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Back from detox

MindOverMethadone said:
Wait, they gave you a benzo to get off another benzo? Lmao. Ativan is a lot shorter acting than the Kpins so I understand that, but it still doesn't make sense to me. Someone clarify for me?
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They use benzos to taper people off other benzos all the time. But they use longer acting benzos usually diazepam to taper people off shorter acting benzos. Ive never heard of someone using a benzo with a shorter half life such as lorazepam to taper off a benzo with a longer half life such as clonazepam though.
 
Yeah I know, that's kind of weird. I would stay on the kpins until the acute symptoms were over and just quit. But eh, I guess it's the doctors orders aye?
 
Yes i have to be totally clean . that is what my A.a. friend says
he says klonopin is the same as getting high even if taken as prescribed
 
First I want to say: CONGRATUFUCKINGLATIONS!!
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If anyone on this forum deserves to be clean right now its you for the amount of shit you put yourself through at the end of your addiction.

You also shouldn't be taking yourself lightly right now and we are absolutely celebrating soon (w/out opiates or benzos of course). And what I mean by not taking yourself lightly is you shouldn't treat this like "ah no big deal that I got clean". Be PROUD, feel proud, because everyone is proud for you.

Second, if you are ever having a tough time you know my number bro. I know you're doing the NA thing but sometimes its easy for us addicts to lie and hide shit from people and before we know it we're back at square 1. Call me at 4am in the morning, call me to tell me some girl on the road looked at you the wrong way and now you want to use. Call me for ANY MUNDANE STUPID SHIT that may be going on in your life. Do not try to act tough or strong and do not worry about wtf I am thinking. Addicts are professionals at hiding their problems and that definitely doesn't help keep them away from drugs.

Third. I am seriously confused about why you hid this from me. I even asked where you had been (not last time we talked but the conversation before that) and you told me you were taking care of someone. We even talked about where your use was at and you totally deflected the question. I'm not sure if you were trying to surpise me, or testing me to see where I was encase you thought I'd be a bad influence or something.. but I'm definitely confused about that. I even got the impression you were clean because you sounded "different". Its hard to explain what was different but you just sounded more sure of yourself/confident.

Anyway we need to have a serious conversation about the details and how recovery is going so far. If you EVER get the temptation to use, just please stay the fuck away from opiates and benzos... and coke too lol. Smoke a j if you must just let your opiate receptors get back to normal so you can start experiencing happiness again. That shit is played out anyway and you know that. Its not fun, we can never have enough and we're always thinking about how to get more when we just had more. You are finally free man, and you have no idea how happy I am for you. =D
 
Thanks Bo , I thought i had already told you or you saw on the last thread that i was going to detox! I wasnt trying to hide nothin! So yeah call me up man , we gotta hang one day ...............oh and i made another thread in D.C> abuot crappy dealers so if u read that it sounds like im still using but i just made it because these dealers keep calling me trying to sell me D and they have crappy product so was curious how many ppl tell the dealer their product sucks (now i just ignore their calls anyway ) so yeah im doin ok , im bored and lonely , but i dont have to be gettin high , just need ta get a job ASAP .
anyway talk to ya soon bro
thanks
 
you should save yourself the trouble and change your phone number.. if your anything like me one day you will be feeling down and out and the phone will ring and it will seem entirely reasonable to get fucked up.
 
Fucking awesome man! so happy for you,, was so hoping I'd see a post from you saying this!

Good work, keep it up! I'm a member of NA too, it really is a great fellowship!

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P.S. just a bit of advice, in my experience hanging out in the DC section of the forum was unhealthy for my recovery, very triggering, so just be careful is all
 
i hear u . i shouldnt be making threads about dealers n stuff. i guess part of me still wants to romanticize it when i know all it leads to is jail death n institutions
 
yea i just saw in news that in camden right by one of the spots a guy was shot...............funny my boy told me there was some guy there trying to hustle his own stamp so i wonder if the guys running the spot tried to take him out
 
/\ Wouldn't suprise me. I use to cop in both newark and asbury a long time ago. That type of shit seemed to go down at least once a month. I think first time I ever went to cop in newark I was 16(long time ago) and my friend had handed a dealer a 20 folded up with singles on the inside. Although it was meant to look like $80 which is did at first glance.
My friend (at 16 also) coerced the dealer into dropping the rocks (crack) into his palm, handed him the $24 dollars (as 80) then peeled off. This was the way my "newark venturing cherry" was popped. The dealer immediately noticed, and started chasing us the second he put his foot on the gas. He kicked and punched the door so hard he put a dent in the drivers side door (my side lol).
As we turn onto the main street, we had to make another right and come back down a road that ran parallel to the road we just peeled out of. As we are driving down the road this dealer had ran through the peoples backyards and popped out about 20 yards down the road in the middle of the road we were driving on. I thought it was like some shit out of a movie. My friend, (who also became a rat in later years and reason I went to prison) with balls as hard as stones, steps on the gas and floors it directly at the dealer. The dealer saw him coming at him, ran to the side of the road and picked up a piece of cement winging it at the car missing any windows but putting another larger dent in the car.

When we finally got home I told him if he ever did some shit like that again I'd kill him myself. I had no idea he was about to do that shit and I kept thinking after that "if that dealer only had a gun we'd absolutely be dead today". Not to hijack the thread but damn to I have stories about driving into newark/asbury. Once I got out of prison though I swore to never go back, and never did. Too old to be running from dealers and that shit is definitely not fun by any means.
 
i think its silly the guardian angels are out in camden so everyone is buggin out there . my friend said all the dealers are scared of them lol
 
Congrats man, I don't think I could quit opiates tbh, unless they started becoming a major problem for me, I just love the buzz too much, but it's only a matter of time I guess. Congrats anyway on putting your life back on track.
 
i loved it too but became not worth risk of gettin locked up and wakin up sick every day , i heard from my boy as soon as angels got to camden that some sets shut down and others were very wary of everyone , thinkin angels are watching , and sending cops to cop off them
 
man I'm glad to hear shit is solid for you jake - keep your head up man. Keep as busy as possible, get any form of exercise - PAWs are a BITCH.
 
i know man its not easy but im tryin to stay busy , meetings gym job hunting................
 
Congratulations, jake! :) I'll echo what others have said, about this being long overdue. Keep it up, keep up the progress. And stay around TDS and away from places like DC or OD, which are triggering and will revive the addict in you on darker nights. This forum's much more comforting, and you've got plenty of folks around here who won't hesitate to be a positive influence on you if you need it.

villian said:
you should save yourself the trouble and change your phone number.. if your anything like me one day you will be feeling down and out and the phone will ring and it will seem entirely reasonable to get fucked up.
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Take this advice. Seriously, change that number sooner than later. You want those numbers out of your phone for villian's reason and for the fact that you can claim a phone with clean(er) numbers in it. Get it changed - it will be a great decision for you in the long run!

OverDone said:
ha! I find it funny that someone believes that the corner boys are afraid of the Angels. Thats absurd!
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Haha, +1 to that.
 
Jake I'm glad somthing good happened for you. Being clean is a great gift. Your life is going to be amazing! I would change your phone # though and leave those people in the past.
 
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