

I wasn't getting "high" from my doses, as at that high an amount you just feel normal sick or sleepy, but never really get any euphoria anymore. But when I plugged 4 bags in 3ml of water, I didn't feel the below baseline -to-baseline change/come up I would normally fgeel when snorted.

Is there any reason why this could have been happening? Or was it just in my head---i did doubt the efficacy of plugging and I do have a nasal/snorting fetish which may make sniffing more enjoyable for me despite the actual effects. I thought b/c I was severly constipated, that was causing the dope to not absorb, but it wasn't as if I had shit stuck to the syringe when I pulled it out... And I did plug 30 mins after a BM with proper tecknique according to all I've read...

So IDK, does plugging def work and it was just all in my head and I didn't give it a chance? Has constipation ever ruined a plugging experience for anyone? Are there any other factors that might be at work here?

I ask b/c if plugging really does work I will try it while awayy....