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Synthetix I doubt you'll ever get high off your suboxone again now that you have a tolerance. I take suboxone to detox off suboxone and I take ~1mg a day for 4-5 days and I wouldn't say it gets me high by any means, but it does give me energy and motivation.

How is everyone tonight? Down to my last .5 of dope and trying desperately not to finish it tonight so I can have a shot for tomorrow morning lol
 
hatrix said:
Normally ? I don't really normally take opiates... However, I used to really only take hydrocodone. I would take around 15-20mg because it was all that was given to me everytime. It got me high, not super high, but a moderate high.

That conversion definitely isn't right.... 0.3mg of buprenorphine is equal to about 10mg of morphine, 20mg of oxycodone or 10mg of methadone.
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I'm just quoting Purdue. All the equianalgesic charts I've seen rate it as 40x the potency of morphine. .3mg IV is equal to 10mg IV Morphine though...
 
"Prior Total Daily Dose of Opioid Greater than 80 mg of Oral Morphine Equivalents per Day:
BUTRANS 20 mcg/hour may not provide adequate analgesia for patients requiring greater than 80 mg/day oral morphine equivalents. Consider the use of an alternate analgesic.

Table 1: Initial BUTRANS Dose
Current Opioid Analgesic Current Daily Dose
Oral Morphine Equivalent.....................< 30 mg..........30-80 mg

Recommended BUTRANS Starting Dose...5 mcg/hour....10 mcg/hour" [source]
 
Pagey said:
Haha well thank you I guess?! Yeah, I don't think anyone would really suspect track marks, I was more worried about people thinking I cut or something :\ I went out tonight and a few people asked me about it, I told the cigarette story and no more questions were asked - so thanks again!
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You went with the cigarette story, not the strained tendon one, probably more plausible, unless people asked to look 8o

thesameoldfears said:
So it turns out the guy I cop from messed up when he told me "there's some stuff coming in next week that'll turn you blue if you do more than half a line, just a heads up". Apparently the stuff I got yesterday was already the new stuff, so I guess that's why I got knocked on my ass from a bag and a half when days earlier a three bag shot didn't even get me going. That would have been a nice distinction to make...that "coming in next week" actually meant "what I'm handing to you now". I'm glad I used at least a little bit of judgement and didn't jump right to my normal dose, though it certainly stressed the importance of a tester shot in the future. And that a half dose isn't cautious enough.
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That's pretty fucking irresponsible of the dealer, surely he would know that what he was giving you was the top notch shit, did you at least get it at normal prices and not pay over the odds for it, even so it doesn't make up for almost dying

Tester doses should be common with all drugs, it's just so easy to forget to do them and get on with the real session, they can save lives though and I urge people to do them more often.
 
Mugz said:
That's pretty fucking irresponsible of the dealer, surely he would know that what he was giving you was the top notch shit, did you at least get it at normal prices and not pay over the odds for it, even so it doesn't make up for almost dying

Tester doses should be common with all drugs, it's just so easy to forget to do them and get on with the real session, they can save lives though and I urge people to do them more often.
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Not if they don't touch their shit and just sell it. Then all they can go off of is what their guy says and by look lol.
 
I mean I believe your source, I just don't feel like it's personally equivalent to that for me. I feel for me it's more along the lines of the IV conversions I mentioned, as I usually plug my opiates so BA is relatively high, though with buprenorphine not as high as with other opiates I've taken. It's BA plugged is only like 54% but almost double what it is subligually so it does the job much better.
 
I believe the strips kind of helped fix the SL low BA; less gets swallowed. And you were comparing to IV? I was wondering why you listed oxycodone as a weaker dose than morphine lol.

edit: yes, 300µg IV buprenorphine is about equal to 10-12mg of morphine IV.
 
I know tons of people that sell pills, but don't eat them. *shrug*
 
Jktm said:
I believe the strips kind of helped fix the SL low BA; less gets swallowed. And you were comparing to IV? I was wondering why you listed oxycodone as a weaker dose than morphine lol.

edit: yes, 300µg IV buprenorphine is about equal to 10-12mg of morphine IV.
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I don't think the strips did anything to the BA as far as info I could find. I asked multiple people before I ever even took any what would be the best ROA.

I've taken probably ~0.7mg or so tonight. Could be up to 1mg. I've been WAY higher off of an oxycontin 30 cut into quarters and taken orally.
 
That's because it's a full agonist...buprenorphine (while originally used as an analgesic in .2mg pills), is more often than not used to get people off of opioids, because it doesn't get them high.
 
Jktm said:
That's because it's a full agonist...buprenorphine (while originally used as an analgesic in .2mg pills), is more often than not used to get people off of opioids, because it doesn't get them high.
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I'm well aware man. I'm plenty knowledgeable in the world of opiates.

At the dosage I've taken for my suboxone, I'm actually feeling the effects of a full agonist. Norbuprenorphine is the primary active metabolite of buprenorphine at <2mgs and is only knocked off above 2mg.
 
If it tickles your fancy, then that's good. That shit makes me one irritable asshole though lol. Probably because I'm dealing with opioid side effects like itching (and I tend to get irritable on just about anything but morphine anyway), sweating, nausea, etc., without getting any pain relief from it lol.
 
Can't sleep, woke up 2 hours ago, then went to try and sleep again half hour later, then again another half hour later, and now it is 6:15 am I might aswell not bother trying again. I should be asleep too because I took more benzos than usual last night to get me to sleep. Sucks only getting 3.5 hours sleep.


Jealous of your heroinz Siccness
 
That sucks my friend. I like the itching =D It adds to my high, and feels great.

I get angry sometimes on opiates more so than when sober, but not always and more often I don't then do.

This morning was definitely weird though. After two consecutive nights of use, I was nodding like crazy and became nauseous in my morning class around 9 AM. This was... 11-12 hours after dosing the bupre too. I don't think I would have withdrawal of any kind after two times using it, even if it was consecutive days and it has a long half life....
 
So No one recommends butalbital to potentate Hydrocodone? Everyones advising me not to...I was thinking 10-15mgs of Hydro and just 1 50mg pill for the barbs? (My tolerance needs 35mgs of Vics to get high). Will it potentate it THAT much?
 
FUCK NO! Especially if you're gonna be sniffing/slamming brown sugar.

Benzodiazepines cause the calcium ion channels to open and close; barbiturates leave the mother fucker open, flooding you with GABA.
 
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