Dissociatives bad batch 2fdck from NL shop.

[cgdon]

It's been a while since I've had 2FDK as a crystal, and because the price was reduced
so I thought I'd place an order this week. Then I saw that the 2FDK was powder and HCI or something similar. The smell was different, the snorting burned like hell, and the effect was incredibly numbing, with a dysphoric feeling. Not the therapeutic stuff like 2fdck/ketamine.
I also get terrible itching and diarrhea attacks with ice cold feelings from this stuff.

I've noticed that the RCs that are still available in the Netherlands are of extremely poor quality. Or am I crazy?
i'm gonna bin this bag.


Morris A and B showed that there were impurities (a green color indicates other substances). this costs about 13€ for a gram?
Morris A B (2fdck) https://ibb.co/5hvVnPzZ

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[Chaurus]

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Dutchie here as well.

Haven't purchased new RC's after the July 1st RC ban in The Netherlands.

Got bored with my first three dissos, ketamine, 2-FDCK and O-PCE after a few sessions. The feeling ends up irritating me.

If memory serves, snorting did burn down to low Hell.

Although you certainly must have bought a bad batch, could it be you're just over 2-FDCK?

 

[cgdon]

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Dutchie here as well.

Haven't purchased new RC's after the July 1st RC ban in The Netherlands.

Got bored with my first three dissos, ketamine, 2-FDCK and O-PCE after a few sessions. The feeling ends up irritating me.

If memory serves, snorting did burn down to low Hell.

Although you certainly must have bought a bad batch, could it be you're just over 2-FDCK?

Hi Dutchie! all good?
I don't know if you've seen this batch of that powder yet? I use 50-60mg every hour or so.
Sometimes I get enormous side effects, and then sometimes I get a ketamine-like feeling.

 

[Chaurus]

Hi Dutchie! all good?

My favorite RC's are banned now and I don't like dealers.

Have, however, a considerable stash with RC's I've never tried before but no time.

 

[Delmonte421]

do you ever get nervous that the research chemical your using is going to have a negative effect later on after you have used it several times?
How often does a research chemical end up killing a person or giving them a negative effect/impact on there mental state or life like a Parkinson’s or something like that?

 

[Delmonte421]

do you ever get nervous that the research chemical your using is going to have a negative effect later on after you have used it several times?
How often does a research chemical end up killing a person or giving them a negative effect/impact on there mental state or life like a Parkinson’s or something like that?

Kind like being a living science experiment when you take untested research chemicals?

 

[ĐmantuNJofra]

Kind like being a living science experiment when you take untested research chemicals?

well no it is not, like that if you can limit yourself on small doses, and in deschloroketamine des means kchlor is out and fluor in if am not mistaken?

 

[Loquacious]

The second the 2fdck didn’t come in big ass crystals anymore it went to shit, first we got an almost wet batch that had diluted effects and afterwards it just has been meh.

I recenly got a gram of 3-meo-pce , DCK, o-pce and 3-ho-pcp. Mainly Playing around with 3-meo-pce and a bit of 3-ho. The dck feels very lackluster, maybe because ive always had access to really good k. All the other stuff is great.

Mainly interested in its antidepressice effects without getting manic (year ago vaping piles of 3-meo-pcp i experienced all the negatives) I dont want any trainwrecks.

But the dutch market is fucked, I’m on the verge of being fucked because I refuse to pay 5x for shitty taper benzos. I’m at <10 mg diazepam equivalent and basically have no room in my taper anymore and a gp literally refused to help me in any way last year. Dnm bars or other pressies are out of the question since they probably contain clobromazolam or bromaz or ethyl-bromazolam.
When I saw vendors selling blotters for ridiculous prices I knew it was over.

 

[cgdon]

The second the 2fdck didn’t come in big ass crystals anymore it went to shit, first we got an almost wet batch that had diluted effects and afterwards it just has been meh.

I recenly got a gram of 3-meo-pce , DCK, o-pce and 3-ho-pcp. Mainly Playing around with 3-meo-pce and a bit of 3-ho. The dck feels very lackluster, maybe because ive always had access to really good k. All the other stuff is great.

Mainly interested in its antidepressice effects without getting manic (year ago vaping piles of 3-meo-pcp i experienced all the negatives) I dont want any trainwrecks.

But the dutch market is fucked, I’m on the verge of being fucked because I refuse to pay 5x for shitty taper benzos. I’m at <10 mg diazepam equivalent and basically have no room in my taper anymore and a gp literally refused to help me in any way last year. Dnm bars or other pressies are out of the question since they probably contain clobromazolam or bromaz or ethyl-bromazolam.
When I saw vendors selling blotters for ridiculous prices I knew it was over.

stuff gived me horrible abdominal pain so i have bin it. not my cup of tea.

 

[Loquacious]

Which stuff? BTW is there a small benzo revival going on, I saw clobromazolam 2mg was added to a vendors menu. The price also dropped to reasonable levels. Still a ripoff in comparison to the flualp days but I can’t complain to finally try a new benzo.

On topic: what about washing it, can’t remember the name but Dutch vendors recrystallise it together iirc. Looks the same as menthol crystals.

Wonder if the dose makes it unfeasible to vape it. I’ve vaped regular k in a huge globe bong but it was discussing and short-lasting.

I do have high hopes for vaped DCK, seeing its brother o-pce is best consumed that way. It sussed me out how it becomes brown and harsh and then leaves no mark.

I wish DMXE was still around, the first batches of 2f-dck were incredibly psychedelic and as wonky as k. Once needed some help walking to the exit of a festival when it ended due to redosing and having the drip kick in orally. It was sunrise and extremely pretty, the visuals were almost acid-like. I was on 3-fma though, the same dose without a strong stim would’ve been a train wreck.

The quality of every disso besides 2-fdck has been the same quality as 4 years ago. The 3-ho-pcp has visible brown impurities but that’s apparently to be expected. Almost all pcp analogs are nice coarse, uniform crystals with a petrol smell. The o-pce looks like fat shards of meth. The vendor had a huge sale recently.

 

[Chaurus]

I do have high hopes for vaped DCK, seeing its brother o-pce is best consumed that way. It sussed me out how it becomes brown and harsh and then leaves no mark.

I've enjoyed smoking O-PCE, but one of my best O-PCE trips to date was O-PCE dissolved in gasstation coffee aboard (but not driving) a bus.

Smoking in a meth pipe is more immediate and over sooner, but I kept taking more. Also I tasted like smoking a chlorine swimming pool.

I ended up using O-PCE as a(n abdominal) pain killer.

I wish DMXE was still around, the first batches of 2f-dck were incredibly psychedelic and as wonky as k. Once needed some help walking to the exit of a festival when it ended due to redosing and having the drip kick in orally. It was sunrise and extremely pretty, the visuals were almost acid-like. I was on 3-fma though, the same dose without a strong stim would’ve been a train wreck.

3-FMA was nice... once.

The quality of every disso besides 2-fdck has been the same quality as 4 years ago. The 3-ho-pcp has visible brown impurities but that’s apparently to be expected. Almost all pcp analogs are nice coarse, uniform crystals with a petrol smell. The o-pce looks like fat shards of meth. The vendor had a huge sale recently.

My O-PCE is like a lump of sugar (broken off from a cube). I'm not in a hurry to take more, however.

I get bored with dissos eventually.

An NL webshop had various substances which looked like analogues of DMXE, but I have no idea what they were, and also not all RC's I ordered performed to satisfaction. DMXE I never tried.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Hi Dutchie! all good?
I don't know if you've seen this batch of that powder yet? I use 50-60mg every hour or so.
Sometimes I get enormous side effects, and then sometimes I get a ketamine-like feeling.

Me Dutxchie aswell, i would be weiry. I ordered the last time after 1-7, surprised it still was a option. Soon after the benzodiazepinen dissapered, unannounced.
I expected it so it was weird they were not banned atm, but all disso s remained to.
Only the section Phethylamines and related Cathinone s and Fluoridated Amphetamines.
Was banned at this point.

My vendor announced the re-start was done by a other business.
Probably in hand of Criminal s, the investigation concluded 33 % or 50 % was already in hands of the underground criminal drug-scene. They visited lab s making both RC s and illegal drugs: MDMA and Speed. I advise to be weiry.

Maybe wait till this has settled, i can t understand why the disso s could be legal.
But Benzo s not ain t add up, i expect their will be more development s.

Most worried i am the fact a lot of RC s company at least 33 % were owned by Criminal s. I expect disso s will follow benzo s and just slip of the map.
We will see, this was against expert advise the opposition had as leverage to re visit the whole RC scenario. And let it envelop in something benefiting the people.

And provide a safety net for people to enable a safer drug market.
They lost from lies unproven fact s, pressure from inter-national side.
US/ Canada s/ UK too atm global Fentanyl/ -Nitazens nightmare.

Thread carefully, i haven t ordered from the new RC scene, my last order.
Stemming after 1-7 was handled by the former, wash out period.
The new owner i wouldn t trust with my kid s, in other word s i wouldn t let em keep em a eye on my offspring. Let alone think my health is of their concern.
it isn t its a money game from now. Let s hope its a step back and we will progres from now on. Got a hard head on it though. This kinda people are not to be trusted.

that was clear after 1 e chamber member of the Animal Party. A party in NL that actually does old skool politic s like i learned on school.
the called it democrats back then. That died that day !

DemoCrazy is what survived ! Watch each other back and test !

They should be called The party Animals instead of the Animal Party.
They got my vote these last year s, Party Animal