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Bad experience on 2CE , should i be put off acid ?

perfection5712

perfection5712

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Had my first experience with psychedelics recently (mdma etc excluded) , Tried 2CE probably not a good one for a first try , in fact it was a very stupid one as id never even heard of it but i asked what sort of amount i should be doing ect , the guy i got it off handed me a strip of waxy paper about 3cm long and 5mm wide obviously i handed it back and asked him to sort it as i had no idea what to do , anyway he handed me back a line and i did it.

didn't sting much , not like everyone made out it would , i came up pretty quick and quickly decided i didnt like it. Some of the guys said this may have been because i had been drinking/ because i was tired. I didnt feel remotely euphoric , i felt tired and shakey , i was seeing 6 of everything like i was looking through i bug eye lense thing (the thing with all the hexagons) and it was all shaking aswell so i got a head ache. I had bodyload and and gut rot. My stomach was in knots, no nausea though. i felt cold and has some slight urinary retention and a few closed eye visuals. Went on for about 12 hours but felt like an eternity.

It was not an experience i am keen to repeat but i dont want to write off psychedelics so i thought i do my research before making a similar mistake. Thought id ask people with experience in the area.

If i had an experience like that on 2CE should i be put off acid?

I have done K a few times and had some fantastic trips full on 3D visuals i was expecting something similar. In Movies etc they often portray trips as cartoons etc ... how do i get that kind of trip?

Advice would be much appreciated
 
Not at all. 2C-E has a very strong dark space to it... Really clean LSD is entirely different from 2C-E although 2C-E can produce some strong trips reminiscent of LSD.

Also, that really doesn't sound like 2C-E to me...
 
2C-E just isn't for some people, I personally get no nausea and find it extremely euphoric, but I know some people who actually find it dysphoric, or simply not euphoric - and who get nausea so bad that they took it once or twice and are now terrified of taking it again.
 
Well if you take 2C-E up the nose your first time with a psychedelic, you kind of deserve to be smacked. Especially since you don't even know what dose you took.
 
Honestly, I found 2C-E to be much harder on the body and much harder to handle than LSD. LSD gives me a euphoria that 2C-E could never give me. Honestly, the answer to your question is no. I love LSD (and did from the first time it entered my bloodstream) and I don't really like 2C-E (although I've only had 3 experiments with it). I would be weary of high dose LSD, but I think you would be impressed with one or two hits of good LSD.
 
That's my point... A bad experience with 2C-E, which tends to have a rather cold nature, shouldn't turn someone off of LSD.
 
2C-E can be a very rough psychedelic - most people find it very 'neutral' (not euphoric, no positive mood lift), and snorting it makes it more intense and can make the negative side effects much worse. I probably wouldn't suggest 2C-E to a first timer, but more importantly I would DEFINITELY not suggest a nasal dose on the first try of 2C-E, let alone the first try of any psychedelic! If you were out partying and drinking when you decided to dose, it may have also not been a great set and setting.

Visuals are tricky - some trips are extremely visual and others not at all visual, and it's really hard to predict and difficult to 'aim for' lots of visuals. They're very rarely the most intense part of the experience like they're often shown to be in movies - if you're tripping hard enough to get really interesting open eye visuals, you're probably tripping hard enough for the mental aspects to get pretty crazy.

Different psychedelics effect people differently, and each person tends to find certain ones that work best for them and others that don't work so well for them. Personally, I find that 2C-E gives me a lot of simple distortions (things look wavy, blurry, colors look distorted, etc.), and sometimes the visuals are very colorful, but in general they aren't that interesting, and the doses required to make the visuals all that intense makes the negative side effects (over-stimulation/headache, gut rot/nausea, etc.) a little much to bear. I like it, but it's not one of my favorites and I doubt I would have liked it if it were my first psychedelic. Acid is much milder on the body (it leaves me very tired by the end of a long day of tripping, which can give me a slight headache, etc., but nothing like the body load of 2C-E), it gives me lovely rolling waves of euphoria, the visuals are interesting and the peak is much more intense in my experience, with effects like time distortion and ego death being much more common than with 2Cs.

I'm not gonna advise you to take or not to take acid - that's up to you, of course - but I will say that to me, it sounds like you don't like 2C-E (or even just nasal doses of 2C-E) more so than that you don't like tripping. Based on your description and the fact that you enjoy K it sounds like you're comnfortable with the idea of an intense drug experience that takes you 'out of your head' for a while, but what you got with the 2C-E was a lot of negative side effects and not a very intense or enjoyable trip. If you do decide to try acid, do it with an open mind - don't expect a repeat of your 2C-E experience (obviously - if you expected that you wouldn't be trying it, right?), but also don't expect it to be like the movies, or even like what you imagine it's like after reading trip reports. The best way to approach psychedelics as a newcomer is with a cheery mood and an open mind, ready to explore whatever your mind throws at you.
 
cheers all very helpful , and yes magicalkat i know it was stupid, perhaps ill leave it a while and then try acid , with the openest of minds :) i guess you'r right its not so much i dont like tripping more that i didnt like that trip. cheers guys
 
A bad experience on LSD shouldn't put you off LSD. Every trip is different, and is subject to a multitude of variables. Not to mention the fact that a bad experience can often be an enlightening one.

With the vastness of potential experience with psychedelics, you really shouldn't write any one substance off after a single bad experience. Under different circumstances you can achieve entirely different results.
 
Firstly i would never snort 2ce, snorting 2c's other than say b,c or d is sillty idea if u inexperienced. I took 20mg oraly last weekend on my own in my flat. I always get nauseas and was alittle sick but then felt ok but i didnt really like it, the visuals were like very much like acid but i got no euphoria (unlike 2ct7 which is splendid) it also gave me abit of a headfuck. i will try gain, maybe it was juts cause i was on my own. it dididnt last 12 hours and after 4 hours i had a nice afterglow.

Cant wait to get my hands on some acid, it wins hands down over 2ce but i really do love 2ct7 so ill have to save judgement on that.
 
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2c-e is a vicious soulshattering bitch.
She can rip your heart out, just as much as she can fill you to the brim with joys and delights.
 
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