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I am just curious as to how many people got hooked on other opiates before bothering with H like myself? I am wondering, because i honestly struggle to see how anyone could deal with the bullshit surrounding H long enough to just become hooked on that. I mean, what are the chances of becoming a full blown H addict before getting ripped off a few times, getting total shit half the time etc etc. and just saying, 'fuck this i love the shit but its not worth all this'. I use H to suppliment my OC intake, and I dread it everytime, I would far rather have enough OC than mess with low grade street garbage. In fact I am really considering just getting on suboxone for when i run out of OC, becasue imo H is joke most of the time.

Heroin was my first opiate. (Well, I had popped a couple T3s or T4s a couple years earlier but not nearly enough to feel anything). I honestly don't think I'da kept on using if I tried OC first. OC just doesn't have that pull, you know what I mean?

You must be from somewhere not in NY or NJ. Finding a dope dealer in NNJ or NYC is easy. You might get ripped every now and then, but if you meet people with good connects then you simply don't get ripped.

*do not post prices*
 
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^ Unless you get bunk tabs.

Plus, think of it this way: the savings that you get overall from heroin compensate for the losses that you get from getting ripped off (as compared to OC).
 
Not to mention how nasty it is to shoot all those binders and what not. What might not be active orally, might be active intravenously.
 
good points on both sides, i guess it all depends on your situation, etc etc. been usin daily, for 7 years this run, and handlin it much better than when younger, oc is solid, but supplimented w/ D . and still workin on gettin it str8. im near ny/nj, but chillin out in the sticks for some years now, probly why im havin a hassle, anyway just rantin, shitty week.
but really i was just talkin about ppl gettin started, sure once connects are solid its all good.
 
What to call dope/heroin

Chiba/Chiva - Northern California

I started doing dope in Washington DC We call white in reference to China White could tell you if it was truelly China White or if you had a good dealer he could get you some Bone the shit not stepped on by him straight from his dealer which I had a good dealer use to take him to get this shit. Sorry got of topic. Now I have heard it reffered to as Boy on the East Coast but when I moved to LA. CA. it was call Chiva. and I wouldn't call it anything else they look at you strange and don't want to give you what you are looking for. I delt with nothing but mexicans they need to feel like they can trust you so you call it by what they call it. I never had any problems getting ahold of the local terminology for what ever drug I was useing at the time. So keep in mind to listen and pay attention before you go looking
 
dope dealer ever give you more? Whats your move?

so i just got back home for spring break, been clean for two months. figure ill give my dope dealer a call and get half a bundle.

he says an hour he'll call me back, and like clockwork i get a buzz in an hour asking where to meet me and how much i want.

i ask how much for a bundle, he says Dont post prices. , i ask how much can 70 get me, he says Dont post prices/quantities for a particular price.. ok i say to that, meet me by the convience store good good.

he calls me and asks if i can buy him a pack of smokes. i tell him ill buy him 3 packs, and give me $50 for what we agreed on. he says thats cool.

so i buy the packs go outside into his car, give him the three packs and he is like 'ok take it man' and i say wait up lemme give you the $50 first. he says ok. i give him the 50 he hands me the bags all bound by a rubberband and says 'remember, dont snitch and call me if you need another'

i walk the 20 minute walk home, come and see he gave me more! oh wow what a treat!

so whats my move? do all of them right? you think he is going to know? is he going to come and kill me! (lol)

what would you do if anything, and has a similar situation ever happened to you? what did you do?
 
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My roxi/oc dealer got in my truck one day for a short ride, when he got out I noticed his pill bottle on my passenger seat full of at least 100 roxis, I didn't think very long or hard about what to do and I made a quick u turn and returned his bottle. Instantly regreted it after doing it, but oh well
 
I wouldn't mention it. If he say something just say you thought he was just "hooking it up" and that you will repay him if he wants. If he wants you to repay, then I would suggest just paying a little more for a couple of times until it is squared off. You should have an idea of how much he moves, so if it is a decent amount chances are he wont notice unless the next guy got your half bun lol
 
I don't know my dealers names but we've been doing tit for tat for years and have grown to be friends. Often we'll trade advice on various topics such as how to cut a bad batch to make it seem better or how to cut a decent batch to stretch it just far enough not to lose clients. Their prices are the highest, and they are consistently reliable. I never ask for a price break, because even for quantity there are none. However, when a valuable piece of information is given, sometimes I will get double what I paid for. Best move is to compliment their kindness and insist that they not be so generous all the time, that you want them to stay financially healthy. this reverse psychology will cause them to consistently be generous with portions, and creates a good vibe where there is none of that low end wheeling and dealing mentality
 
I feel you on the conflicted thing. If anything, just cop from him and no one else. If he treats you good, then he deserves the business, feel me?

When I was first starting out, I was copping 4 bags and the runner was like "I'll give you 5 for XX if you keep coming back." Well, I'm an honest guy and told him I wasn't that type and he told me to keep it anyways. Kept copping (not heroin, but weed) from the same spot but never copped dope from them ever again and it was no deal.

Surprisingly enough, drug dealers are pretty good businessmen. I'm sure if he hadn't given me some horrible shit I'da come back and back. But he knows that one bag ain't gonna make shitty dope good, so it's not like he's gonna get tight because I didn't keep buying his crappy dope.

Hey yo, dont be postin prices :) its a dc-wide rule, not just the stamp thread.
 
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Please remember not to post prices in this thread or any thread in DC. most of BL has the no prices rule aswell just for yalls information. had to fix up a couple posts in here, not a big deal but just a reminder to yall.
 
Yeah they're businessmen just like the guy who sells cars or financial advice imo. It's not about getting deals cut and all of that stuff rap music makes it sound like. It's about building trust and privacy-respecting friendships. There are probably a lot of things I don't want to know about them, including where their stuff comes from, why if you come in with thousands of dollars worth of hammers they'll want to buy all of them right away, etc, but if you just treat them like people, how's business, are you in good health, etc, then yeah you'll always get better hook ups than the guy who's constantly looking for the price break point. Because of legal issues, norma. economics can't be the norm between the majority of a dealer's broke, irrational, and scheming clients.
 
A while back in this thread i mentioned how its rare i see an empty stamp or a full one for that matter ~ when im walking with my head to the ground. scoping the sidewalks for dog shit or whatever else may cross my path

well it just dawned on me i dew see an awful lot of rubber bands :\

just saying
 
so i just got back home for spring break, been clean for two months. figure ill give my dope dealer a call and get half a bundle.

he says an hour he'll call me back, and like clockwork i get a buzz in an hour asking where to meet me and how much i want.

i ask how much for a bundle, he says Dont post prices. , i ask how much can 70 get me, he says Dont post prices/quantities for a particular price.. ok i say to that, meet me by the convience store good good.

he calls me and asks if i can buy him a pack of smokes. i tell him ill buy him 3 packs, and give me $50 for what we agreed on. he says thats cool.

so i buy the packs go outside into his car, give him the three packs and he is like 'ok take it man' and i say wait up lemme give you the $50 first. he says ok. i give him the 50 he hands me the bags all bound by a rubberband and says 'remember, dont snitch and call me if you need another'

i walk the 20 minute walk home, come and see he gave me more! oh wow what a treat!

so whats my move? do all of them right? you think he is going to know? is he going to come and kill me! (lol)

what would you do if anything, and has a similar situation ever happened to you? what did you do?

If you gave him extra money, do you think he'd give it back? I'd consider it a gift and move on.
 
A while back in this thread i mentioned how its rare i see an empty stamp or a full one for that matter ~ when im walking with my head to the ground. scoping the sidewalks for dog shit or whatever else may cross my path

well it just dawned on me i dew see an awful lot of rubber bands :\

just saying

I always think that too when I am walking around in paterson im like where the fuck are all the empty stamp bags but today I walked by a pile of needles someone through out the window so that was good enough for me lol
 
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