I know there's a lot of people longing for GHB so I thought I'd share.
I was a heavy user of GHB (GBL actually) myself, and was left kinda depressed and anxious when the source dried.
I ordered 180g of phenibut from one of the cheap internet stores and, well, it possessed some of the GHB properties, but with much less pro-sexual and pro-euphoric action and with a lot more jitteriness. I also suspect it was kinda hard on the liver, since it possesses a phenyl group, which has to be metabolized this way or another.
So I wasn't very sad when I ran out of phenibut.
Then my attention was drawn to baclofen, which is a chloroderivative of phenibut (it is a 3-parachloro-phenylo-gammaaminobutyric acid). It was introduced some 30 years ago as a peripheral musle relaxant, but it deffinitely possesses central action. What's more interesting is perhaps the fact that this chemical is easily obtainable in many countries, and usually cheap [snip]
On to the experience.
I have a high GHB/benzodiazepine/alcohol tolerance, so most users may find lower doses sufficent.
50mg - produces a nice pleasant, barely noticeable relaxation and warmth, but after a while increased social attention is apparent.
100mg - sexual effects and silliness start kicking in, not as crazy as with GHB, but you can find yourself driving 180kph down the road, listening to the radio at full volume, wondering about homosexual relationships, just whatever seems dumb enough to not try it sober
150mg - the high is heightened to the point of intoxication, one may experience blackouts similar to those of GHB, it is possible to fall asleep standing. I've had success keeping my reflexes intact when focused, but relaxation quickly turns into heavy snoring.
Overall, GHB is more a party drug, but then baclofen, perhaps mixed with alcohol, is a definite close second on my list. It also seems to have the ability of smoothing and leveling psychedelic-indiced jitteriness. To the point where I again consider taking LSD, which I haven't for quite a while.
It would have been better to have GHB at hand, but since I don't, I can very well live in the baclofen-induced state of mind. Tolerance seems to develop and then settle at a certain level, similarly to that of GHB.
Damn, I actually feel at home again. Everyday activities seem comprehensible once again, I have plans for the future, I finally feel the effects of antidepressants, you get the idea.
Hope this helps.
I was a heavy user of GHB (GBL actually) myself, and was left kinda depressed and anxious when the source dried.
I ordered 180g of phenibut from one of the cheap internet stores and, well, it possessed some of the GHB properties, but with much less pro-sexual and pro-euphoric action and with a lot more jitteriness. I also suspect it was kinda hard on the liver, since it possesses a phenyl group, which has to be metabolized this way or another.
So I wasn't very sad when I ran out of phenibut.
Then my attention was drawn to baclofen, which is a chloroderivative of phenibut (it is a 3-parachloro-phenylo-gammaaminobutyric acid). It was introduced some 30 years ago as a peripheral musle relaxant, but it deffinitely possesses central action. What's more interesting is perhaps the fact that this chemical is easily obtainable in many countries, and usually cheap [snip]
On to the experience.
I have a high GHB/benzodiazepine/alcohol tolerance, so most users may find lower doses sufficent.
50mg - produces a nice pleasant, barely noticeable relaxation and warmth, but after a while increased social attention is apparent.
100mg - sexual effects and silliness start kicking in, not as crazy as with GHB, but you can find yourself driving 180kph down the road, listening to the radio at full volume, wondering about homosexual relationships, just whatever seems dumb enough to not try it sober
150mg - the high is heightened to the point of intoxication, one may experience blackouts similar to those of GHB, it is possible to fall asleep standing. I've had success keeping my reflexes intact when focused, but relaxation quickly turns into heavy snoring.
Overall, GHB is more a party drug, but then baclofen, perhaps mixed with alcohol, is a definite close second on my list. It also seems to have the ability of smoothing and leveling psychedelic-indiced jitteriness. To the point where I again consider taking LSD, which I haven't for quite a while.
It would have been better to have GHB at hand, but since I don't, I can very well live in the baclofen-induced state of mind. Tolerance seems to develop and then settle at a certain level, similarly to that of GHB.
Damn, I actually feel at home again. Everyday activities seem comprehensible once again, I have plans for the future, I finally feel the effects of antidepressants, you get the idea.
Hope this helps.
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