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Bad experience on AMT. Anyone else?

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wistfulmiscreant

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Hi there, I've just created this account now in the hopes this has happened to anyone else?

Few months back a few mates and myself were at a festival, they are all veterans when it comes to AMT and other such psychedelic substances. I myself have had acid based trips before but never on AMT. I ended up orally ingesting 25mg of it (the people I was with had been tripping on it for days and experienced very meaningful trips so I thought I'd give it a go), as soon as it hit me things started to go wrong. Firstly I felt quite nauseous and started to throw up (though from what I have been reading this is common). As soon as I throw up I went back to our campsite and started having hot flushes and sweating profusely.

This my friends, is when the clusterfuck began. Almost immediately a severe wave of paranoia came about me and I was having back to back anxiety attacks to the point where it began hard to breathe. I had to have someone slap me in the face to get me to breathe (I know that sounds weird but omg did it help) this was happening for 4 hours after ingesting AMT. When it looked like things where gonna get better I lost the ability to rationally think, there was too much stimulating me and I was in severe mental pain constantly reliving a horrible past memory over and over. By this point my mates started to really worry, and informed one of the older more experienced members of our little group (lets call him Harry). Harry took one look at me and dragged me into his trailer and gave me some orange juice and made jasmine tea. From what I remember I was screaming to be knocked out and had to have someone change my clothes as I felt they were "choking me". I was not able to differentiate between people, was sweating profusely, having difficulty to breathe and also tripping the hell out. Harry the beautiful man that he is tried to get hold of some Valium to knock me out, but alas no success.

This was about 5 hours into the trip. This went on for about another 3-4 hours (My sense of time was screwed, 1 minute felt like 3 hours) until it started to die down. I was not able to sleep till the next night nor was I able to eat properly.

Hands down worst night/trip of my life.

Its been 4 months since I had that trip and recently this week I had a flashback. The flash back lasted 2 hours and was incredibly similar to what I went though e.g. hard to breathe, paranoia, hot flushes etc etc.

That being said its been fucking educational. Apparently I was muttering the whole night "AMT is a drug to be respected, dont fuck with AMT". Though this experience was only isolated to me, everyone else thoroughly enjoyed their trip. But I don't think I'll ever risk AMT again. (several of my friends swore off it after seeing the mess I was)

I was wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences?

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Additional notes:

Before I ingested the drug I had had several joints throughout the day.

I am 5ft, and 126lbs stone female aged 19.
 
AMT is a nasty drug IMO

I've taken it two or three times, and have never enjoyed it.

The first time was the worst, I was horrendously sick for about twelve hours. It felt like I had been poisoned. I could not move without getting sick.

Then I tried it a time or two after that, thinking that maybe the first time was the exception. Though those times were not as bad, it still sucked enough that I have written off AMT for good.

It sounds like you had a bit of mental breakdown, you are lucky you had friends to watch over you.

Rolls Royce of psychedelics my ass...
 
IMO this sounds like a combination of
1. Bad set/setting
2. Lack of experience (Just an assumption after reading your post, please don't get offended, I may be wrong)
3. Far too low a dose
4. Nobody informed you how aMT works

aMT is a tricky one, there's several phases... The rough comeup, the MDMA phase, the MDMA/LSD phase, and the long comedown. I find that if I take any less than 30mgs I'm stuck in between phase 1 and 2 and needless to say its pretty uncomfortable. 25 mgs IMO is far too low a dose, I wouldn't hand out under 40mgs to even an un-experienced tripper. Also NEVER try a new drug at a festival/rave! You should know better, it can be very overwhelming. aMT is notorious for its rough come-up and If you weren't informed I could see how you may think your in danger but at 25mgs that extremely unlikely. When dosed right and in the right setting aMT is like a 10-24hour (depending on ROA) MDMA roll with rather subtle but beatifull visuals. Also after plugging aMT I will never take thos drug orally again, this drug was meant to be plugged in my eyes. The duration is reduced to 10-12 hours and the bodyload is only about 45mins of minor nausea, the rest is pure bliss. Tbh there's not many drugs that I would take over aMT but this drug just works for me very well. Anyways if you decide to give it a second chance, which I strongly reccomend you do, go for 40mgs plugged. If your not fond of plugging then go the oral route but expect a rough 2 hours but after the purge you should be dropped off into a rather sedating, extremely euphoric phase and it only gets better from there ;)
 
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Thanks for replying guys!

Una, It's reassuring to hear that someone else has had a horrible physical reaction to it (I probably did have some next mental breakdown) have you had any long term effects may I ask?

Hey Captain! I'm not taking offense at all, id say I'm pretty experienced with drugs for someone of my generation but in terms of psychedelics I'm a bit of an amateur. Tried a few other legal highs but amt was something I was SOOO not prepared for (was a bit misinformed about the effects) Totally agree, wrong setting. When you're tripping the hell out and a hippy is playing the didgeridoo across from you it DOES NOT HELP lol

I'm quite curious as to why you think 25mg is a bad idea for first timers? (Again, just stepping into the world of psychedelics) but I'm also very aware how sensitive I am to drugs. A low dose on most stimulants or tanquelisers etc etc will have me sorted.

I'll have to consider your suggestion for the future. Wouldn't say I'm ready for another round with amt just yet but I don't want to knock it after just one try.

Thanks for replying guys!
 
I did not have any long lasting effects, from the AMT at least. I would not worry about it too much, if you are concerned about that.

I think what Captain was getting at about the 25mg dose is that it is not enough to really get a full understanding of the drug. That amount is not going to make you trip hard (well maybe if you have never tripped before it might), but still likely to have some of the physical symptoms. However, in your case dosing more than that could have very well been a disaster!

In all honesty, AMT is NOT the drug I would recommend as an introduction to the psychedelic world. The physical symptoms are just too much to deal with, and it lasts way too long. It seems like 50% of people like AMT, and the rest can not stand it. If you start looking through the threads here, you can find many other people that share my distaste for AMT.

At best you are looking at a nice trip with mellow visuals, that many people compare to a "roll"

At worst you are looking at a 10 - 24 hour long puke fest, filled with nausea and flu like symptoms (or possibly death).

I'm not trying to scare you away from AMT, but there are so many other more proven and reliable psychedelics that are available.
 
I think what Captain was getting at about the 25mg dose is that it is not enough to really get a full understanding of the drug. That amount is not going to make you trip hard (well maybe if you have never tripped before it might), but still likely to have some of the physical symptoms
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Bingo ;). aMT was my first psychedelic at around 50mgs and I honestly couldn't have asked for a better first experience. Trust me, dose right and you will likely have a blast but of course there's no drug that works for everyone. I've taken aMT at least 20 times and have given it to plenty of people and when given the proper dose and info all of em had a blast. Sure some had a rather uncomfortable bodyload but the 2 hours of suffering has always been worth the other 14 hours of fun! I have always given out 40-50mgs and it seems to be the perfect dose for beginners.

I was a reckless, dumb 14 or 15 year old that weighed no more than a 110lbs when I first tripped and at no point did I feel like I was gonna have a "bad trip", in fact nobody that I've given it to has had a difficult experience. I strongly believed I dosed WAY more than 50mgs, I placed an order for 50mgs and dosed the whole package without weighing! Looking back that had to be at least 100mgs but we'll just say 50 because aMT is hars to eyeball. Stupid? VERY much so but like I said at no point was I worried besides maybe the come-up. aMT is probably the friendliest substances I've worked with, on par with the weaker 2c's.. A perfect beginners drug. As far as the 24 hour puke fest goes, that's only if you underdose. It's strange, you basically never fully leave phase one and I agree it sucks but its easily solved with a higher dose. At 25mgs there was likely very little visuals and no real euphoria so the positives weren't even brought out yeat. aMT isn't like a sedative and is very unique, treat it like its own drug. YMMV
 
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