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Recently I had a bad roll at a party. I got dropped off by a friend to meet my other friend there and I had one pill left over from a few I had so I figured I'd take it. The other pills made me roll nuts so I was pretty excited.

I went to cut the pill in half just to pace myself kinda cause i didnt wanna be to bad, but when I cut it it just crumbled so i scooped it up and just put it like in my mouth kinda..

I smoked a bowl like immediately after. I was sitting outside and not really feeling anything, kinda antsy. I kept getting really cold outside or way to hot inside so I was switching between the two.

After a while I started to get really anxious and I just wanted someone to talk to just not a crowd of people but everyone was really drunk and didnt wanna just sit and talk. By now alot of people had left and I was planning to sleep there. I went and sat down in a dark room and called a friend. My anxiety was really high and I was so cold. All I wanted to was sleep, but I was afraid to sleep because I thought they were bunk and I was gonna die.

I was basically having the opposite feeling of rolling.

I drank milk because someone suggested it to me, and I called a friend who knew alot about ecstasy and he told me it sounded like they were heroine based? I also talked on the phone with him the whole time and he kind of comforted me but it was getting really late (like 4am) and he wanted to sleep.

I talked to a few of the remaining people there who were chillin and just like relaxed kinda then I went to sleep.

This was my 6th time rolling, and I had rolled the week before off of mollies.
and I had been rolling alot recently like almost every weekend.

I want to roll again but only on special occasions instead.
But Im afraid I will have another bad roll.

sorry if this is long or confusing...
 
OK a few things spring to mind..........

There is NO such thing as heroine based pills. In all my time here there has only ever been one pill that I am aware of submitted to Ecstasy Data that contained H and it was believed that was a setup.

Heroin is extremely expensive and pretty much inactive when consumed in the small ammounts a pill would contain.

So forget that idea straight off.

Set and Setting play a large role in use of mdma.


The mix of grass, a known causer of anxiety, and mdma may well have caused or exacerbated your problems.

I get the impression from reading your post that you are a normally fairly anxious person or prone to anxiety attacks. weed and even mdma will exacerbate that problem.


I strongly urge you to buy a test kit. use pill reports and discuss your pills in your regional bluelight forum.

Also check out the Directory where you can become better edumacated about mdma
 
You did 2 things wrong. You rolled again after only a week of recovering and you smoked before your peak. You had that coming I guess.
 
Get a test kit. Anxiety and temperature flucuations sound like they could be pipes symptoms. Who knows what you ate. And DEFINITELY do yourself a favor and read up on MDMA. Don't keep getting your info from uneducated friends. The heroin rumor is old and has been debunked over and over again.
 
Most likely it could have been the smoking. Sounds like it caused some anxiety for you.

The symptoms you've pointed out do sound like you took a piperazine pill, but it could have been your state of mind also because ive seen people trip out on really good pills. it's all in your head sometimes.
 
foxyloxy55 said:
Get a test kit. Anxiety and temperature flucuations sound like they could be pipes symptoms. Who knows what you ate. And DEFINITELY do yourself a favor and read up on MDMA. Don't keep getting your info from uneducated friends. The heroin rumor is old and has been debunked over and over again.
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where is your proof that the heroin rumor has been debunked? link?
 
pnut3844 said:
where is your proof that the heroin rumor has been debunked? link?
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Google is your friend. There are tons of links and I didn't even really look. I've seen this debunked in articles that I have read over the years. It's pretty well known in the ecstasy community.

Here's what erowid has to say: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info11.shtml

Ecstasydata.orgs heroin pills for over ten years: http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=heroin

So pretty much if I person claims there are heroin in their pills, it's most likely the case they don't know what they are talking about.
 
foxyloxy55 said:
Google is your friend. There are tons of links and I didn't even really look. I've seen this debunked in articles that I have read over the years. It's pretty well known in the ecstasy community.

Here's what erowid has to say: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_info11.shtml

Ecstasydata.orgs heroin pills for over ten years: http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?start=0&search_field=all&s=heroin

So pretty much if I person claims there are heroin in their pills, it's most likely the case they don't know what they are talking about.
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ok the erowid link is obviously inadmissible. i mean they tested 2 pills that had an opiate similar to H in it. and three reports of H being in pills. ok? so they base their statement off of 5 accounts? and just because a database only has a few pills that say they contain H in them, that doesnt mean its a myth. do you know how many people dont test their pills? or if they do, alot prob dont bother putting up reports of it on database pill sites.
 
and this whole thing about "the pill would have to be the size of a nickel to have an amount of H that you would feel", ok show me the test results where people slowly increased the dosage of H and mdma until they found out exactly how much H it took for them to feel it. its all just speculation, on both sides of the argument.
 
i find it funny how you said you called your friend that knows alot about ecstasy and he told you it was probably heroin based.

And it is very unlikely for someone to put heroin in ecstasy pills. Why would someone waste money on putting a drug in a pill that is supposed to be injected? it could happen, but its stupid.

As you said there is 5 reports containing opiates and how many that dont?! there are probably only a few batches with an opiate trace in pills out of millions of ecstasy batches every year. so its kinda like winning the lotto getting heroin in your pill, and if you do its not going to have enough heroin in one pill to feel its effects, digested that is. but someone has already covered this.
 
pnut3844 said:
ok the erowid link is obviously inadmissible. i mean they tested 2 pills that had an opiate similar to H in it. and three reports of H being in pills. ok? so they base their statement off of 5 accounts? and just because a database only has a few pills that say they contain H in them, that doesnt mean its a myth. do you know how many people dont test their pills? or if they do, alot prob dont bother putting up reports of it on database pill sites.
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Like I said, google it. I just pulled up the first link. I spent 3 seconds on it; there are many more. Also, I think ecstasydata is a pretty good account of common adulterants found in pills. Heroin just isn't found in ecstasy pills with rare exceptions. It isn't profitable like caffeine or pipes. Do you honestly believe heroin is a common adulterant? Can you find evidence to support your side of the argument? (And don't say the DEA FAQ about drugs or anything like that because I don't trust their opinion at all.)
 
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lostsoul.On.E said:
The symptoms you've pointed out do sound like you took a piperazine pill, but it could have been your state of mind also because ive seen people trip out on really good pills. it's all in your head sometimes.
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^agreed. it has a lot to do with your state of mind and your surrounding.
Note you are also rolling to much to soon. .
if you've taken them before and rolled fine. You might have had a bad trip.

If you haven't taken them before or tested them there might have been something else in them.

You should take a break either way
 
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